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Fri 03/13/09 03:13 PM

"When one is in a hole, the first order of business is to stop digging."

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Yes, when it comes to hole digging, Republicans were for it before they were against it.

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Fri 03/13/09 02:38 PM
Edited by madisonman on Fri 03/13/09 02:47 PM
People are allready being robbed for healthcare it seems to me the trouble is management. It is managed for the profit of shareholders and owners and not for the health of the people. time to change the over priced bloated management and have someone accountable to the people on election day.

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Fri 03/13/09 05:29 AM
It's getting to that time when we may have to man the barricades and wait for the telltale sound of squealing now that President Obama has released his budget. Not long after that, we'll see the banners and hear the predictable charges of "Class warfare!" And if you think about it, that's exactly what it is--and the class that has been taking it on the chin for the last 30 years is about ready to return fire.

It was Ronald Reagan who began this battle, on a number of fronts. It was Reagan, the first union member to become president, who cut the legs out from under the collective bargaining movement, beginning the steady erosion of union membership (thus giving power to the executive class whose salaries began their explosive and outrageous rise). It was Reagan who began the campaign to lower the top-tier tax rates, by a series of avuncular lies, the biggest of which was ridiculed as "trickle-down economics." Give all the tax breaks to the top brackets and the largesse would trickle down to everyone else. Reagan's budget director, David Stockman, was even quoted in The Atlantic in 1981 as calling the Reagan tax plan "a Trojan Horse" to bring down the top rate. By the time George H.W. Bush took office, the top tax rate was down to 28 percent, and Reagan had yet to fulfill his promise to balance the budget with all the magical revenues that cutting taxes were supposed to bring.

When Bill Clinton raised the top rate back up to 39.6 percent, conservatives took to the airwaves with their unceasing whine that Clinton enacted "the largest tax increase in American history." Eight years later, Clinton balanced the budget and left George W. Bush with a surplus. And what was the first thing Bush claimed? That he could cut taxes, keep the surplus and grow the economy! Have we learned anything here yet?

About every other year in this space for the last six years, I have repeated Santayana's old saw about what happens to those who forget history (while putting together my book of columns, this became rather obvious), but here I am again trying to point out what will happen--and the conservatives are playing their part right down to re-blocking the same choreography.

The blogger David Waldman, known as "Kagro X" on the Daily Kos, compiled a list of quotes from prominent Republicans back in 1993 after Clinton proposed his deficit reduction plan (that, like Obama's stimulus plan, passed without a single Republican vote in the House of Representatives). Newt Gingrich, who this weekend was featured on the cover of The New York Times Magazine as one of the Republicans jockeying to lead the party out of the wilderness, said this at a GOP press conference in August of 1993: "I believe this will lead to a recession next year. This is the Democrat machine's recession, and each one of them will be held personally accountable."

In contrast, by the time George W. Bush had been in office a year, the right-wingers were already champing at the bit not just to keep lowering the top rate, but actually pushing to tax low-income earners even more, since in their eyes, if poor people aren't taxed enough, they aren't angry enough about the size of government (which has always been bad in the eyes of the right). Calling the poor "Lucky Duckies," the Wall Street Journal editorialized in November 2002 that "Workers who pay little or no taxes can hardly be expected to care about tax relief for everybody else. They are also that much more detached from recognizing the costs of government."

By the end of the Bush administration, Bloomberg reported that the average tax rate paid by the richest 400 Americans dropped a quarter to a stunning 17.2 percent and their average income doubled to $263.3 million, mostly because of the steady Bush effort to keep cutting capital gains rates. The Congressional Budget Office points out that the average post-tax income of the top one percent of households, adjusted for inflation, jumped by a million dollars since 1979, while the pay for most families has only barely climbed faster than the inflation rate.

If this is class warfare, the tanks of the rich have been grinding the rest of us down into the mud for 30 years. Lawrence Summers, the former Clinton treasury secretary turned Obama economic advisor, used to say that, in effect, families in the bottom 80 percent of earners were each sending an annual check of $7,000 to the top one percent.

