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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. Not accoding to his voting history, or the fact that h does his job without pay. How corrupt is that?? WHAT JOB does he do without pay 
How many doctors do you know of in this century that delivered babies without recompense even occassionally. he could not make a living if he did that. What I think you are referring to is he did not charge those with federal insurance because he refused federal money, which is also admirable. HE still received money though, from the patients who could pay or had private insurance. True, and he never refused a patient due to their inability to pay as well. sounds like a great doctor, maybe a field he should remain in,,, |
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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. to be fair, he doesnt seem to have held much more power than OBama since in 22 years, Paul sponsored 620 bills and got ONE signed into law,,,thats a rate of about 28 bills per year and a .04 percent success rate comparing to OBama who sponsored 121 bills as senator from 2005-2008 and had only 3 passed into law,,,thats a rate of about 40 bills per year and a 2 percent success rate neither one are/were bigshots in terms of political power before they ran RP's bills never get passed because they are all against big government, for the people, and usually a repeal or amendment to something that has already been passed that he felt overstepped its constitutional limits. Of course his bills never get passed. They call him "Dr No" because he votes against all the bills he feels are unconstitutional.... that should tell you something about our lawmakers in DC. maybe that they wouldnt follow Ron Paul,,,,at least that could be one take on it similar to one take on Obamas presidency,,, if they didnt agree with him on anything THEN, why would they work with him NOW and if thats the case, would we have four years of the constant stalling that we have seen with Obama and his not so diplomatic or cooperative congressional colleagues? |
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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. Not accoding to his voting history, or the fact that h does his job without pay. How corrupt is that?? WHAT JOB does he do without pay
How many doctors do you know of in this century that delivered babies without recompense even occassionally. he could not make a living if he did that. What I think you are referring to is he did not charge those with federal insurance because he refused federal money, which is also admirable. HE still received money though, from the patients who could pay or had private insurance. |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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When you think about large and small and infinity... and the possibilities, how do we know there is no creator? Good question, very good question. I don't know if there is no creator, and I don't know if there is a creator. I just beleive there is no creator. I won't argue with those who believe there is a creator. Their claim I can't touch. It's a matter of faith. What you asked was right. Small and large infinities give us no indication if a creator exists and is responsible for the world. A few things we can know, however, if we assume the creator exists. For instance, we know the creator is not perfect. We know that because we also know that perfection can't produce imperfection (and Spider said that is so, he supported this with saying that the world was perfect after creation was finished); and also because we know that the world is not perfect now. So the creator was not perfect, and the bible's teaching that the world was just exactly perfect at the time of creation is a necessarily false claim. If it was perfect, it could not have lost its perfection. What does being "perfect" have to do with being a creator??? Perfection and imperfection seems to me is a matter of opinion. What does a person know about judging what is perfect or imperfect? It seems to me that this universe and its laws is perfect enough to evolve into intelligent life. You claim that perfection cannot create imperfection, right? Then how would something unconscious become conscious? How could something non-intelligent evolve into many different intelligent life forms? Why does everyone insist that a creator has to be perfect? That's ridiculous. And what is "perfect" anyway? We evolved didn't we? We became self aware didn't we? We live don't we? The laws of cause and effect work pretty damn good don't they? Who in the world do we think we are to criticize this universe? Could we create such a thing that evolves and grows life and becomes self aware and intelligent? There has to be some intelligence somewhere from whence we came if we claim to be intelligent at all. doesn't the bible say he's perfect? yes, he is Godly perfect, a different standard then human perfect we are to be perfect even as God is perfect, is a comparative statement saying we are to be like God,, not that He is supposed to be like us.... that sounds like double talk... there is only one definition of perfect, not 2 or 3.... human perfect, god perfect, someone just made that up just to rationalize why god is not perfect... really? the english language is