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Sat 09/28/19 08:12 AM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sat 09/28/19 08:12 AM

ok sir ,will do
i will stop loving someone when she is fuzzy ,vague ,mystic,sloppy too


That sounds more like a list of things that will make you give up on trying for a relationship, rather than a list of reasons to stop loving someone.

Maybe I think of "loving someone" as something that comes about after we've gotten to know and like each other to the point where that sort of thing isn't a surprise.

In my own life, I haven't found that I ever stop LOVING someone, after I start doing so. But I have often decided to stop trying to be a part of their life, or have them as a part of mine.

The main reason I have ended up doing that, has always been the same: I realize that they don't actually love me. For example, in some cases, I was just a place holder while they were looking for the "real" guy they wanted; in some cases they really thought they loved me, but all it really was, was that I appeared to be able to fulfill some of their expectations about what a "real love" does for someone.

A basic way to describe it is that I gradually realized that whenever I just behaved as who I am for an extended period of time, they would start complaining that I wasn't behaving the way a mate is "supposed to."

After the running list of "don't be like that" stuff reached a certain (ever smaller) number, I would realize we weren't actually compatible, no matter how much I enjoyed them otherwise.

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Sat 09/28/19 08:00 AM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sat 09/28/19 08:04 AM
It does depend on where you happen to live. Which country, and which area in which country.

It also seems to be affected by generations, and by politics of the times.

When I was young, black-white relationships were just getting started in the US, especially in the area I was in (Virginia). There were LOTS of problems due to the previous years of both forced and selected segregation. There were lots of very large cultural differences that coincided with each race, including everything from how people dressed, to how they wore their hair, even to the ability to understand each other's slang.

By now, most things are better, because at least SOME of the direct racial antagonism is behind us by a generation or two, but there are still lingering suspicions. The latest "adventures" of some of our national leadership may have made things worse again.

But more than anything else, as long as people THINK of themselves and others as being of a different "race," things are going to be difficult.

By the way, from what I've seen, there is a LOT more than just black-white stuff going on. EVERY possible subgroup seems to have their own particular set of worries, prejudices and so on.

Oh, and one more thing to look at MOST closely, is how each persons EXPECTATIONS about each other affect things. This is where the less obvious racial/cultural prejudices have an effect. Lots of people fail to get along well enough to pair up, because they have a host of smaller expectations about things like how fast to answer questions, what kind of activities to offer to share, what kind of things to say might sound "romantic," and so on. So you might ponder and make some observations about that. Perhaps the way you've been approaching members of groups other than your own, has been triggering negative reactions that you are oblivious to having caused.

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Thu 09/26/19 04:08 PM
Well, technically, they haven't "been found to have engaged in fraud." They've just been charged, so far.

Hope this does pan out, though. I REALLY don't like those guys. For those reasons.

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Tue 09/24/19 05:19 AM

The occult is nothing more than hidden knowledge. There can be something mystical or supernatural in some knowledge, but all hidden knowledge is not. There is much that out own government keeps from us, and that knowledge could be referred to as occult, but you would not say this knowledge is supernatural.....unless you know something that I do not.


This is the closest I see so far to the historical source of the word "occult," as well as to how that word came to be associated with the various things that people think of when it is said today.

The word itself goes back to the Latin word occultus ("clandestine, hidden, secret").

It is commonly used both to refer to what IS HIDDEN, and to what people think SHOULD BE hidden, often as not.

Going back to R2D2r2d2's original question, there can be "occult" knowledge or concepts that are a PART of a given religion, and there can be entire religious beliefs that people think or want to be "occult," or "hidden away."

Some parts of some religions are hidden from all but the topmost leaders, because a great deal of knowledge and experience is required (at least in the minds of those hiding the stuff they are hiding) before someone can deal with them without going nuts. Some parts of religions are "occulted" because the leaders fear that newer followers will be driven away or lost if the "occult" stuff were formally and openly talked about.

And there are some religious things that are made "occult," or hidden, just for the sake of making the leaders seem more powerful or "cool.

Ironically, much of what is called "the occult" nowadays, has nothing to do with secrecy or "hidden" knowledge, it just has to do with stuff the people in power
disapprove of.

Or with toys that Hasbro wants us to buy.