President Obama has a chance to reverse the reverse-Robin Hood mindset that the Republicans have foisted on us for two generations. All the money that has been funneled to those top earners has gone to eviscerate government, enable irresponsible stock traders and real estate swindlers, and balloon executive salaries despite vanishing profits and failing companies, while the pensions and the jobs and the futures of middle class and poor Americans vanished like tears.

Change isn't going to come quick. As a matter of fact, it's going to be a war, and the people who got all that money aren't going to give up easily.
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About author
Brian Morton is a columnist for the Baltimore City Paper.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/20719

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Fri 03/13/09 04:56 AM
1) God doesn't exist, and never did. Belief in a Heavenly Father arose out of primitive ignorance and associated superstition. To think that an omnipotent old fellow with a white beard sits on a golden throne in the sky is wildly ridiculous. The only thing crazier is to believe said deity created us, governs our affairs, and deserves our blind obedience. Help stamp out witch-hunts and suicide bombings. Relegate God to the same dustbin of mythology where all ghosts, holy or otherwise, rightfully belong.

2) We don't have souls and don't go anywhere but into the ground to be eaten by worms when we die. Let's bravely acknowledge that fact.

3) Quit contending that global warming isn't real. Except for discredited, charlatan "scientists" of the kind who promote Intelligent Design, the overwhelming majority of truly qualified experts agree that manmade greenhouse gases are dangerously heating the planet. Conservatives can't bring themselves to admit that "liberals" and United Nations types could ever be correct about anything, so they nay-say, sit on their hands, and would allow their grandchildren (and ours) to ultimately perish, fearfully gasping for precious breath.

4) Nationalism sucks. Belief that one's own country is better or more important than all others has generated massively destructive jingoism and xenophobia through the ages. Combined with religion, it's been the chief cause of war for bloody centuries. Join me in pledging to never take up arms against anyone on bogus pretexts -- or to imagine them inferior, "evil," etc. -- just because they live beyond the ocean, look strange, and have unfamiliar customs.

5) Let's jettison monopoly capitalism, which is so parasitically harmful that it makes a starving vampire bat seem benign. If we the people took over the economy, democratically controlling it for public profit and common gain, we'd never get robbed at the gas pump again, pay an arm and a leg for medical care or prescription drugs, lose our homes to usurious mortgage thieves, or get sent off to die in meddling neocons' criminal invasions abroad. Fire the boss! Become a fair-minded owner of America, along with your fellow workers and neighbors!

6) Stop bashing immigrants. Each of our own arriving ethnic groups was accused by existing nativists of stealing jobs, being a societal drain, having criminal and otherwise unsavory tendencies, or spreading disease, just as mostly Hispanic immigrants are condemned today. Such successive discrimination plainly benefited divide-and-conquer corporate profiteers. It was only when ethnicities, races, and genders united -- understanding that an injury to one is an injury to all -- that the overall U.S. working class made decisive advances and acquired a mutually better living standard.

7) Admit that nothing worthwhile comes from conservatism. It's abject selfishness masquerading as a valid ideology. Its sole purpose is to perpetuate minority privilege attained through illegitimate power wielded against consequently suffering masses. Conservatives will never utter the word "justice," for it's a shattering indictment of their consistently exploitative role in human affairs. Everything good has been fiercely resisted by the political Right: abolishing slavery and child labor, gaining women's suffrage, struggling to achieve racial equality, raising the minimum wage, implementing progressive taxation, establishing health and safety standards in the workplace and the community at large, just to name a few.

8) Accept that, while abortion isn't pretty, it's often necessary. Furthermore, only each female in each specific, unique circumstance has the right to determine what constitutes a legitimate abortion need. No male, or male-dominated institution, should interfere in this most personal and difficult choice. Before guys say one word about the supposed impropriety of terminating an unacceptable pregnancy, they should produce ironclad guarantees about controlling their reckless libidos and keeping their penises in their pants, if that's where they're told they should remain.

9) Repeat after me: "Better gay than grumpy." The only problem with homosexuality is that some straights, insecure about their own orientation, get uptight over it. Most animal species engage in same-sex contact on a minority basis. Therefore it isn't "unnatural," just different, and entirely involuntary, like being left-handed rather than right. Besides, aren't the last six words of the Pledge of Allegiance "with liberty and justice for all"? Quit being hypocrites and get aboard the freedom train!

