Wouldee, you seem to be having a serious nervous breakdown lately. I sincerely hope that it’s not the real thing. For several days now you have really lost it.

The last thing that can be said about Jeanniebean is that she is insulting or abusive.

You are name-calling. You just called Jeannie and ass! That’s an absolute violation of humanity not to mention the forum rules, and acceptable etiquette for any respectable person. Yet you are attempting to imply that she is being disrespectful? I think you better get a grip on yourself.

You say to Jeanniebean, “You are uinsulting, and abusive, and an annoying nuisance to suppose that you have any right to sit in judgement of the needs of Christians.”

Well excuse me Mr. Pious High and Mighty,… What do you think the proselytizing of Christianity is????

I tell Christians that I’m a pantheist and I’m happy with my relationship with God.

They laugh and say, “So you think we’re related to monkeys and God is in rocks? You’re nuts!”

Then they start telling me that I need to accept Jesus Christ as my Savior to be forgiven for all the terrible sin that I’ve committed. These people don’t even know me and they are accusing me of having committed terrible sins???

From my point of view they are doing precisely what you are accusing Jeanniebean of doing. They are being insulting and abusive and an annoying nuisance!!! What gives them the right to sit in judgment of the needs of non-Christians????

You see Wouldee all Jeanniebean is doing is holding up a mirror, and when you look in it you become outraged with what you see and you have a nervous breakdown screaming obscenities.

But in truth she isn’t doing anything any differnet from what Christian Proselytizers are doing.

They laugh at pantheists because pantheists believe they are related to monkeys and God is truly omniscient in all of nature.

But the pantheists are laughing at the Christians because they believe that a foolish self-proclaimed jealous God designed a universe in which he ended up having to have himself slaughtered on a pole because he can only be appeased by blood sacrifices???

That’s less stupid then believing that we’re related to monkeys and God is truly omniscient in all of nature.

I don’t think so.

When Christians proselytize Christianity there aren’t doing anything any differnet from what Jeanniebean has proposed in this thread.

What a minute!

Yes they are doing something differnet!!!

Jeanniebean is merely offer information to be read. She doesn’t even say that you must believe it. It’s just information written and complied by humans that she feels people will find enlightening.

Christians on the other hand, aren’t merely promoting a book to be causally read,… they are demanding that people believe it is the word of God!!!

So your accusations that Jeannie is being abusive or insulting is utterly unfounded and laughable.

You’re the one who’s doing all the name calling and making all the slanderous remarks.

Get over yourself Wouldee.

Maybe take a break from the forums for a while if they are upsetting you that much.

I dont know what church you are going too, but mine doesn't really focus on believers and no believers. I also don't blindly follow the churches teaching. I determine what I will and will not believe. The church teaches on the bible and Jesus taught us to love our neighbors as our selves.

I never claimed this idea was strictly held only in the church. Yes many people and religions practice this. It is an important message.

I will now allow you to continue your rant. Have at it.

You must be a Methodist.

I dont know what church you are going too, but mine doesn't really focus on believers and no believers. I also don't blindly follow the churches teaching. I determine what I will and will not believe. The church teaches on the bible and Jesus taught us to love our neighbors as our selves.

I never claimed this idea was strictly held only in the church. Yes many people and religions practice this. It is an important message.

I will now allow you to continue your rant. Have at it.

Actually I am a Catholic.

Wouldee, you seem to be having a serious nervous breakdown lately. I sincerely hope that it’s not the real thing. For several days now you have really lost it.

The last thing that can be said about Jeanniebean is that she is insulting or abusive.

You are name-calling. You just called Jeannie and ass! That’s an absolute violation of humanity not to mention the forum rules, and acceptable etiquette for any respectable person. Yet you are attempting to imply that she is being disrespectful? I think you better get a grip on yourself.

You say to Jeanniebean, “You are uinsulting, and abusive, and an annoying nuisance to suppose that you have any right to sit in judgement of the needs of Christians.”