pretty complex... http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfect and IM sure, in biblical times, there may have even been a different human standard of perfect than the above so, there is more than one definition of perfect, and the use of the word AS, implies a specific type of perfect to which we are to strive no, the word didn't exist in biblical times... the link says it's first known use was in the 14th century... so, ok god isn't perfect, still means very little to me..lol yes, this particular word was used in fourteenth century, just like 'jiggy' was used in the last fifty years,, but its synonymous with words used before then,,,,, just as the word used in the bible has the same interpretation as the word PERFECT,,, but its ok if it means little to you, thats your perogative for certain |
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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. to be fair, he doesnt seem to have held much more power than OBama since in 22 years, Paul sponsored 620 bills and got ONE signed into law,,,thats a rate of about 28 bills per year and a .04 percent success rate comparing to OBama who sponsored 121 bills as senator from 2005-2008 and had only 3 passed into law,,,thats a rate of about 40 bills per year and a 2 percent success rate neither one are/were bigshots in terms of political power before they ran |
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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. Not accoding to his voting history, or the fact that h does his job without pay. How corrupt is that?? WHAT JOB does he do without pay
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As far as I can tell, the first amendment gives no freedom to disrupt so if the 347 bill is basically aimed at those who are engaged in a disruptive behavior with their MOUTHS,,,I dont see it as a threat its kind of like 'you cant yell fire in a crowded theater', except its 'you cant be disruptive in a restricted or official area where government or the president is operating or present' |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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yes, he is Godly perfect, a different standard then human perfect
we are to be perfect even as God is perfect, is a comparative statement saying we are to be like God,, not that He is supposed to be like us.... Is that your opinion? What does "godly perfect" mean? P.S. We are like god according to the Bible. "Let us make man in our image." So said the Elohim. yes, its my opinion also, in my opinion, manly perfection usually implies a standard in which people have none of the things man considers 'faults' or 'defects' in fact, that is one standard definition of the word a : being entirely without fault or defect but what man considers a fault or defect is subjective to mans judgment so a Godly perfect has more to do with Gods judgment than mans,,,, |
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Creation vs. Evolution.
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When you think about large and small and infinity... and the possibilities, how do we know there is no creator? Good question, very good question. I don't know if there is no creator, and I don't know if there is a creator. I just beleive there is no creator. I won't argue with those who believe there is a creator. Their claim I can't touch. It's a matter of faith. What you asked was right. Small and large infinities give us no indication if a creator exists and is responsible for the world. A few things we can know, however, if we assume the creator exists. For instance, we know the creator is not perfect. We know that because we also know that perfection can't produce imperfection (and Spider said that is so, he supported this with saying that the world was perfect after creation was finished); and also because we know that the world is not perfect now. So the creator was not perfect, and the bible's teaching that the world was just exactly perfect at the time of creation is a necessarily false claim. If it was perfect, it could not have lost its perfection. What does being "perfect" have to do with being a creator??? Perfection and imperfection seems to me is a matter of opinion. What does a person know about judging what is perfect or imperfect? It seems to me that this universe and its laws is perfect enough to evolve into intelligent life. You claim that perfection cannot create imperfection, right? Then how would something unconscious become conscious? How could something non-intelligent evolve into many different intelligent life forms? Why does everyone insist that a creator has to be perfect? That's ridiculous. And what is "perfect" anyway? We evolved didn't we? We became self aware didn't we? We live don't we? The laws of cause and effect work pretty damn good don't they? Who in the world do we think we are to criticize this universe? Could we create such a thing that evolves and grows life and becomes self aware and intelligent? There has to be some intelligence somewhere from whence we came if we claim to be intelligent at all. doesn't the bible say he's perfect? yes, he is Godly perfect, a different standard then human perfect we are to be perfect even as God is perfect, is a comparative statement saying we are to be like God,, not that He is supposed to be like us.... that sounds like double talk... there is only one definition of perfect, not 2 or 3.... human perfect, god perfect, someone just made that up just to rationalize why god is not perfect... really? the english language is pretty complex... http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfect and IM sure, in biblical times, there may have even been a different human standard of perfect than the above so, there is more than one definition of perfect, and the use of the word AS, implies a specific type of perfect to which we are to strive |