10) To nurture the collective human spirit, which is quite different than a religious "soul," think less about what you can personally acquire, in a material sense. Instead, join struggles for shared prosperity. Know that the greatest reward is giving a deprived child reason to laugh. Honor and guard our earthly home. Lie down beside a blade of grass and contemplate its simple magnificence. Then, when relentless age takes its final toll, buy the farm with a contented smile. You lived well. You did the right thing.

Feed those worms and help make that grass grow!
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About author
Dennis Rahkonen, from Superior, Wisconsin, has been writing progressive commentary with a Heartland perspective for various outlets since the Sixties.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/20720

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Fri 03/13/09 04:47 AM



If nurses want to get together and be charitable that is a positive thing. If they expect to be government funded, that turns into a negative thing.

In order to solve the healthcare crisis we must obviously ask "Why is healthcare so unaffordable?" There are many, many reasons for this. But they all must be addressed before throwing money at the situation. Makes sense?
Not realy being we are allready throweing more and more money at it and getting less and less care.


Right, and it's getting us nowhere as you pointed out. Why not research the heart of the problem, than address those issues....
The heart of the problemb is it is for profit.

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Thu 03/12/09 03:19 PM

besides...NOW y'all think that universal healthcare sounds liek a good plan. but your all happy and in love with Obama....and think hes gonna fix all these problems with a socialist healthcare system.


give it 4 years.......what if you get another GWB in office?? Do you REALLY want him to be the big man behind your healthcare plan????
Andrew Koppelman offers some historic perspective on what Obama's policies do and do not represent in these un-Leninist times.

"Obama properly belongs in a specific anti-socialist movement on the left, Social Democracy, which accepts a capitalist economy but demands a state strong enough to moderate its failures and excesses...To whatever extent Obama is a socialist, we are all socialists now."


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Thu 03/12/09 02:10 PM

If nurses want to get together and be charitable that is a positive thing. If they expect to be government funded, that turns into a negative thing.

In order to solve the healthcare crisis we must obviously ask "Why is healthcare so unaffordable?" There are many, many reasons for this. But they all must be addressed before throwing money at the situation. Makes sense?
Not realy being we are allready throweing more and more money at it and getting less and less care.

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Thu 03/12/09 06:09 AM
Single-payer is the system that removes private insurance companies from the picture; the government pays all the bills, but health-care delivery remains private. People still get their choice of what doctor to go to and what hospital to use. Single-payer reduces the administrative costs and removes the profit that insurance companies add to health-care delivery
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/03/11-3

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Thu 03/12/09 05:51 AM
Is America's Health Care System the best or just the most expensive in the world?


Health care costs continue to rise in the US
The United States spends more on health care than any other country in the world and the health care costs continue to rise. Government figures show that in 2004 health care spending reached 1.9 trillion dollars, equaling 16 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product.
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2006-02/2006-02-28-voa59.cfm?CFID=8308952&CFTOKEN=93774770

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Thu 03/12/09 05:47 AM
Edited by madisonman on Thu 03/12/09 05:50 AM
The World Health Organization's ranking
of the world's health systems.
France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
This is from 2000 imagine if they had done this lst year or t his year with the millions of americans with no health care at all we would probably be at the bottem

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

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Thu 03/12/09 04:35 AM

Bush f*** up e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g... every f***ing thing. And I hate the way they try to blame Obama for it, and he just got into office.
drinker

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Thu 03/12/09 04:28 AM

single payer nationalized healthcare.

great I wonder whose paying for this?



some would end up benefiting, some would end up suffering.
I do not think in the long term...we (and our children ) would benefit.

but heck when Im old...I already dont expect social security and meidcare.


increase jobs...(so more our offered insurance) and make them insurance companies compete more for us getting their coverage.
america has the most expensive healthcare in the world yet we rank near the bottem in the western democracies in care. our health care system is as big a scam as the banking system.