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Tue 09/24/19 05:01 AM

The trickiest thing about love, in any situation, is figuring out what it really is about.

Whether it is love of the core person, or love of their lifestyle, or love of your own imaginations about them and yourself.

Barriers to a happy time together don't remain or fall away because of the existence of love, they do so because of what the love really consists of.

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Sun 09/22/19 06:39 AM

anyone into bdsm


Sort of.

I still read what people say here, and interact with them.

I think that qualifies on all counts.

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Sat 09/21/19 06:15 PM
I'm also in the "never heard exactly that" line. A long time ago I was lucky enough to hear SOME "sweet words," now and then, but ended up without a very positive experience about such overall.

Just my luck, really. I can't imagine hearing them from a SOBER person anytime soon.

Congratulations to all who have enjoyed such!

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Sat 09/21/19 08:04 AM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sat 09/21/19 08:04 AM
Overall, this whole thing seems to be about blaming and punishing ALL WOMEN for what a few individuals did.


And even worse than that, is advocating the idea that the reason to behave "chivalrously" is in order to trick women or bribe them into liking you.

There is only ONE honorable reason to behave "chivalrously," and that is because you want to honor and behave according to your own high standards of comportment.

If you are doing it to try to "buy" favor, it isn't chivalry, it's manipulation.

And if you've decided to dedicate yourself to being rude to all women, because one was snotty to you earlier, all you're doing is confirming that the rude woman's prejudices about you were correct.

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Sat 09/21/19 07:54 AM
My sense of what "erotica" usually refers to, is esoteric porn for intellectual snobs.

Kind of like saying "lets talk about sex using only big words, so it doesn't look like we're as intense horn-dogs as we really are."

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Sat 09/21/19 07:47 AM
It sure is popular to jump to final conclusions with almost no information at all, as usual,I see.

A guy vanishes after someone suggests horse riding and pistol shooting as a "casual first meet," and people are leaping to declare everything from his politics to what kind of clothes he wears. Sheesh.

Answering the original question of whether or not those things are stuff that "guys like to do," I can say for me, they sound like fun.

HOWEVER...if someone suggested those (rather expensive) things to do as a FIRST MEET, and that person thought it was "casual," I would be put off. I'm not the "go quiet and vanish" type, so I wouldn't do that, and I wouldn't blurt out that I thought those things were "guy stuff," since I don't think that way either.

But at least around where I live, doing EITHER of those things as a FIRST MEET, would be both expensive, and, I think, counter-productive. No way to converse comfortably doing either one; most of the time spent together would be spent (for safety reasons) doing things other than getting to know each other. So yeah, great ideas for things to do for a fun couples outing, but not good first meet choices.

Maybe in Switzerland, there are shooting ranges with bargain rates, and horse riding facilities that cost less than a cup of coffee, but where I am such activities would require a LOT of advance planning and money. Especially doing both in one day.

Maybe the guy was put off by a sense of rushing directly to spending a bunch of cash for a first meet. Maybe he had bad prior experiences with women who suggested such things. Heck, I've had women suggest rather extended first meet scenarios, as a way to hint that she wanted me to go the heck away. Others who were testing to see how much money I make, without asking directly.

Heck, maybe all there was to it was that he suddenly realized that she was "out of his league" in all sorts of ways, because of the overall exchange.

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Sat 09/21/19 07:30 AM
Yeah, all there is to this is mundane everyday political "virtue signalling," as the modern slang goes.

Certain people like to pretend that "feminism" refers only to a collection of left-oriented ideas, most of which aren't actually related to feminism at all.

It's the right wing equivalent of a left winger declaring that his daughter wont be allowed to date self-declared "patriots," because they classify all such people as "warmongers."

Rather typical pathetic posturing for effect by a second rate wannabe (in this case, right wing) hero.

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Tue 09/17/19 02:18 PM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Tue 09/17/19 02:36 PM

When I had to study American culture etc. for my teacher study I of course came across the law system too. I couldn't get my head fully around it as it's so complex. Marshall, state, federal law, and what not.
I wondered why it had to be so complex, and wondered if even an American would understand how the hell it all worked.

Now I was reading this book and what it basically comes down to is that the federal stuff goes all the way back to general Washington and the time the United States were founded?

