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whether or not God is real?
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I just believe he is..have too
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Totaly beleive in god.no dout about him.
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nope
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it is "absolutely impossible" for god to prove to anyone of his existence "absolutely" that they would "absolutely know" that he is their particular god ...and that's why all a believer could ever do is to follow their religion blindly and ask no questions or claim spirituality in an attempt to deny that they actually have religious beliefs
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it is "absolutely impossible" for god to prove to anyone of his existence "absolutely" that they would "absolutely know" that he is their particular god ...and that's why all a believer could ever do is to follow their religion blindly and ask no questions or claim spirituality in an attempt to deny that they actually have religious beliefs These are the most absurd words I have ever heard uttered by any animalistic beast. Of course it's possible to know God. No doctrine required, just look everywhere and you'll know I am that I am.  |
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No, I do not yearn for that particular knowledge. The fact that I know he/she/it does not exist, does not take any of the wonder of life or the amazing qualities of this world away from me at all. My spirit is free to feel and experience all this life has to offer good and bad.
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I AM REAL. God is. But to call God a 'HE' presumes too much already. To call God a 'SHE' presumes too much also. We exist don't we? I know I do. There you have it. God. |
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But to call God a 'HE' presumes too much already. To call God a 'SHE' presumes too much also. I often refer to God as a 'SHE' in much the same way that we refer to Mother Earth, or Mother Nature, etc. It doesn't truly imply gender, it's just metaphorical. Better than referring to God as an "it" or as "I AM" which get's the Christian's all bent out of shape because they think "I AM" refers to an egotistical godhead who is a "HE" and who becomes quite jealous and emotional all the time. It suprises me that there is no personal pronoun to refer to someone without indicating sex. You'd think there would be just because people might like to refer to someone who's gender they may not know. There's nothing left but use the word "it". So rather than call God an "it", or refer to God as "I AM", and get the Christians all distraught, it's better to call God, "Her". At least that way they know I'm not talking about the biblical picture of God which is always a "He". |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 05/14/08 11:20 AM
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But to call God a 'HE' presumes too much already. To call God a 'SHE' presumes too much also. I often refer to God as a 'SHE' in much the same way that we refer to Mother Earth, or Mother Nature, etc. It doesn't truly imply gender, it's just metaphorical. Better than referring to God as an "it" or as "I AM" which get's the Christian's all bent out of shape because they think "I AM" refers to an egotistical godhead who is a "HE" and who becomes quite jealous and emotional all the time. It suprises me that there is no personal pronoun to refer to someone without indicating sex. You'd think there would be just because people might like to refer to someone who's gender they may not know. There's nothing left but use the word "it". So rather than call God an "it", or refer to God as "I AM", and get the Christians all distraught, it's better to call God, "Her". At least that way they know I'm not talking about the biblical picture of God which is always a "He". The leading Edge Research group (Val Valarian) invented a pronoun for that purpose. Shim (a cross between she and him) I don't mind using "It" or "I Am." If someone gets bent out of shape that's not my problem.  "I am" is something that people say all the time, and it just seems natural to me, and it refers to the true God that dwells within. My little brother was about five years old, and he was in deep thought. He asked me, "What am I?" (He did not ask "Who am I..") I said "You are a little boy." That answer did not satisfy him. He said, "I know that, but I mean "WHAT am I?" It was a very good question. JB |
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whether or not God is real? Growing up in the church I ALWAYS wondered whether or not God was actually real or if we were just vainly going through the motions of pointless ritual. After moving from home I was sure I was convinced God was NOT real. Slowly through life experience, I started to acknowlege that there MIGHT a higher power and began my debates with "born again" christians and "true" christians about their theology. Eventually, in a way that only God can, in a way that would only make sense to me, God revealed himself and I have no choice to not only BELIEVE God is real....I KNOW without a doubt GOD is indeed REAL! Sorry "born again" christians and "true" christians....you don't get the credit. God did it all on his own. Unfortunately, those well meaning "born again" and "true" who were trying so desperately to "save" me actually ended up delaying my realization of his exsistance because I refused to acknowledge a God that was vengful and unjust. So plead with all those who are out there trying to save the world and help them find Jesus, be careful! Jesus isn't lost. He knows exactly where he is and where the world is. Let him meet them where they are at. He knows what he is doing.....he found you didn't he? |
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it is "absolutely impossible" for god to prove to anyone of his existence "absolutely" that they would "absolutely know" that he is their particular god ...and that's why all a believer could ever do is to follow their religion blindly and ask no questions or claim spirituality in an attempt to deny that they actually have religious beliefs These are the most absurd words I have ever heard uttered by any animalistic beast. Of course it's possible to know God. No doctrine required, just look everywhere and you'll know I am that I am. Abracadabra that you can look around doesn't prove that god is real..it only proves that you have the ability to look around and that you wouldn't know god even if you tripped over him |
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I AM REAL. God is. But to call God a 'HE' presumes too much already. To call God a 'SHE' presumes too much also. We exist don't we? I know I do. There you have it. God. it always been politically correct to call god a "he" and a goddess a "she" |
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Abracadabra that you can look around doesn't prove that god is real..it only proves that you have the ability to look around and that you wouldn't know god even if you tripped over him With all due respect Funches you're such a silly beast if you think a person can trip over God.  You sound like the Christians.  Like as if God is 'out there' somewhere. 