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Thu 03/12/09 04:28 AM

single payer nationalized healthcare.

great I wonder whose paying for this?



some would end up benefiting, some would end up suffering.
I do not think in the long term...we (and our children ) would benefit.

but heck when Im old...I already dont expect social security and meidcare.


increase jobs...(so more our offered insurance) and make them insurance companies compete more for us getting their coverage.
america has the most expensive healthcare in the world yet we rank near the bottem in the western democracies in care. our health care system is as big a scam as the banking system.


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Wed 03/11/09 05:52 PM
Three of the country’s top organizations of direct care registered nurses have come together to form a new national nurses’ union that is advocating for a single-payer national health insurance program. The new union unifies the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, United American Nurses, and the Massachusetts Nurses Association into a 150,000-member association, making it the largest registered nurses union in US history http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/11/newly_formed_150_000_strong_nurses

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Wed 03/11/09 05:05 PM
AMY GOODMAN: We spend the rest of the hour with Paul Krugman, the award-winning New York Times op-ed columnist. He spoke recently in New York about the new class war in America. In addition to writing for the Times, Paul Krugman is a world-renowned economist. He teaches at Princeton University.

PAUL KRUGMAN: I was actually trying to get a sense—I know I’ve been working with statistics, but I was trying to get a sense of what this America that we seem to have lost was like. And I went—have been going back and reading. Now, Time magazine had kind of a survey of just, you know, what was the country like in 1953 after the election of Dwight Eisenhower. And what they said, the article began: “Even in the smallest towns and most isolated areas, the U.S. is wearing a very prosperous middle-class suit of clothes and an attitude of relaxation and confidence. People are not growing wealthy, but more of them than ever before are getting along.”

Now, that wasn’t really fair, even in 1953. Certainly if you had the wrong skin color, if you were living in the wrong parts of the country, you wouldn’t have agreed with that picture. But it was true of a lot of people. In fact, America really was a middle-class society during the ‘50s and ’60s. Not everyone. Not large segments of the population. But it was a relatively middle-class society, a relatively even distribution. And there were not a lot of very wealthy people, either. It’s not just that more people than ever before had a decent standard of living, but that the extremes, the plutocracy, seemed to have been pretty much tamed and, to a large extent, eliminated.

You would never say that about the country now. You would say, gee, we are now a country of great extremes. We are a country in which more and more people are having a hard time maintaining what the essentials of a middle-class existence—to say, just to take the cutting edge of the degeneration, health insurance. More and more people losing that sort of basic security of life. Job assurance.

If you look at the long sweep, here’s what you see about America. Once upon a time, there was the Gilded Age, period of enormous wealth, plutocracy. That lasted a lot longer than the history books would tell you. The Gilded Age is usually thought of as something that ended once intellectuals began speaking about changing it. But it didn’t, of course. It was really pretty much in place. All that wealth and privilege and widespread poverty and enormous gaps lasted right up into the 1930s. As far as we can tell, there was really no difference in the amount of inequality in 1929 from what it had been in the pre-World War I period.

Then, we became a middle-class society. We became a society—the one that, again, allowing for Time magazine sort of missing a lot of people in that story, we became that relatively broadly based prosperity, which is the country I grew up in. And then, we became again a dramatically unequal class-ridden society. And if you, if you look at the numbers and also just look around you, we are really back, in all essential respects, to Gilded Age levels of class differences and barriers.

I do like my statistics, but I also like the impressionistic things. And one of the things I’ve always tended to look at is real estate. Specifically, how ordinary people live, but also how the wealthy live.

And if you were to go back, the shores of Long Island Sound are a good place to sort of catch an index of what’s happening. In the Gilded Age and up through the ‘20s, into the ’30s, the shores of Long Island Sound, both the North Shore of Long Island and the Connecticut coast, were where the super wealthy built their mansions. They were gigantic piles, huge things where people lived. By the time I was growing up, the mansions, most of them, were still there physically, but they were no longer private mansions. People couldn’t afford them. They were between the really serious diminution of the wealth of the wealthiest, taxes, income taxes, lower incomes, the estate taxes, and the fact that also Americans were too well paid to be hired as servants to maintain those things. Most of them had been given up. They had been sold for very little to become schools and nursing homes, or they had actually been given away and become museums or government buildings.