In the book Washington was forced to sign a treaty with a group of rather powerful people that they'd get certain parts of land around Washington, which then weren't much more than swamps, and it also said that he'd give the power back to the separate states, which would destroy the newly founded United States and all Washington had worked for.
Later on Washington managed to hide that treaty, but that group is trying to find it. They are now the federal government, meaning that if they'd get their hands on the treaty they have the right to separate from the United States and form their own identity, a superpower.
The United States would fall apart and the power would be returned to the states.
Apparently the federal government owns about a third of the land?

Now I'm not sure how much of this is fiction.
All this to-do with the freemasons, Templar and the group the now federal government comes from makes my head spin, hihi.
But there must've been a reason that Washington built Washington the way he
did, with all the alignments etc.

The peculiar thing is that in the book this group which is now the Federal Government claimed to be descendants from Atlantis, and they mentioned they were warriors, like the Atlanteans, which is BS, out to destroy other countries so they'd be the only superpower. Now Atlantis wasn't about this, but...

So I'm posting this, wondering what you know and/or think of this?

And enlighten me if you know... Did the Americans at the time of Washington NOT want to be united and felt betrayed by Washington who did unite them under one government?


Dodo's right, and so is motowndowntown and SpaceCodet and probably Rockgnome, though I never saw the particular show he mentioned.

The only part of what you read that wasn't fiction, was the names of the people, and the fact that there is a country called the United States.

As for the alignments I'm sure they talked about, the idea that Masons secretly made sure that five pointed stars and pyramid shapes were created by the grand avenues that L'Enfante and his successors pencilled in, is made obviously silly, from the fact that in order to make the star shapes especially work, you have to hold any DC map at an extreme acute angle and close one of your eyes.

Do most Americans understand how the government actually works? Not that I've ever witnessed. But that's an unrelated story for another discussion.

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Sat 09/14/19 12:10 PM
Various things can slow a PC down, but that IS a very small amount of memory. It depends on what you do with the PC. It's always been true that the more graphics intensive (pictures) your uses include, the more RAM you should have available.

You could also check to see exactly what kind of new hard drive you were given. If it's larger than the previous one, but has a lower input-output speed, everything could slow down because of that.

If it's slow sometimes and not other times, it can be due to your internet provider playing games with resources (usually to sell more resources to businesses).

And of course, you should run some anti-virus and anti-malware programs.

Even today, lots of online businesses that we buy things from, add little subprograms to our PC's that cause them to start notifying them every time we shop for something. The time it takes to "tattle" on you to the commercial monitor is going to slow things down.

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Sat 09/14/19 12:00 PM
I'm with you step for step.

When I was a kid, I was enthralled by the idea of space travel. Granted, the larger part of what got me away from it, was the realization that there really isn't anywhere fun to GO in space (yet).

But it's also true that as you say, the process to GET off the planet (though it has improved a lot from the time of Apollo 13) isn't any fun at all.

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Sun 09/08/19 01:57 PM
I've come across several things like this in my life. Mathematical "coincidences" that no one is sure of why they exist.

The most obvious answer to go for, is a variation (in spirit at least) on the idea that to a person who only knows about hammers, every problem can look like a nail. That the coincidence is due to the fundamental structure of the universe itself. Or to the tools we use to inspect the universe.

Or perhaps the idea "it is what it is," runs deeper than it looks like.

It's a very intriguing fact that such a seemingly universal empirical observation seems so consistent.

I didn't like some of the proposed explanations in the video. Especially attributing word usage rates to general human laziness.

If anything, I myself would suspect that the reason for this, has to do with the nature of time as humans experience and deal with it. Or maybe it's a reflection of our ability to perceive.

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Thu 09/05/19 02:31 PM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Thu 09/05/19 02:33 PM
Over the years, I've come to recognize that racism is a lot more complicated and subtle than I first thought it was, when it was described to me in my earliest years.

It's not just "people who think people who don't look like them are inherently inferior."

And it can't be fixed simply by outlawing rude name-calling, or bad public behavior.

I don't agree that it is entirely "learned." It CAN be built into learning experiences, overtly as well as not; and some of it can be reduced by forcibly altering some training. But some of what turns into what we call racism, comes about by other means.

Mainly, by simple "otherism." It does no good to tell everyone that it's wrong or false to segregate by race, if you are also telling them that it IS okay to segregate by political opinion, by wealth, by job skills, by speaking abilities, and so on.

