gangs,, since the beginning of time

they are like civilian armies,, protecting their form of governing and their territory


without 'legal' authority to do so,,,no doubt they will be prosecuted,,,,,,as they should be,,,

great, lets stop teaching boys to be athletic or girls to be ladies or that education is important or that we should try to be 'healthy'

these traditions keep being passed down and used abusively by many too,,,,,

abuse is not about belief

abuse is : improper or excessive use or treatment

there is a list too long to mention of things that can be improperly used or excessively used

people use EXCESSIVE focus on sports abusively to villify their children, they use EXCESSIVE focus on academics to villify their children, they use EXCESSIVE focus on appearance and beauty to villify their children

but , as I said before, the abuse starts with the PERSON, not with their tool of choice,,,

so who has the expertise or authority to determine that reigious beliefs are 'wrong'?


children are to be guided in the right direction, and that is each parents perogative to decide what that direction is,,,,,


sometimes not only children are gullible, sometimes children grow into adults who have been brainwashed to think if it makes you 'unhappy' or doesnt let you do WHATVER happens to make you happy,,,,its wrong

First point: The question assumes 'religion' is one distinct, easily definable principle , which is false, religions have many many different principles within them which are taught in many many different manners


Second point: The federal government defines child abuse as
Any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation"; or


"An act or failure to act which presents an imminent risk of serious harm."



I was brought up with religion. It did not kill me, physically harm me, emotionally harm me, sexually abuse me, or exploit me or put me at SERIOUS Risk of harm. So I guess there can probably not be an honest YES or NO answer to whether it is child abuse, because I know of MANY MANY other people like me for which religion has done none of these things.


so I come to the third point

RELIGION is not child abuse, although people can be ABUSIVE in how they choose to teach it to children. In many of the scenarios listed here, the issue is the ABUSIVE manner in which the child is supposedly introduced or 'indoctrinated' into the religion, it is not the religion itself.


For instance, as a child, I was at a certain developmental stage. Parents often give children stories to develop their imaginations and their sense of lifes possibilities,, at this stage. Some parents may be upset if their child does not adhere and they may disown them ,,like the parent who threatens to not give a christmas gift because a kid says santa isnt real, or a parent who 'disowns' a child for merely 'disbelieving' in some tradition when they get older (disbelief and disrespect are different things though...)

,and that would be abusive. OTher parents (mine, for instance) provide the resource and the information and let the children get from it what they can, which is NOT Abusive at all.

My siblings and myself ALL grew up with religion. OF the five of us, only two of us grew into adulthood with a strong belief in God or the Bible. The other three would probably be considered agnostic.

My parents exposed us to as many DIFFERENT cultures/philosophies as possible when we were children so we could use the brain they gave us to use them towards our own emotional and intellectual benefit.

,,short answer,,

Is teaching religion to children abusive? .....NO

Do abusive parents teach religion to their children with abusive methods?,,,SURE

If it is not needed to be told, then why do they teach this to our children in early school? If they already know, then why tell them? And do you think children truly know this when they are born?

EVERYONE does not pay attention to the news.

If you askeed 20 random people about the case right now, plenty of them would say they 'heard about it', some of them would not and off those that heard about it, few would care or have read it for themself.

So being in a jury where they would get FACTS, would make it more than reasonable for them to be able to be FAIR in their ruling.

....that drive a man crazy:

1. Game-playing/manufacturing drama.

(I'm tired of dudes saying its always us. When you bring your exes into the picture I'd say that treads the line to drama. Just one example.)

2. Expecting the man to pay for everything.

(I always offer if I can, especially if its past the first few dates)

3. “Wanting to know ‘where the relationship is going’ before he’s ready to say, or before he knows himself”

(Most men haven't a clue what they want anyway. They'll never admit it unless we finally make a decision.)

4. Being controlling.

(Men are super controlling when they never call.)

5. Not getting enough “guy time.”

(Most ladies here can put up with mind-numbing sports activities.)

thats different than the first quote,,lol

and its accurate,, 'it' (whatever that referred to), wasnt 'done'(whatever THAT referred to) in three years

and its being used to suggest he should only have one term,,,,

yeah, thats why he has won NUMEROUS film awards, because he cant direct a movie,,,,