Today, well, there was a story actually. The current Vanity Fair. Interesting thing how sometimes the best reporting is not coming sort of from the Washington Post, but from magazines. The story was actually mostly prurient interests, but it’s pretty interesting anyway, about Greenwich—Greenwich, Connecticut—where there are still a lot of the old Gilded Age mansions there. And it turns out that what’s been happening in Greenwich is that hedge fund managers have been buying up the Gilded Age mansions and knocking them down to build much bigger residences. The typical ones that they’re describing now are about 30,000-plus square feet, which is about the size of the Taj Mahal. So that’s about—that’s the impressionistic thing.

Turns to the numbers just to say—and this can easily become a grind—but it’s worth saying, the important thing to realize about what’s happened to America, both the flattening of our income distribution that happened in the middle of the century and the widening out that’s happened again is, it’s not a story about the top quarter of the population pulling ahead or the top 15. The great bulk of the action is really a few percent, in many cases just a very, very small number of people. If you were to look at the—there’s been a large rise since the 1970s in the share of income that’s gone to the top 10 of the population. I’ve gone through that. And if you work it out, it turns out that most of that rise is actually the top 1% of the population. And about half of it is the top 0.25% of the population, which means at the moment, or actually 2003, which is the last date for which we have it, people with incomes of more than $750,000 a year.

So we’re really not talking about—you know, you will hear stories that say, well, you know, people with good education and skills are pulling away from the rest of the population. Well, it’s true that, by and large, people who are earning $750,000 or more a year have college educations. But not everybody, right? It’s like I like to say, the Fortune 500 CEOs and high school teachers have about on average the same number of years of education. They’re not exactly experiencing the same pay raises. So this is tremendous elitism.

Now, why does all of this matter? It matters because—partly because it just means that most people are not sharing in economic growth. And the standard of living of the typical American family is—well, is it higher or lower than it was 30 years ago? You know, we can ask that question, but the fact that you even have to ask is telling you something. It’s close enough. Consumption of material goods seems a little bit higher, but job security is clearly a lot less. People are working longer hours. The risk of losing health insurance is much greater. The difficulty of getting your kids into a decent school is much harder. So it’s a mixed picture, but certainly not the—if you had asked in 1973, “Are people better off than they were in 1947?” people would have had—there was no question. Enormous progress. If you ask that now about 30 years ago, it’s not at all clear what the answer is. It’s only the top few percent of the population that have had enormous gain. So that’s one thing. We’ve had an economic growth, but it hasn’t been broadly shared.

But I actually think that that’s almost the least of it. Much more important is what this polarization of incomes does to our society. Now, there’s part of it that I can’t document too well, but I’m working on, which is, I think it actually just poisons the feeling of our society. And there is a reasonable amount of evidence that having a highly unequal society undermines the trust that people have in each other, because they don’t believe that we’re all in the same boat, that it actually increases corruption.

One of the—as you know, John Kenneth Galbraith died recently. And I’ve been reading his book, The New Industrial State, which was a fantastic portrait of the way American business, American capitalism, was in the ‘60s, but he thought it would persist forever. And it didn’t. One of the things he says there at length is that the whole issue that, you know, corporate executives might engage in self-dealing, that they might enrich themselves at the expense of the corporation, is just nothing to worry about. There’s no problem on that. And that was probably true around 1967.

You ask: why has that changed? And one of the answers is, well, you know, in the days when executives were paid like government officials, the incentive to lie and cheat—you know, you might get yourself a promotion, a bit larger salary, but if you were caught, that was the end of your career. Now if you lie and cheat, you can walk off with a couple hundred million dollars after a couple years, and if you are then booted from the company, you can probably find a way to not—unless you are really, really stupid, you won’t get convicted by a jury—you know, Ken Lay, okay, but Richard Scrushy walked away—and you’re set. So the incentives, the inequality in itself, creates the possibility of corruption in a way that wasn’t there before.

And there’s the political process. Let me tell you a historical story I’ve been working on quite a lot. Before the New Deal, there was a movement, there was an attempt to—there was a progressive movement. People did try for reform. And the great reformist of the time was Al Smith, the governor of New York, who was a poor kid who made his way up and retained, at least for a while, his feeling for the kind of people he grew up with and ran a very serious campaign for reform, for what would have been a sort of proto-New Deal policy in 1928. And it was at that point one of the ugliest campaigns ever in American history. Now, they could have—the trouble was that basically most people would have stood to benefit from the kinds of things Al Smith was advocating.

