I don't discriminate. I hate ALL the big and heartless tin-man corporations, USA included; doesn't everyone?

...I mean, it isn't like they are people or anything...just artificial persons (easy to hate because they have no feelings to hurt) who rob, torture and kill everyone that has a pulse and a beating heart, all for the sake of worthless paper...Talk about screwed up values!

The battle for justice has it's victories. This one sets a very important precedent...It is the precursor to the return of the rule of law.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/for-the-first-time-ever-a-prosecutor-will-go-to-jail-for-wrongfully-convicting-an-innocent-man/

The wheels of justice may turn slowly, but they DO turn, and they are a juggernaut that nothing can stop.

All the world is a stage and we are all actors in the play. Even Kissinger calls it a "drama."

The play is an improve and we all get a hand in scripting the ending. How would you like to see it turn out?

Are you saying that we should not live by the rule of law and that we should "cull" the bulk of the world's population to ensure the peace and prosperity of those left? Wouldn't those greedy murderers who are left be the ones who should by rights be culled from the population?

We live in a world of abundance that we can't see, as we've been trained from birth to think of it in terms of scarcity of resources. Most would rather see half the human population sent to the gas chamber or the oven rather than the "unthinkable alternative" of not having a cellphone or big screen TV.

Given a side to take, I think I'd rather die with the rest of the "useless eaters."...Dead or not, at least I'd be on the side of right, justice, and the rule of law.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -- Jimi Hendrix

I humbly suggest that this has occurred without the need for an "Armageddon" to be fought, or perhaps that Armageddon has already been fought in a way that no one imagined, and that we have won. All that remains is to inform the soldiers still in their trenches that the war is over, and it is now time to bury the hatchets, beat our swords into plowshares and get back to work.

You are exactly correct! The extortion isn't the difference between left & right (Stalin and Mussolini should have taught us that), but between authoritarian (dictatorial) and voluntary (charitable) wealth redistribution.

That's the whole point...The Fuhrers everywhere are already taking to their bunkers because they are losing the war against the people.

The revolution is ongoing and probably started long before the following picture was taken (but it serves as a good symbol for the REAL peoples' revolution):



The second hero in the picture is the man with a conscience inside the tank who, unlike the monster who rolled over Rachel Corrie, could not bring himself to roll over the passive resister of false authority.

This revolution will not be fought with guns (though it may be fought for the the right to keep and bear them, along with all the other rights to which one is entitled); it will be fought and WON by the indomitable will and spirit of the common man...everywhere!

It's a rule of the free market that supply has to go where the demand is greatest, and the greatest demand for toilet tissue is to be found in D.C. It's only natural that the CIA had to steal it from the poor of another country to give to the rich Fed lackeys in Washington.

You should give him a "sieg heil" salute for losing you the alliance of a rogue state and international lawbreaker.

I love that expression because it asks without the asking the profound questions "Who is keeping you, your brother, or your master?" and "When did the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness become privileges you had to earn?"

Like ousting the rich socialists who run the US and have been robbing and killing its people?

When does your coup start?

If "we" could all just get together and cooperate, "we" could do any damn thing "we" wanted. As the demonstrators say "A people united can never be defeated!" and as the banksters say "We've even got the nuclear families divided against themselves now! Now we OWN them!"

You still have freedom of choice...Choose wisely...Unity, or Slavery?

just a question.

I KNOW I am...The peaceful revolution is going on in more places than Egypt. Stay tuned for one a little closer to home.

The Mingle server for some reason can't handle https URLs.

I've "fixed" the URL by removing the "s" from https

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-2c56V4naw

After watching the vid, I can't help but feel that the "2nd american revolution" will be a (relatively) peaceful global revolution of the people almost everywhere against their government (and for the most part, "government" means "The Bank")

We have watched Egypt ever since the ousting of Mubarek, and watched as one "puppet" government after another gets kicked out by the egyptian people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPGJYXjDnQw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFZeB7LI4bk

So who did you assassinate with it; Arafat, Chavez or both of them?

I take it you favour absolute chaos and anarchy and the dog-eat-dog law of the corporatist/fascist jungle to something as ridiculous as law, order and justice eh?

Don't get me wrong...It can be fun to kill anybody you don't like...at least it is until they stop liking you...and calling you a POS that they'd be better off without.

Are you sure you and Yassar aren't blood relations?

In a paradoxical twist of fate, I think the Axis of Logic is run in the USA (I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure its server is located there). At any rate I find it amusing that the USA would be opposed to logical thinking, however, as we all know, those who believe absurdities can be made to commit atrocities, and, while there is no shortage of those anywhere, there appears to be a glut of them occurring in the USA.