Some APPARENT racism, from what I've seen, really isn't racism. I'm thinking here, of people who seem to like folks when they are doing well for them (like sports figures) but when those people mess up or disappoint, some will go back to whatever mental bin full of insults they maintain, and spout the most insulting or hurtful things they can dredge up. (Minor note, that is perhaps what happened with Michael Richards, when he panicked and spouted a bunch of racist epithets after being verbally attacked during a comedy show). Sure, a case could be made that if you even know certain words, and think they apply to whatever groups they apply to, that proves you are racist, but that doesn't quite feel like a complete analysis of the situation to me.

And no, I have never myself spouted any racial epithets ever in my life. Not because I have no racisms in me, or because I'm magically "nice" or anything, it's just that I am not a name-caller person. Never have been. Seems to be genetic, since my parents weren't either, and neither was anyone else in my family. We didn't even have to be overtly trained not to do it, we just didn't.



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Thu 09/05/19 10:53 AM
Souls?

After 66 years pondering it all, I have arrived at a point where I can confidently say, unequivocally, that I have no friggin idea.

I've been through all sorts of gyrations and iterations over it. I've studied it religiously, spiritually, historically, psychologically, physiologically, and through direct experiences. I know what I've thought about it, I know what I've felt about it, I know what I wish is true.

I FEAR that there are no souls, and that I will die and come to an end, and never know anything more after that. I WISH that that isn't true, or that extended life will be discovered before I reach my end. But I don't have any real HOPE for that.

I've experienced enough "weird"stuff, that I can see possibilities for something more than consciousness being and accident of physics. Lots of those experiences do NOT require the existence of SOULS to explain them; but they certainly do require more than the strictly mundane ideas that most non-believers in "magical" things insist on.

I've completely resolved what to do about religious ideas that would be involved if souls and gods exist.

I haven't at all resolved what to do about my eventual demise.

That's about all I can say about this stuff.


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Sat 08/24/19 12:42 PM
Something to look at with this, is the sequence of events.

The US started outsourcing industry overseas, after China was opened up as a blank-check trading "partner' back in the 1970's, and trade and tax regulations were "adjusted" to make it vastly more profitable to make things overseas and import finished products, than keep industry at home.

Despite claims by some that high wages for some workers, driven up by unions, were the primary cause of everything, the reality is very different.

Wages were driven down AFTER the Reagan era "supply side" tax cuts were handed out to businesses and the investor classes with no corresponding spending cuts.

Despite huge reductions in wages and benefits, industries still raced to send manufacturing jobs elsewhere, again because various regulations caused that behavior to be more profitable.

The reason why Trump has been surprised by businesses CONTINUING to do this, despite even more vast cuts to taxes on the investor classes, is because HE refuses to recognize the facts about this game as well.

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Wed 08/14/19 05:25 AM
Well, anything can be at least psychologically addictive.

Not so sure about skiing in L.A., though.

I went skiing once a long time ago, had a great time. Too expensive in my area, though, for me to go often enough to get "addicted.

Never heard of anyone saying sex was "necessary" while skiing. Especially not the better skiing coaches and trainers.

On the other hand, sex while skiing would certainly require a lot of acrobatic skill.

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Tue 08/13/19 05:39 AM
I've found that part of the reason for why many people do and say things like that they love you, far too early, is a sort of accidental result of how people came to deal with the world from moment to moment, from the time they were small children.

It's all a fairly simple matter of learning first, that you want something; then, that if you say and do the right things, you can maybe get it.

Men and women both learn from each other, in any social interaction. In the case of dating, I noticed that people will often use words more as a magic incantation, than a form of communication.

Basically, they learn in the dating world, that saying "I really like or love you," is much the same as Ali Baba saying "open sesame" in front of the great cave of treasures.

Where things really get difficult, is that in many cases, people who learn that saying "I love you," is the magic spell that gains them cooperation with their target, actually come to believe that that's what real love actually is. So they SAY "I love you," and then do whatever is fun for the short term, and when they start to lose interest, they use the "spell breaking" magic phrase "I've fallen out of love with you." And then tell their friends that they just had another bad experience with "love," when actually, all they did was play with a toy for a little while.

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