Because of another thread (.. http://mingle2.com/topic/show/135625 ..)

...I had another rather abstract thought about what "sin" might represent, and the reason humans have to "slaughter" animals (and plants) and eat them for energy.

It is said that in "heaven" the lion will lie down with the lamb. This implies that the lion will not be required to kill the lamb and eat it for energy in the higher frequency worlds, which means that energy for living is attained directly from a source other than the consuming of each other.

I am thinking this is because energy in the higher worlds (or the heavens) is exchanged or acquired in more subtle ways than individuals having to devour each other.

Therefore, the meaning of "sin" could point to the event that you heard about which is referred to "the fall" or the "fall of mankind."

This "fall" could mean the lowering of frequency which resulted in the density of matter.

This density of matter requires more intense and emediate energy than can simply be absorbed from the sun or other subtle energy sources.

The requirement to intake food in the form of animal flesh and even fruits and vegetables for energy to sustain the dense human life forms could be represented the ritual "sacrifice" of an animal for food in exchange for continued life.

Since all things (in the pantheistic view) are considered part of the body of god, then we are indeed "god eaters" or in the process of consuming our own body.

This process could be what resulted in the thing scientist call "entropy" and could be what is meant by the scripture,"the wages of sin is death."

This entropy could be another word for "sin."

We (human consciousness) fell so far away from our true spiritual nature, we succeeded in creating the illusion of separation from it, and the price to pay for that action is entropy and decay (death) and the need to consume each other in order to even survive in this dense world.

The stories of the saviors who died for mankind could represent the sacrifices that are made to sustain life in this dense world.

This is just an abstract idea about the meaning of "sin" and "sacrifice" from the point of view of a spiritual pantheists.

JB

Except there was no sin until Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. So if there was no sin then they still would have been at your higher frequency and therefore have had no need to eat.

Yikes!! Literally, food for thought!!

Meanwhile, all of the goodness of the Holy Spirit given in Jesus' name is still wanting.

There is so much in store waiting for everyone, just with the relinquishing of the will to Christ's lead.

It is so simple and so enriching and so rewarding to know that the questions and contemplations are uselessly delaying the presence of the moment in Christ.

Get some of this.

Seriously, it is a beautiful thing.

That mythical story is probably representative of something completely different. The eating of the fruit is (could be) the symbolic "turning away from the spiritual self" and becoming lost in the flesh and the pleasure of the physical senses and sex and other temptations of the flesh.

Since the vibrations and frequency are generated from consciousness, (according to my pantheistic view) and in consideration of my holographic universe model, the persons of Adam and Eve lowered their frequency and their bodies became more dense, more physical, more like the primitive humans of the earth, when before they were a superior species being introduced to the earth by their creators.

So from my perspective, that story was symbolic, but not entirely without merit.

JB

it says in genisis that on the seveth day god completed his work and all was good meaning everytrhing was perfect, sin had not yet entered into the heart of man until the decieveing of satan and the fall of adam and eve but the bible also says in the begining man meaning man and women had athority over all and all animals were given for food and all green plants and all fruit

Although I do not dismiss completely the information in scripture, or any information for that matter, I do not ~by a long stretch ~ take it detail by detail as truth.

I look at the implications and look for the validity of the stories as a whole, knowing full well that there are more untruths than truths in every writing.

JB