So what was the Republican Party, which at that time, by the way, the Republican Party had fundraising offices in every state, plus one for the North Shore of Long Island, where there were 500 mansions, just to give you a sense of how things worked, who ran the party. Well, they had to find something, so what they found was that he was a—gosh, he was an Irish Catholic. And so, there was this horrifying smear, cultural fears campaign against Al Smith, with burning crosses and everything, that managed to swing a number of Southern states, which being relatively poor, actually would have stood to gain quite a lot from his policies, that turned a lot of those states against him. And so, they were able to exploit, you know, cultural divisions, but although fundamentally there’s no evidence that the people were actually running—this is Herbert Hoover’s campaign—there’s no evidence that Herbert Hoover was himself a violent anti-Catholic bigot or that the people running his campaigns were, but they had found an issue that they could use to sort of—does this all sound kind of familiar? Right? And I think that’s true.

Now, what I can say for sure, and actually some of my colleagues at Princeton in the politics department work on, have done very interesting work on politics, and what they show is that the polarization of politics, which you can measure, and, I would say, the nastiness, which is very—you can’t exactly measure, but it’s very closely correlated, is very much—it rises and falls with income inequality.

Periods, the Gilded Age, the ‘20s, were periods of grotesque abuse of cultural issues, anything to smear people who might suggest things like, you know, progressive taxation. And times when those kinds of views, when everyone had more or less accepted the existence of the New Deal institutions, were quite calm. So that same Time magazine article in 1953 is saying Republicans and Democrats have a surprising sameness of outlook and political thinking, and that makes a big point about how Eisenhower had made it clear that he was not going to try to roll back the New Deal. Well, that’s why we—that’s a consequence of being a relatively equal society. And the ugliness and the viciousness of our political scene right now, I think, are in fact largely a consequence of the gross inequalities that have emerged.

Why? How did we—what happened? There’s a tendency to say, well, it’s, you know, it’s these impersonal market forces, or maybe it’s globalization requires inequality, or just technology. There’s always some truth to that kind of thing, but much less than you might imagine. I’ve already mentioned a little bit about education. We keep on hearing that technology creates this premium for the education for the creative classes, whatever it might be. It turns out that that’s really—put it this way, the median college-educated American has, unlike the median non-college-educated American, actually seen some gains in income over the past 25 years. But they’re tiny. It was less than one percent a year on average and, in fact, over the past five years, college-educated workers, most college-educated workers, have actually seen their incomes fall, once you adjust for inflation. It’s not actually true that a college education is the key to being successful. It’s being part of the tiny magic circle of the economic elite that gets you ahead. So it really isn’t about education. It isn’t about skills.

A little bit of it is about, you know, we like to talk about human capital being what matters. If you actually look at the last five years, human capital has been losing, but good old capital capital has actually been doing extremely well. Share of profits in national income is at its highest level since 1929. But it’s not at least that particular impersonal market force. And a lot of it looks like it’s—in fact, it’s the political process does a lot to drive the distribution of income, partly, of course, taxes—there’s taxes which tax the rich and provide benefits to everyone at large—but also other things, whether you have a political environment that basically assures workers of the right to organize or one that basically is sympathetic with employers who try to break unions, whether you have a general set of political pressure that says, that fairness is a good thing or that says that greed is good.

AMY GOODMAN: Paul Krugman, the New York Times op-ed columnist, author of the book, The Great Unraveling, a collection of his columns, speaking last week at the New York Ethical Culture Society in the launch of Greg Palast’s book called Armed Madhouse.

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/6/19/paul_krugman_on_the_new_class

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Wed 03/11/09 04:29 PM
My goodness, how they howl when the proverbial shoe is on the proverbial other foot. You'd think the Red Army had just left Moscow and was preparing a frontal assault on the Federal Reserve.
So what are conservatives, Wall Street and financial television commentators shouting? Socialists! That's right. Spread the word: Socialists are swarming over our nation's Capitol and making off with the means of production, otherwise known as campaign contributions and the federal budget. You got trouble, my friends.

