A concept of Morals

I’m thinking specifically of sexual morals. The pope made the comment that the U.S. was in desperate need of moral guidance. At least, that is how one article worded it. I can’t help but think that was what he was referring to.

There are some other moral issues the U.S. has developed that are ishy. I mean, it has gotten to the point that people think the right to freedom should be right to do whatever you want even if it harms others. That might be going to far.

But really, Most of the sexual morals were really a way to transition from a matrilineal society to a patrilineal one. It was a way to control populations and really, when it all comes down to it, inheritance rights.

There is reasonable and not reasonable. Sex with minors is a no-no is reasonable. Saying that all sex in any other position by missionary is unreasonable. Saying that the only legitimate form of sexual activity is in marriage is unreasonable. That goes back to control of property and money issues.

When it comes down to it, anything that comes down to issues of money and property and inheritance is an unreasonable control of sexuality. Even when hidden under the disguise of religion. Issues that come down to protecting people from exploitation are reasonable controls and laws.

Yeah, the news has been making me think a lot lately.

Sex outside of marriage is immoral. I don't think it should be against the law, but it is immoral.

Sex outside of marriage:
Spreads disease
Creates single parents
Breaks hearts
Raises the divorce rate
Increases poverty
Increases the number of abortions

There is absolutely no social advantage to pre-marital or extra-marital sex. It's a personal decision, but there is definitely a correct choice.

i disagree. i dont think its immoral... i guess this, among other things, would explain why im not deeply religious... i find it hard to believe that something as insignificant as sex before marriage is such a big deal to some ppl... dont we all have more important things to worry about?

Read that list and tell me honestly if pre-marital sex doesn't cause them.

im sorry this may offend but been trying to think how to put it...if the catholic religion is so moral that how can it justify the way the nuns, and priests in its group have acted over the years..yes not all of them i realise that..but.its covered up a hell of alot of immoral behaviour over the years including sexual behaviour from its groups members..its sems to me preaching to the world is ok but making sure its own doorstep is clean isnt...my beliefs so as said dont mean to offend

I didn't say anything about the Catholic church, I'm not Catholic and I don't agree with the whole celebacy thing. But I'm still waiting for someone to deny that pre-marital sex causes the things I posted in my list...

what about if the husband or wife cheat and brings one of those home to pass on to there spouse...and this has happoened through out the ages..even when marriage was the done thing and you stayed together till death do part..cheating happened..or protitutes

Debbie, I totally agree with you.

If people were responsible and used birth control and condoms, then most things on your list would be eliminated.

maybe so..but it isnt immoral...its human nature...wether you decide to be clever or stupid is the question

Birth control is taboo by religious standards in general however. Lack thereof/aka "be fruitful and multiply" in unbridled fashion also increases societal impact of all of the issues you site. I think the real problem we have is overpopulation of the planet.

There are only so many resources to be had.

exactly, its human nature...

LOL, you think that premarital sex is what causes them. I think you need to look closer at extra-marital sex as well. Using religion to control behavior is wrong. Education about not being purely stupid makes more sense. It isn't a religious issue.

Hey Deb:

It just dawned on me that you spell realise with an "s." It makes sense now, as I know you hail from the UK.

That IS the way a proper Englishman/woman spells it now isn't it?

I know they're not immoral. I was just trying to counter his argument that premarital sex caused all of those things.

that wasnt my side, i disagreed with it causing all those things

From my first post...

I got lazy on my later post, but both pre-marital and extra-marital sex would be "sexual immorality".



For Catholics, yes. But most Christians believe that "Go forth and multiply" was a commandment to Adam and Eve, it's not a commandment to all humans.



It would reduce the numbers of some of the items on my list, but none of them would be eliminated.



Yes, it is by definition immoral. Maybe you aren't sure what the definition of immoral is?

i wasnt answering yours hun sorry meant to go on the other posts sorry again..and i agree with you hun

yes it is lol

Sorry, I misunderstood your post.