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our heart/compassion often overrules our intelligence/logic
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princesses take note
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When i see someone describing themselves as a princess... this is what i think... Princesses want to live in castles, which are expensive to buy, to heat, lots of security expenses, drawbridge maintenance, drafty, someone is always wanting to set seige to the place.... ect. ect. lol thats one view another is that princesses come from a king and queen, they are treated with a certain dignity and respect and when they arent there is hell to pay with the king and queen ..sounds good to me,,,lol |
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? A US Citizen,,lol prior to now, voters commonly didnt know what the candidate 'stood for' and voted on their looks, their image, their perceived personal virtue,,etc,,,, prior to now? how did the bushes get elected then? i think you meant "as of now", beginning with obamma. a black man that speaks good...and in an election where just about anyone that was democrat coulda won. seriously? Bush got elected with money and 'family values' speech that was his 'image' , and what put him in front, just as much if not more than what he actually 'stood for' politically and OBama is a black man who speaks WELL,,,,as was Jesse Jackson , shirley chisholm, and Alan Keyes,,,,who didnt even get the nomination so I guess, if we overlook the need to win the nomination, we can believe that Obama won 'just because' he is black but if we take into consideration the significance of being nominated in the first place , we have to consider it was more than his color that won him the race,,,, it was because he is a black muslim that speaks well. you know as well as i do that any democrat was going to win that election, no matter what color. the powers behind the presidency decided thats who they wanted, not the american people. thats a contradictory statement was it because he was a black 'muslim' who speaks well OR was it merely because ANY democrat was going to win? you lost me there... you saying doesn't speak well? nope IM saying if any democrat could have won than the reason for him winning would merely be he was the democrat of choice if he won because of race or speaking ability, than another democrate without those qualities may not have won, meaning merely being a democrat couldnt be the reason for winning,,, so admit this? his policies had not much to do with it? i can't even remember any other dems that was trying to be president then... democrats were going to win, him being black and muslim and a good speaker was what the powers that be wanted... I Cant speak for everyone. I think the reasons for this President being elected were consistently as diverse as they have ever been. Some voted based on his policy, some on his image, some on his background,,,etc,,, Hilary Clinton ran for the election too, and it was assumed a large percentage of women would vote for her When Bush ran the first time, it was assumed a large portion of the bible belt would vote for him, others voted cause they just didnt like Gore IMAGE has played a huge factor in americas choices since the television was invented and even moreso now with technology spoiling us to a constant connection with everyone elses most personal business... at the time, i liked gore better, but then he turned into a joke, just like kerry did... actually, kerry was always a joke... I liked Gore better too,, but he was too 'boring' for the voting public,,,, |
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? A US Citizen,,lol prior to now, voters commonly didnt know what the candidate 'stood for' and voted on their looks, their image, their perceived personal virtue,,etc,,,, prior to now? how did the bushes get elected then? i think you meant "as of now", beginning with obamma. a black man that speaks good...and in an election where just about anyone that was democrat coulda won. seriously? Bush got elected with money and 'family values' speech that was his 'image' , and what put him in front, just as much if not more than what he actually 'stood for' politically and OBama is a black man who speaks WELL,,,,as was Jesse Jackson , shirley chisholm, and Alan Keyes,,,,who didnt even get the nomination so I guess, if we overlook the need to win the nomination, we can believe that Obama won 'just because' he is black but if we take into consideration the significance of being nominated in the first place , we have to consider it was more than his color that won him the race,,,, it was because he is a black muslim that speaks well. you know as well as i do that any democrat was going to win that election, no matter what color. the powers behind the presidency