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Topic: Was Jesus Black or White?
Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/08/07 05:09 PM
A lie is something wrongful said on purpose, hence the church's hanging one or the other is a mistaken view, not a lie, not todays church anyway. Don't get me wrong, the false prophets are out there, selling our love as hate, but the whole issue of Jesus' race is more of a mistaken identity than a lie. Most churchs hang pictures of white Jesus, because it's what image has been handed down to 'em, hence it's what they know as Jesus' race. Some churchs hang pictures of black Jesus because they believe it is a more accurate image. Both of these cases aren't lying, they're just mistaken IMO. But here we come again to the danger of images concerning the prophets, the truth gets skewed because of time & people end up debating the issue so much they don't take nearly as much time to actualy contribute to our mission;^]

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/08/07 05:20 PM

If the church today can't look at something as simple as this and set it straight. How can they possibly be the seat of all truth?

Turtlepoet78's photo
Sat 12/08/07 05:35 PM
Edited by Turtlepoet78 on Sat 12/08/07 06:08 PM
The church isn't a single church, differant churchs have differant policies and differant beliefs. The "church", as in the streotype of a single church view, is not the seat of truth. The actions and the teachings of Christ are the seat of truth for myself and loads of other christians likewise. The church is more for us as NA is for drug addicts, it's a support group from the temptations we face everyday. A place for us to get together, study and give praise to the lord. Careful using subjective terms like "seat of truth" when you classify all churchs together;^]

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/08/07 06:19 PM

So then the Bible tells you the answer to this question?

adj4u's photo
Sat 12/08/07 07:03 PM

Someone on the web mentioned that [paraphrasing] "Jews function as a race, so they are a race, regardless of what modern science calls them." Indeed. Jews are more cohesive and unified than any other ethnic group, so that is a great description of the Jews. Thanks, somebody.

Furthermore, the word "White" means White European. In other words, a White person's ancestors originally came from a White European country, such as England, Germany, France, etc. Some Jews may appear to be White. In other words, they may have light-colored skin and light-colored hair. That does not make them White, however. Only genetics makes a person White. The Jews are not genetically White. [One of the reasons that the Jews have been so successful in the Western countries is that they sometimes appear to be White].

White gentiles should hopefully be able to recognize Jewish people based upon their physical appearance, but granted, this is not always possible. However, Jews often have features that identify them as being Jewish by race. The majority of Jews do share common physical features -- especially in their faces and/or craniums [skulls].


http://wsi.matriots.com/What%20is%20a%20Jew.html

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/08/07 07:14 PM

adj4u I think you mistakenly got your info from some kind White nationalist website.

adj4u's photo
Sat 12/08/07 07:19 PM
could be

but i do not

think a white nationalist

would say not white

but what do i know

adj4u's photo
Sat 12/08/07 07:23 PM
The fact is that as Jews, whether one is descended by maternal lineage from those who stood at Mount Sinai and accepted the Torah from Hashem, or whether one is a proper, full convert, or whether one is maternally descended from a proper, full convert, we are required to fulfill the Commandments of the Torah to the best of our abilities, and thus achieve self-actualization, holiness, and closeness to Hashem.

Words like "ethnicity," "religion," or even "race" are completely irrelevant to our obligations in this life. That's not the path to pursue. What is important is each individual's personal relationship with Hashem, and our relationship with Hashem as a People, as well as our relationships with our communities (roughly in that order)

http://www.beingjewish.com/identity/race.html


first line second paragraph

Words like "ethnicity," "religion," or even "race" are completely irrelevant

like i said

what does it matter

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/08/07 07:30 PM
Jesus didnt have DNA so his race would be hard to determine..i think each individual has a picture in their head of what Jesus looked like but the representations we see now are what you would call poetic license.

yzrabbit1's photo
Sat 12/08/07 09:26 PM

Yeah I agree I think the whole book is one big "poetic License"

to bad no one got the hint

Jess642's photo
Sat 12/08/07 09:28 PM
Well the latest depiction I have seen of Jesus is he's blue, smurf blue, with a slot on the back of his neck, and a bung at the bottom..


And Buddha is purple, with the same slot and bung.... and they are fuzzy, but don't glow in the dark...grumble grumble

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/08/07 09:29 PM
some did .i think the Bible raises more questions then it answers but then maybe i dont have the right code..

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 12/08/07 09:30 PM

Well the latest depiction I have seen of Jesus is he's blue, smurf blue, with a slot on the back of his neck, and a bung at the bottom..


And Buddha is purple, with the same slot and bung.... and they are fuzzy, but don't glow in the dark...grumble grumble


as long as he's not an Oompa Loompa ....they scare me huh

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/08/07 09:30 PM

Well the latest depiction I have seen of Jesus is he's blue, smurf blue, with a slot on the back of his neck, and a bung at the bottom..


And Buddha is purple, with the same slot and bung.... and they are fuzzy, but don't glow in the dark...grumble grumble

omg we drink at the same tiki lounge!!laugh

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 12/08/07 09:32 PM


Well the latest depiction I have seen of Jesus is he's blue, smurf blue, with a slot on the back of his neck, and a bung at the bottom..


And Buddha is purple, with the same slot and bung.... and they are fuzzy, but don't glow in the dark...grumble grumble


as long as he's not an Oompa Loompa ....they scare me huh


yes singing orange people would cause me to check in to the cuckoo farm.

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