Well excuse me Mr. Pious High and Mighty,… What do you think the proselytizing of Christianity is????

I tell Christians that I’m a pantheist and I’m happy with my relationship with God.

They laugh and say, “So you think we’re related to monkeys and God is in rocks? You’re nuts!”

Then they start telling me that I need to accept Jesus Christ as my Savior to be forgiven for all the terrible sin that I’ve committed. These people don’t even know me and they are accusing me of having committed terrible sins???

From my point of view they are doing precisely what you are accusing Jeanniebean of doing. They are being insulting and abusive and an annoying nuisance!!! What gives them the right to sit in judgment of the needs of non-Christians????

You see Wouldee all Jeanniebean is doing is holding up a mirror, and when you look in it you become outraged with what you see and you have a nervous breakdown screaming obscenities.

But in truth she isn’t doing anything any differnet from what Christian Proselytizers are doing.

They laugh at pantheists because pantheists believe they are related to monkeys and God is truly omniscient in all of nature.

But the pantheists are laughing at the Christians because they believe that a foolish self-proclaimed jealous God designed a universe in which he ended up having to have himself slaughtered on a pole because he can only be appeased by blood sacrifices???

That’s less stupid then believing that we’re related to monkeys and God is truly omniscient in all of nature.

I don’t think so.

When Christians proselytize Christianity there aren’t doing anything any differnet from what Jeanniebean has proposed in this thread.

What a minute!

Yes they are doing something differnet!!!

Jeanniebean is merely offer information to be read. She doesn’t even say that you must believe it. It’s just information written and complied by humans that she feels people will find enlightening.

Christians on the other hand, aren’t merely promoting a book to be causally read,… they are demanding that people believe it is the word of God!!!

So your accusations that Jeannie is being abusive or insulting is utterly unfounded and laughable.

You’re the one who’s doing all the name calling and making all the slanderous remarks.

Get over yourself Wouldee.

Maybe take a break from the forums for a while if they are upsetting you that much.

I consider all information.

If what you believe is a lie, wouldn't you want to know it?

I would, because I seek truth.

If you truly seek truth, you are not afraid to consider all information.

JB

This is such a ridiculous statement. Do you think that only politicians should go in the political threads? Only Poets in the poet thread? Only Cooks in the Cooking thread?

These places are for people that want to discuss religion. To those of us that see religion as a real threat to society we REALLY REALLY need to discuss religion. We are through letting the religious people be the only ones to give their point of view.
I'm sorry your religion is so threatened by anyone that speaks against it. I would think "God" would be stronger then that. If I really had "God" on my side. I would not be scared to listen to anyone.

peace in truth

Rupunzel,

If you actually have something to say, then please say it. This is a discussion forum not just a place to hit the quote button and post silly icons.

JB

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Thanks for your comment rabbit. By your own admission you are in this forum with an agenda. Your agenda is to condemn Christianity. Your narrow view compells you to lump all Christians in the same gas chamber. Why do you assume I have a religion? First and foremost I am a Christian. I have faith. Wouldee explains my view on churchianity when he speaks of his own view. Sure, anyone is allowed to discuss religion in this forum. You should try it sometime. You are here not to debate but to parade your hatred of Christianity. Childish one line jabs and diatribe do not aid any debate.

This is a perfect exmple of proselytizing anything other than Christianity in the name of christianity.

Abra, both you and jeannie know full well that it is only Christianity that will take issue with evolution.

The proselytizing is clearly antagonistic towards Christians and no other group

There is no clever way to disguise your hatreds.

You have entered into her diatribe as she does yours; in lockstep. What a d3eceitfulk dance.

When will you get it?

Make your opinions and your beliefs known without climbing over Christianity to do it.

What church is there for pantheism or witchcraft that warrants a secular writer publishing his ilk to such a licentious and marginal group of extremists as those in your belief system?