It is not logical to think that the bulk of the American people would approve of their own economic and spiritual rape at the hands of banking robber-barons and their heartless corporatist corporations (of which the USA is one), unless one is one of the one percent who benefits from the rape of the other 99%.

Presumably, that would be you, since you seem so determined to defend the indefensible. It does surprise me however, since like me, you apparently came from another planet to observe the earthlings in their apparently never-ending struggle for freedom and justice.

It sounds like you got too involved and probably started profiteering at the people's expense, thus violating the prime directive.

I came here from Earth. What was your planet again?...Melmac?

I think we now know why Venezuela's health care is collapsing.

The "liberal" socialists can't be allowed to have better health care than the corporatist/Stalinist "socialists" (such as the more recent US administrations).

Decent health care creates an example (of the duty to care) that sticks in the craw of the (has-been, crooked) rulers who would rather rob & kill the people than help them.

The CIA HAD to sequester all that toilet paper. They needed it badly, because all of their best-laid plans have turned to you-know-what.

The Supreme Court, that's who!...They are bound by LAW to do so, and they have the power if needed to issue the warrants for arrest, which would bind all peace officers to enforce the de jure warrants to arrest the President, the entire congress and senate and to take control of the military if necessary to restore the RULE OF LAW to your country!

And if the Supreme Court refuses to cooperate (High Treason), even THEY could be arrested by de jure peace officers! (but just between you and me, I don't think the Supreme Court would commit treason)

To answer the question the thread asks, IMHO the people will have had enough when they quit trying to get out of jury duty. specifically GRAND JURY duty.

A friend sent me this, and I thought I'd share it with you:

_For Immediate Release_: *Released By: *CHARLOTTE COUNTY
FLORIDA GRAND JURY




*PRESS RELEASE*

On October 8, 2013 the people of Charlotte County Florida came together to
Constitute a Common Law Grand Jury by electing to reestablish the Peoples Jury
here in Charlotte County, Florida, by the following authorities.

In the Supreme Court case of *United States v. Williams, 112 S.Ct. 1735, 504 U.S. 36,
118 L.Ed.2d 352 (1992)*, Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, confirmed
that the American grand jury is neither part of the judicial, executive nor legislative
branches of government, but instead belongs to the people. It is in effect a fourth
branch of government "governed" and administered to directly by and on behalf of
the American people, and its authority emanates from the Bill of Rights, the acts
of the Grand Jury is the consent of the people.

“/The grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the
Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches
described in the first three Articles. It " 'is a constitutional fixture in its own right. In
fact the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the
institutional government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the
Government and the people/”. *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/Thus, citizens have the unbridled right to empanel their own grand juries and
present "True Bills" of indictment to a court, which is then required to commence a
criminal proceeding. Our Founding Fathers presciently thereby created a "buffer"
the people may rely upon for justice, when public officials, including judges,
criminally violate the law/.” *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/The grand jury is an institution separate from the courts, over whose functioning
the courts do not preside, we think it clear that, as a general matter at least, no
such "supervisory" judicial authority exists. The "common law" of the Fifth
Amendment demands/ /a traditional functioning grand jury/.” *-- Justice Antonin
Scalia*

“/Although the grand jury normally operates, of course, in the courthouse and
under judicial auspices, its institutional relationship with the judicial branch has
traditionally been, so to speak, at arm's length. Judges' direct involvement in the
functioning of the grand jury has generally been confined to the constitutive one
of calling the grand jurors together and administering their oaths of office. The
grand jury's functional independence from the judicial branch is evident both in the
scope of its power to investigate criminal wrongdoing, and in the manner in which
that power is exercised/.” *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/The grand jury 'can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated,
or even because it wants assurance that it is not.' It need not identify the offender
it suspects, or even "the precise nature of the offense" it is investigating. The grand
jury requires no authorization from its constituting court to initiate an
investigation, nor does the prosecutor require leave of court to seek a grand jury
indictment. And in its day-to-day functioning, the grand jury generally operates
without the interference of a presiding judge. It swears in its own witnesses and
deliberates in total secrecy/.” *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/Recognizing this tradition of independence, we have said the 5^{th}
Amendment's constitutional guarantee presupposes an investigative body 'acting
independently of either prosecuting attorney or judge” /*-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/Given the grand jury's operational separateness from its constituting court, it
should come as no surprise that we have been reluctant to invoke the judicial
supervisory power as a basis for prescribing modes of grand jury procedure. Over
the years, we have received many requests to exercise supervision over the grand
jury's evidence-taking process, but we have refused them all. "it would run counter
to the whole history of the grand jury institution" to permit an indictment to be
challenged "on the ground that there was incompetent or inadequate evidence
before the grand jury/." *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*


You have had the tool to govern your government all along...you just quit using it ya lazy buggers!

Now get those grand juries together and let's see some indictments!