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whether or not God is real? I already know that
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With all due respect Funches you're such a silly beast if you think a person can trip over God. well "Abracadabra" if you believe god is everywhere and everything...then doesn't that include things people trip over You sound like the Christians. now if I said that I worshipped a God then maybe I would sound like a christian but let's face it that it is you that are in denial about worshipping the christian god aren't Pantheist just a splinter christian sect Like as if God is 'out there' somewhere. well rest assure that the ones that worship him are out there ... somewhere |
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now if I said that I worshipped a God then maybe I would sound like a christian but let's face it that it is you that are in denial about worshipping the christian god aren't Pantheist just a splinter christian sect Hardly. If a pantheist "worships" God it's an act of pure love done only because the pantheist chooses to do it and for no other reason. There is nothing in pantheism that says that God would even care to be "worshiped". In fact, most pantheists probably wouldn't even use the word "worship". Or if they did the would simply mean in as term of deep reverence and love. Christians on the other hand have no choice but to worship their God. The biblical God demands to be worshipped. There's no two ways about. In the Christians sense, the term "Worship" doesn't simply mean to love and revere, it actually mean to cower down to and obey. The biblical God demands to be appeased, worshiped, and obeyed. Many Christians will tell you that they worship the Christian God out of pure love. But even if what they claim is true (which is most likely isn't anyway), it still doesn’t change the fact that their God demands to be worshiped. I personally believe that they just claim to love their God because they are scared to death of what might happen to them if they don't pretend to love it. The Pantheistic God don't have an ego. It doesn't demand anything from anyone. I don't worship the pantheistic God. Although in some ways I wish I did, because to worship the pantheistic God would require that I worship myself. And that would have been quite fruitful. Unfortunately I spent the first half of my life worshiping a false manmade God. Then by the time I realized my true nature it was too late to do a whole heck of a lot about it. I wasted my life worshiping a mythological idol. |
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now if I said that I worshipped a God then maybe I would sound like a christian but let's face it that it is you that are in denial about worshipping the christian god aren't Pantheist just a splinter christian sect Hardly. If a pantheist "worships" God it's an act of pure love done only because the pantheist chooses to do it and for no other reason. There is nothing in pantheism that says that God would even care to be "worshiped". In fact, most pantheists probably wouldn't even use the word "worship". Or if they did the would simply mean in as term of deep reverence and love. Christians on the other hand have no choice but to worship their God. The biblical God demands to be worshipped. There's no two ways about. In the Christians sense, the term "Worship" doesn't simply mean to love and revere, it actually mean to cower down to and obey. The biblical God demands to be appeased, worshiped, and obeyed. Many Christians will tell you that they worship the Christian God out of pure love. But even if what they claim is true (which is most likely isn't anyway), it still doesn’t change the fact that their God demands to be worshiped. I personally believe that they just claim to love their God because they are scared to death of what might happen to them if they don't pretend to love it. The Pantheistic God don't have an ego. It doesn't demand anything from anyone. I don't worship the pantheistic God. Although in some ways I wish I did, because to worship the pantheistic God would require that I worship myself. And that would have been quite fruitful. Unfortunately I spent the first half of my life worshiping a false manmade God. Then by the time I realized my true nature it was too late to do a whole heck of a lot about it. I wasted my life worshiping a mythological idol. James, I would just disagree big time with your use of the word "demand." No further argument because you know what you know, and I know what I know. |
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The Pantheistic God don't have an ego. It doesn't demand anything from anyone. all god have egos ...or their name would be joe or fred not god |
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The Pantheistic God don't have an ego. It doesn't demand anything from anyone. all god have egos ...or their name would be joe or fred not god funches can i say in one sentence to define your position that: There is no God whatsoever? |
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