decided thats who they wanted, not the american people. thats a contradictory statement was it because he was a black 'muslim' who speaks well OR was it merely because ANY democrat was going to win? you lost me there... you saying doesn't speak well? nope IM saying if any democrat could have won than the reason for him winning would merely be he was the democrat of choice if he won because of race or speaking ability, than another democrate without those qualities may not have won, meaning merely being a democrat couldnt be the reason for winning,,, so admit this? his policies had not much to do with it? i can't even remember any other dems that was trying to be president then... democrats were going to win, him being black and muslim and a good speaker was what the powers that be wanted... I Cant speak for everyone. I think the reasons for this President being elected were consistently as diverse as they have ever been. Some voted based on his policy, some on his image, some on his background,,,etc,,, Hilary Clinton ran for the election too, and it was assumed a large percentage of women would vote for her When Bush ran the first time, it was assumed a large portion of the bible belt would vote for him, others voted cause they just didnt like Gore IMAGE has played a huge factor in americas choices since the television was invented and even moreso now with technology spoiling us to a constant connection with everyone elses most personal business... |
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? A US Citizen,,lol prior to now, voters commonly didnt know what the candidate 'stood for' and voted on their looks, their image, their perceived personal virtue,,etc,,,, prior to now? how did the bushes get elected then? i think you meant "as of now", beginning with obamma. a black man that speaks good...and in an election where just about anyone that was democrat coulda won. seriously? Bush got elected with money and 'family values' speech that was his 'image' , and what put him in front, just as much if not more than what he actually 'stood for' politically and OBama is a black man who speaks WELL,,,,as was Jesse Jackson , shirley chisholm, and Alan Keyes,,,,who didnt even get the nomination so I guess, if we overlook the need to win the nomination, we can believe that Obama won 'just because' he is black but if we take into consideration the significance of being nominated in the first place , we have to consider it was more than his color that won him the race,,,, it was because he is a black muslim that speaks well. you know as well as i do that any democrat was going to win that election, no matter what color. the powers behind the presidency decided thats who they wanted, not the american people. thats a contradictory statement was it because he was a black 'muslim' who speaks well OR was it merely because ANY democrat was going to win? you lost me there... you saying doesn't speak well? nope IM saying if any democrat could have won than the reason for him winning would merely be he was the democrat of choice if he won because of race or speaking ability, than another democrate without those qualities may not have won, meaning merely being a democrat couldnt be the reason for winning,,, |
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The Doonesbury Comic Strip Republicans Don’t Want You To See: The Friday Edition March 16, 2012 By Stephen D. Foster Jr. In Thursday’s edition of Doonesbury, the state sanctioned rape of a woman seeking an abortion commenced on behalf of the GOP base. The doctor used a 10 inch “shaming wand” to perform a transvaginal ultrasound in an attempt to humiliate the poor woman into deciding against having an abortion. Today, the story continues. Addicting Info has faithfully carried the Doonesbury abortion comic strip all week long. Why? Because many newspapers have decided that censoring this topic is a good way to keep people ignorant of what Republicans are doing to women’s rights. These so-called “news” organizations have failed to keep their readers informed because they would rather bow down to conservative demands. We here at AI reject such censorship and will continue to bring you the Doonesbury comic strip as long as this abortion segment continues. Republicans have declared war on women and everyone has the right to know exactly how the GOP is waging that war. To that end, Garry Trudeau decided to include the war in Doonesbury. Today’s segment deals with the aftermath of the invasive ultrasound. The woman’s doctor tell her that she is now required to have an intimate with the fetus and that he must describe the fetus to her in detail. He goes on to describe the fetal features as nothing more than mere specks. In other words, a clump of cells that is not a person. The woman then takes a shot at Rick Perry. Check out the Friday strip along with all the others you may or may not have missed this week below. Monday: Tuesday: Wednesday: Thursday: Friday: Republicans don’t want anyone to see this strip because they know it will draw the ire of much of the country. Women represent just over half of the national population, yet they are having virtually no say in what middle aged white male conservatives decide about their sex lives and medical privacy. It’s wrong and shouldn’t be tolerated. The only people who should be able to decide what is best for women’s bodies is women. Republicans have completely obliterated their claim of being the party that stands for small government the stays out of our lives. They’ve decided that small government should violate our privacy, force us to get medical procedures against our will and dictate what we do in our private lives with others. If that is their new definition of small government, I want no part of it. To combat this war on women and Republican censorship, please be sure to spread the word and share this with everyone you know. Women are counting on us to stand with them and their rights. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/16/the-doonesbury-comic-strip-republicans-dont-want-you-to-see-the-friday-edition/ I am so glad there are men like Justin on this planet. Ladies, we are under attack. First off it was a decision made by various papers not to run it, 2nd only stupid people read doonesberry or whatever it is. Im not stupid. I like doonesbury. Like most cartoons it uses satire to make a point. I dont always agree with the point, like this one. By definition, if the procedure is truly rape or being victimized all over,, so is the abortion itself, because they are both invasive. so the victimization is imminent regardless of the choice,,, |
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personaly I think things are improveing was at Red Lobster last night place was packed. My Gf and I even had a conversation along the lines of that when we noticed how many people were out eating at the high end restaraunt. Granted many people are not doing well but many are. I suspect the riseing gas prices will dampen the recovery being a depression or recession will be the only chance the republicans have to haveing any political relevence. The oil industry has traditionly been republican dominated and you do not have to be a aluminum foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist to blame the right wing for the riseing gas prices. That and all the chickenhawk war talk over Iran. The biggest mistake anyone can make is to vote republican and then complain when the economy goes down the tubes after all we did cut taxes to stimulate the economy as prescribed by the neocons and those tax cuts remain largely in effect all we have are reduced services to those in need and a huge defecit. Lets be intelectualy honest for a change every time we elect republicans to office the rich get richer and the common folks get poorer and it takes a two term democrat to turn it around. obama isnt perfect but ya know what he is far better than the Mcain/Palin he ran against and he is far better than any of the clowns the republicans are running. Ummmm, Red Lobster is not a high end Restaurant......It is the McDonald's of Seafood actually!!! Obama is setting up another depression by instituting a healthcare plan paid for by the government right now sinking this country further into debt for the future.......every added socialistic program sets this country up for a bigger fall with the false economy bubble he is making right now!!! yea, obamacare is designed to make everyone a hypochondriac, by giving everyone a free pass to go to the emergency room for colds and things of that nature. it will break the government, no matter what kind of price we have to pay. there will be no free pass people are already assured treatment in the emergency room and cant be turned away this bill doesnt change emergency room procedures, this bill ensures that the most EXTREME of circumstances doesnt keep people from care it doesnt do anything to increase or decrease the incidence of hypochondriacs who wish to see doctors for their symptoms,,, no, the difference is now the government pays the 1000-10000's of dollars the hospitals charge. multiply that by 250 million and what do you have? wrong again, there are according to most estimates 50 million who dont have insurance now of those fifty million, some will opt to purchase insurance with the new bill, like so many opted to do when vehicle insurance became a mandate of those who are left, (unknown number, but less than 50 mill), there will be an exchange which offers insurance coverage, still from private insurers who will be able to offer lower rates because they would be in a larger 'risk pool' its not about the government paying for hundreds of millions of patients at all,,, its just about getting insurance for the uninsured,,,,and at more affordable rates for those who in the past couldnt afford it no, thats not what it's about, it's about money, and nothing else. i know you can't understand that, because you are an obama cheerleader, but he and congress are not doing anything for the people as the MIC tells you, it's about money and kickbacks from the healthcare industry. the health care industry is the biggest moneymaker in the world right now, and they are the ones backing barry on this, and giving him his kickbacks. how sad that you think that all this is for the people, when nothing they ever do is for the people. actually, I dont feel 'sad' at all. I feel quite happy,,, how about you? no. you misread what i said... i didn't say you are sad, i said "how sad"... it's not your fault you can't see the forest for the trees... well, some people have lived in the forest, and others have watched it on tv and believe they are therefore experts,,,, seems we are all in the same boat, making ASSUMPTIONS Based upon our perceptions,,,,,and keeping the debates alive,,,, |
