Ok, coming back to it for the twentieth time.

men and women are different. Our bodies are different. The way we think is different. What we prioritize is different. How we show affection is different.

So, yes, you can easily define that by comparing two genders to one.

That has been my argument all along. Two genders give the kids a better understanding of life as they grow up over one gender. This is shown by studies of single family homes as MsHarmony said.

It is better.

Um, because the Muslim faith says you must be Muslim. They have very little tolerance for other faiths. That and they have a very oppressive life style.

Let me ask you. Would you prefer to live in Saudi Arabia or the Vatican? Why?

Why is it less healthy than a homosexual relationship.

The entire argument stems from their sexual preference is no importance.

In general Prostitutes do not work out of their home. So how is it worse?

Um, perhaps you were not listening this entire time?

I would prefer to put the child in the best environment possible. Why settle for good when you can have better or best?

I agree, when I first heard what the Statue of Liberty actually represented that the French offered, I was truly surprised the leaders of our country were not offended by the gift.

However, at that time if a gift was offered, it was accepted with gratitude. I think we did a good job of taking this snub and turning it to a positive piece of our history.

Why is a prostitute a bad comparison? What makes her bad and a homosexual couple good?

Um, not even close.

That would be like comparing a mansion to a hovel and saying they are the same because they both provide shelter.

You never bothered to ask. You just started yelling saying I was wrong.



yes, the church can speak for God. But that is a totally different debate that would get way off topic.

I'm sorry, but gender DOES have a big role in a child's life.

I assume you had a mother and father in your life. Think about growing up without having one or the other at all.

Part of raising kids is who you are. You cannot change your gender and both genders have significant differences, both physically and mentally. Women are better at quite a few things just as men are better at others. Kids will miss a big piece of that in a unisex home.

Did you grow up with a mom and dad?

If so, did you look at your parents as the examples of what a man and woman mean?

Did you look at other adults the same way as you did your parents?

That is what I mean...

You can go investigate if you so desire. You know as much as I do at this point. I would have to search for a study the same way you would.

I know what I heard and I really don't care if you accept it as evidence or not.

You are pretty close with the exception of what I think a man and woman should do in a marriage. I have no problem with my wife working if she chooses. I would be very proud of her if she chooses to. I would also be very proud of her if she chose to stay at home to raise the kids. I would be willing to stay at home and raise the kids if that worked best as well. But being a man, I feel responsible to provide for and protect my family. So in general, I would love for her to want to stay home but I certainly wouldn't try to talk her into that if she wanted to work.




As far as what is good to be as adoptive parents, I wouldn't want a devil worshiper to adopt but other than that, if they have a good home, that is all that really would matter. I don't care what their faith is. I may take a second look if they were Muslim, but mostly because of how oppressive their faith is. There have been honor killings of children in the US before.

No, that is your interpretation of what I mean by better.

Levels are good - better - best.

I have been thinking all along that a homosexual family can be good. You did not know what was in my head.




Are you now the arbiter of what is right and wrong?

Raising a kid in a heterosexual environment doesn't work?

Why doesn't it? That is what I have been arguing here. A heterosexual family is better for the kid than a homosexual one because there is both a male and female role model.

How is it that is an archaic idea that doesn't work? The only negative to that statement would be to change it to say a heterosexual family is worse for the kid than a homosexual one. That is what your statement means...

Um, because there is a male and female roll model to grow up with... Didn't I already say that a few times?

I guess I imagined it every time then.

I have heard a news story like that on ABC, NBC or CBS at least 6 times.

you can deny it if you like. I know what I heard which is in part why I hold my opinion.

I'm not backpedaling.

If you care to look, I always said kids are better off in a heterosexual home. I never said that a homosexual home is bad.

This whole debate stared because the Catholic church was forced to decide if allowing a homosexual couple adopt was better than closing their doors. Each was an equally abhorrent choice they had to make. They had to choose the lessor of two evils. Renounce one of their tenants as being false. That is a church body standing up and saying, "We are wrong on what sin is." Or, abandon their cause to help children.

Anyone that thinks they made this decision lightly is not thinking about what the BOD had to debate when making this decision.

so, it is 2011. What does that have to do with anything?

We are more enlightened now and the thought that a heterosexual couple is good is no longer valid because we are more accepting as a society?

I didn't say homosexuals can't be good parents. I said kids would be better off in a heterosexual home with a male and female role model.

No matter how you slice it, I am not forcing my beliefs upon them. They don't have to adhere to my beliefs in any way shape or form. They don't have to be Christian and I am not saying they need to convert to have a child. They can complain that my personal belief is that a kid is better off in a heterosexual home all they want. That doesn't make them have to accept my faith in any way. I could still have that view if I were not Christian. There actually are quite a few people that hold that view that are not? Are they also forcing their beliefs down someones throat?

So, when I heard on the news, "XYZ did a study that showed..." they made up the study and just gave their opinion? By the way, I don't watch Fox news and never did. So you can toss that argument out the window...