The hysteria started during the campaign, retreated a bit but was back full throttle by the day after the inauguration. President Obama's left hand was barely off Abraham Lincoln's Bible when South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint told the January 21 edition of The Wall Street Journal, "What I'm looking to do as a conservative leader in the Senate is to identify those Republicans, and even some Democrats, and put together a consensus of people who can help stop this slide toward socialism."

Newt Gingrich, resurrected yet again, proclaims his Contract on America has been canceled and replaced by Barack Obama's "European socialism." Josh Bolin, founder of the conservative web site Reagan.org is quoted in The New York Times saying, "Socialism is something new for us to hit Obama over the head with," and a panel at the recent Conservative Political Action Conference was titled, "Bailing Out Big Business: Are We All Socialists Now?"

And what do all these pesky socialists coming out from the woodwork want? Why, class war, of course. Arise, ye workers from your slumbers, at least in time to watch early morning TV. On the "Today" show last week, CNBC's Jim Cramer alleged that President Obama was perpetrating 'an agenda in this country now that I would regard as being a radical agenda," adding, "This is the most, greatest wealth destruction I've seen by a president."

Joan Walsh of Salon.com noted several hundred references to Obama and "class warfare" when she searched the words on Google News at the beginning of March and wondered "why are mainstream reporters pushing this storyline?"

The truth is, there's nothing new about any of this. A famous New Deal-era cartoon in The New Yorker shows Manhattan swells in black tie urging neighbors to "Come along. We're going to the Trans-Lux to hiss Roosevelt." And as financial historian Charles Geisst told the Times, "To hear [FDR] referred to as Comrade Roosevelt during that period was not unusual."

But although Obama embraces FDR analogies, in some respects he's a piker by comparison. The Columbia Journalism Review linked to a chart from the National Taxpayers Union and noted, "The top marginal rate of 39.6 percent that Obama is proposing is actually low by historical standards - he may be adopting FDR-style rhetoric, but his tax plan isn't in the same ballpark. And it wasn't only Roosevelt. Throughout the Eisenhower administration, top tax rates exceeded 90 percent. Under Nixon, they never dropped below 70 percent. Even for most of Ronald Reagan's term, they were at 50 percent. Those presidents aren't often thought of as 'class warriors.'"

Nor did Democrats or progressives fire the first shots in any so-called class war. As the recently poorer multibillionaire Warren Buffet said a couple of years ago, "There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning."

America wasn't founded as a nation where winner takes all, but over the last couple of decades that's the way it has turned out. The central vision of "We, the people" has been distorted and manipulated by the powerful and privileged doing their damnedest as they wage class war to sustain their way of life at the expense of everybody else, even in this current crisis.

"Sold Out: How Wall Street and Washington Betrayed America," a report released last week by the nonprofit citizen's group Essential Information and the Consumer Education Foundation finds that "from 1998-2008, Wall Street investment firms, commercial banks, hedge funds, real estate companies and insurance conglomerates made $1.7 billion in political contributions and spent another $3.4 billion on lobbyists, a financial juggernaut aimed at undercutting federal regulation."

According to Harvey Rosenfield, president of the Consumer Education Foundation, "Depression-era programs that would have prevented the financial meltdown that began last year were dismantled, and the warnings of those who foresaw disaster were drowned in an ocean of political money. Americans were betrayed, and we are paying a high price - trillions of dollars - for that betrayal."

The truth of the matter may be that, as Nate Silver wrote at FiverThirtyEight.com, "The stock market is engaged in something of a pity party - the prevailing emotions being fear and loathing. It is concerned about policies which might be burdensome to equity holders in large corporations while perhaps nevertheless being boons to economic recovery."

Add to that a heavy dose of petulance, arrogance and malice stirred further by any attempt at curtailing their rice pudding days. While the dives in the stock markets are real enough, the screams and rending of bespoke garments carry more than the hint of self-inflicted wounds, in the manner of spoiled kids saying, "I meant to do that," when they break a toy, even though this administration is seeking solutions by joining hands with the very financial institutions that got us into the jam in the first place - including private equity firms and hedge funds.