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? A US Citizen,,lol prior to now, voters commonly didnt know what the candidate 'stood for' and voted on their looks, their image, their perceived personal virtue,,etc,,,, prior to now? how did the bushes get elected then? i think you meant "as of now", beginning with obamma. a black man that speaks good...and in an election where just about anyone that was democrat coulda won. seriously? Bush got elected with money and 'family values' speech that was his 'image' , and what put him in front, just as much if not more than what he actually 'stood for' politically and OBama is a black man who speaks WELL,,,,as was Jesse Jackson , shirley chisholm, and Alan Keyes,,,,who didnt even get the nomination so I guess, if we overlook the need to win the nomination, we can believe that Obama won 'just because' he is black but if we take into consideration the significance of being nominated in the first place , we have to consider it was more than his color that won him the race,,,, it was because he is a black muslim that speaks well. you know as well as i do that any democrat was going to win that election, no matter what color. the powers behind the presidency decided thats who they wanted, not the american people. thats a contradictory statement was it because he was a black 'muslim' who speaks well OR was it merely because ANY democrat was going to win? |
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personaly I think things are improveing was at Red Lobster last night place was packed. My Gf and I even had a conversation along the lines of that when we noticed how many people were out eating at the high end restaraunt. Granted many people are not doing well but many are. I suspect the riseing gas prices will dampen the recovery being a depression or recession will be the only chance the republicans have to haveing any political relevence. The oil industry has traditionly been republican dominated and you do not have to be a aluminum foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist to blame the right wing for the riseing gas prices. That and all the chickenhawk war talk over Iran. The biggest mistake anyone can make is to vote republican and then complain when the economy goes down the tubes after all we did cut taxes to stimulate the economy as prescribed by the neocons and those tax cuts remain largely in effect all we have are reduced services to those in need and a huge defecit. Lets be intelectualy honest for a change every time we elect republicans to office the rich get richer and the common folks get poorer and it takes a two term democrat to turn it around. obama isnt perfect but ya know what he is far better than the Mcain/Palin he ran against and he is far better than any of the clowns the republicans are running. Ummmm, Red Lobster is not a high end Restaurant......It is the McDonald's of Seafood actually!!! Obama is setting up another depression by instituting a healthcare plan paid for by the government right now sinking this country further into debt for the future.......every added socialistic program sets this country up for a bigger fall with the false economy bubble he is making right now!!! yea, obamacare is designed to make everyone a hypochondriac, by giving everyone a free pass to go to the emergency room for colds and things of that nature. it will break the government, no matter what kind of price we have to pay. there will be no free pass people are already assured treatment in the emergency room and cant be turned away this bill doesnt change emergency room procedures, this bill ensures that the most EXTREME of circumstances doesnt keep people from care it doesnt do anything to increase or decrease the incidence of hypochondriacs who wish to see doctors for their symptoms,,, no, the difference is now the government pays the 1000-10000's of dollars the hospitals charge. multiply that by 250 million and what do you have? wrong again, there are according to most estimates 50 million who dont have insurance now of those fifty million, some will opt to purchase insurance with the new bill, like so many opted to do when vehicle insurance became a mandate of those who are left, (unknown number, but less than 50 mill), there will be an exchange which offers insurance coverage, still from private insurers who will be able to offer lower rates because they would be in a larger 'risk pool' its not about the government paying for hundreds of millions of patients at all,,, its just about getting insurance for the uninsured,,,,and at more affordable rates for those who in the past couldnt afford it no, thats not what it's about, it's about money, and nothing else. i know you can't understand that, because you are an obama cheerleader, but he and congress are not doing anything for the people as the MIC tells you, it's about money and kickbacks from the healthcare industry. the health care industry is the biggest moneymaker in the world right now, and they are the ones backing barry on this, and giving him his kickbacks. how sad that you think that all this is for the people, when nothing they ever do is for the people. actually, I dont feel 'sad' at all. I feel quite happy,,, how about you? |
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