The economics of that alone would cause refrain of such a book being published.

No, Abra, you are not offended, nor is Jeannie, but you both insist on insulting Christians and Christianity at every step.

I hope you wear out this word soon because you are proselytizing more than Christians ever do.

Believe what you like, no one is stopping you.

Quit veiling your contempt for Christianity and your indefensible rants that cannot seem to step away from insulting Others while doing so.

Surely, there must be a way to get the word out without drawing the Church and Christianity into it.

This book is not one of thpose things, Abra.


Let's remained focused here and not get personal.

This book is an insulting and contemptible ploy when employed here as enlightenment.

It is but a =nother clever and veiled attack that seeks to only mock Christianity and drag some poor unsuspecting and immature and naive believer into this thread to be devoured by your deceitful tactics and feed on their ignorance.

Ultimately, you have shown that you can justify crying foul when you are called on that snipe.


But, dear Abra, that is not going to happen.

Those days are over.

You and Jeannie would do well to understab=nd that your beilefs are one thing.

But they do not and will not stand as crediible when it requires the mocking of Christianity to preach and proseytize your message, which is all you are really doing.

Christians, born again and filled with the Holy Spirit will teach what constitutes Christianity.

Not you.

Not Jeannie.

Not anyone other than who and what constitutes a Christian.


This book is only argumentative and meant to create strife as presented in this thread.

Please keep the context of this intact.

Evolution and the Church are oxymoronic concepts.

Christianity is truth to Christians. And the requirement to be born again to be a Christian is a fact that that also flies in the face of evolution.

Evolution is unproven conjecture to everyone and a religion to some, but it is not truth and it is not fact.

And it is utterly prepostreous to suggest as sincerity that this book is going to help anyone choose a church when it is only a mockery of Christianity veiled in conjecture and wishful thinking.

get over yoursaelves already, please.

Be nice.

cut the deceitfulness


Play it straight.

Really, you two.

You attempt was valiant...it's certainly not for their benefit but the benefit of the unsuspecting who might believe those lies if they weren't given another point of view.

I really hope all will test God's Word, if they did they would know it's true.

You just told me that you "Okay whatever Spider. I really don't have the time to dissect history or debate about who killed who ~~ or when."

I really don't think you want to know the truth, you want to know what is easy.

Why don't you start a thread about the true history of religions in general then ~~~~ and be sure to site all your sources and we can get into the details there.

I know there are always two sides to any conflict and war and there are usually evil and good people behind these on both sides.

No religion is perfect. People aren't perfect either.

I would also like to know what you think the difference is between what people are calling Churchianity and Christianity and how you separate the two.

Perhaps in another thread.

JB

Thanks for your comment rabbit. By your own admission you are in this forum with an agenda. Your agenda is to condemn Christianity. Your narrow view compells you to lump all Christians in the same gas chamber. Why do you assume I have a religion? First and foremost I am a Christian. I have faith. Wouldee explains my view on churchianity when he speaks of his own view. Sure, anyone is allowed to discuss religion in this forum. You should try it sometime. You are here not to debate but to parade your hatred of Christianity. Childish one line jabs and diatribe do not aid any debate.

Well actually...you just want to intellectualize God. It's no wonder why you don't "get it." Christians are not put here to debate or have continuos contentious arguements about God.

Some people here are trying to EXPRESS their faith but others just want to trash their beliefs & challenge them on it. I suggest that you cease from that if that's all you want to do...this is a distraction from the true sharing of faith by those who are in the know.

thanks .... :)

I suggest that you cease from that if that's all you want to do...this is a distraction from the true sharing of faith by those who are in the know.

Wow and Christians are complaining they are being persecuted in the USA today.The woman recommended a book people,read it or not who cares.People like you is why I seek God in everyday acts and nature because He can't be in your narrow minded souls.
A lot of people ignore me here because I don't use big words or they think I'm stupid.Thank God.