Cries of Socialism! - with their insinuations of sedition and Bolsheviks under the bedstead - ring hollow, especially with the threat of global Communism 20 years past and many in the financial world opting for expediency over ideology. The basic truth is that there are no easy answers, no quick fixes, no kiss to the body politic that will make it all better.

Nonetheless, they lash out, flailing madly, saddling up straw horses and conjuring memories of McCarthy-like witch hunts, desperate to point the finger at anyone but themselves.

Michael Winship is senior writer of the weekly public affairs program "Bill Moyers Journal," which airs Friday night on PBS. Check local airtimes or comment at The Moyers Blog at www.pbs.org/moyers.


http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/03/11-16

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Wed 03/11/09 04:25 PM





How can Obama be failing? He has barely got started.slaphead


you're right.. he's just getting started f'ing things up.. look how bad it is already.. dow down 50% since he took his permanent leads in the election polls..

now that he's in office and hiring tax cheats to run the treasury.

he just might succeed in getting himself involved in wars with Iran and North Korea if he messes around long enough..
Didn't obama inherit the current financial mess less than two months ago from the Republicans, who for eight years under Bush assured us that the markets were not in any need of tighter regulation? Wasnt it GOP congressional members led by folks like Gingrich who pushed though the deregulation legislation that enabled the growth of "to big to fail" financial institutions that now have to be saved by the taxpayers?




really? care to watch these and then come back and give us your impression?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64&feature=channel

and then take a look at this

http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/npage/2_3051.html?mod=2_3002&sid=1643&page=us

set the time to decade, set bottom graph to volitility and looks at the past decade of the market..




bump..

let's discuss the facts.. come on..
seriously do you realy think that the small % of bad loans are enough to cripple the biggest economy in the world?

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Wed 03/11/09 04:16 PM

flowerforyou The only people I see disagreeing are the small minority of right wing repukelicans that cant accept that they LOST and the American people arnt buying into their crap anymoreflowerforyou
laugh

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Wed 03/11/09 04:02 PM

For the presidential run he says he isn't interested in.

Gingrich: Health care reform should start with behavior

By Dawson Bell • Free Press Lansing Bureau • March 11, 2009

LANSING – Improving the quality and access to health care in Michigan should start with efforts to reform behavior, like a ban on smoking in the workplace and mandatory exercise for school children, former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich told a state senate health policy panel this morning.

Gingrich, the former Republican congressman who now heads the Center for Health Transformation, said policymakers, the public and the media often make the mistake of viewing health care reform primarily as a financial challenge, rather than a complex mix of individual behavior, cultural influence and uneven quality.

Expanding access to health care and improving citizens’ health won’t happen by changing the financial model, he said.

“If all you do is try to figure out how to finance the current system, you’ll go broke,” Gingrich said. “The current system is stunningly wasteful.”

Gingrich appeared before the state Senate Health Policy Committee as part of a health-care related trip to Michigan.

Much of his testimony focused on the need to find ways to change behavior, especially in the state’s poorest communities. Government can encourage healthier eating and living by providing financial and tax incentives, such as providing a food stamp bonus to recipients who purchase more fruits and vegetables, he said.
sounds like socialism:wink:

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Wed 03/11/09 03:40 PM
President Obama’s $410 billion spending bill may paradoxically end funding for a cross-border trucking program between Mexico and the U.S. Critics of the program cite safety issues around Mexican trucks, while Mexican officials decry protectionism as policies surrounding the NAFTA trade agreement continue to fall apart.

The L.A. Times:

Congress has hit the brakes on a Bush administration program to give Mexican trucks wider access to U.S. roads, putting President Obama in the middle of a politically sensitive trade dispute.

A $410-billion spending bill that passed the Senate on a voice vote Tuesday would end funding for the cross-border trucking program, one of the most contentious issues to arise out of the 1993 North American Free Trade Agreement.

Critics of the cross-border program—including the Teamsters and lawmakers from both parties—have expressed concern about the safety of Mexican trucks.

Before 2007, Mexican trucks had been limited to a narrow zone north of the border, where they transferred their cargo to American big rigs.

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20090311_bill_puts_brakes_on_mexican_trucks/?ln

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