Topic: More: How much is missing?
MikeMontana's photo
Tue 03/27/07 08:44 PM
Grphyn started a fun thread about what is missing from our current
Bible. I posted a lengthy reply discussing the accuracy of the text that
we have (I say VERY historically accurate), and I dissed the political
choosing of which books make up our bible.

Anyway, I realized something tonite, that there are very clearly missing
parts of the bible. For example, Jesus and Paul often make absurd
quotations, (like Paul writing "Women keep your heads covered - dont you
know the angel's fall?") these quotations are from the Book of Enoch
which fell out of favor around the time of Constantine (by political
legislation). Once you read that book, many of the "obscure" quotes that
appear in the NewTestament suddenly make sense, and take on a deeper
context.

Even so, you may argue that these books are "not worthy" of being
considered Cannon. Ok, maybe. But, there are also books that are just
plainly missing - For example, there are two books of Corinthians
missing. How do we know? Because the two books of Corinthians that we
have make references to 2 missing letters. In other words, there were at
least 4 letters written by Paul to the Church at Corinth. We have the
2nd and 4th letter - nobody knows what the 1st and 3rd letters
contained.

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 03/27/07 09:26 PM
Most excellent Mike. Some historians view the Lillith story as a
missing text from Genisis. Depending of which "myth" you read about it,
it actually adds so much to the book of Genisis that it almost seems
ashame that the story is missing. It explains a different view of why
Adam and Eve were Banished from the Garden of Eden, it even explains
were all the population came from, in future stories. It certainly was
not possible for Adam and Eve to have populated the world AS HUMANS NO
LONGER IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN. So yes, missing portions of the
Bible might add a huge amount of information upholding, changing or even
destroying certain accepted issues of faith and it laws.

Gryphyn's photo
Tue 03/27/07 09:35 PM
Glad to see others curious as to where some of the books disappeared to.
Like you mike I have often wodered about different works of faith, and
history. I hope if anyone finds info on some of these books to let us
know. Personally the hunt is enjoyable and it might turn up some mundane
ideas we can banter about.bigsmile

G

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 03/27/07 10:04 PM
I agree Gryph. By the way I just want to say I adore the pic you
posted. It always provides me with a beautiful picture of how wonderful
nature is. Always glad to see it when I pull up a topic. thanks

netuserlla's photo
Wed 03/28/07 04:18 AM
There is probly alot missing that we don't even know about, but I do
know that it is logical to assume that they are missing
books,eg.examples that you have given. The first books of the new
testament tells the same stories over and over, just from a different
point of view. Maybe they were also other written point of views.

no photo
Wed 03/28/07 05:56 AM
i have read as many of these lost books as i can find, and in my opinion
there is nothing earth changing or covered up in them. havent really
studied them heavily, more of an overview. In my opinion, there books
that have some interesting stories, but that basicly confirm the rest of
the bible. I personally ilke the infancy. Its about Jesus's early
childhood, a subject that is strangely lacking in the Bible. He is born,
then we hear little until he starts his ministry. FROM A BIBLICAL
STANDPOINT, I GUESS THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE. caps button, not my emphasis
lol

MikeMontana's photo
Wed 03/28/07 07:57 PM
Whoooa everyone hold up a second. The "missing stuff" isnt locked up in
a secret chamber somewhere. Its available - you can buy entire books
with the entire collection of the "missing books". They're boring,
academic, and just as hard to read as the King James Bible ("wherefore
thou are thee to my dearest thine...") Its also freely available on the
web.

Point is, like Gryph suggested, its a fun ride, easy to find, and
occasionally there's a gem of insight.


Red: Your commentary about Lillith exists in the Oral Tradition of the
Pentatauch.

MikeMontana's photo
Wed 03/28/07 08:01 PM
Here's whats missing from the modern cannon of scripture:

http://www.gnosis.org/library.html

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 03/28/07 08:45 PM
Damn, Mike I swear I was on that web site the same time you were writing
this post. It's a good one, lots of intersting information.

no photo
Wed 03/28/07 10:02 PM
OK.You guys know my views on this by now, right? Mike, I have to admit,
I have read the book of Enoch, [or at least some of it ]and it is the
most interesting, and like you say it does clarifie some things that it
paralells.
You are also correct about the Coprinthian letters...there are probably
many, many letters penned by the apostle Paul, to churches and church
leaders, that never were reproduced or anything.... Why? I believe it is
simply because the themes an the personal nature of them did not need to
be in the canon.
The Word says that all scripture is useful.....to edify and teach.
Maybe the " missing " letters were only useful to the recipients on a
personal level.
Once again, God protects His Word