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Topic: BLACKS VS WHITES In AMERICA
willfen's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:40 PM
Sorry about the title - just wanted to grab your attention.

I just wanted to open up this dialogue because I like to get my information from the 'horse's mouth' so to speak.

I just want you guys to give any opinion you want on race and racism. Does it exist? Does it no longer exist? Was it ever or is it still justified?

Do you believe that Blacks makes a bunch of excuses to draw attention away from their own apathy and laziness?

Do you believe that Whites hide in suburbia and refuse to admit that racism exists today, even though every other person they know or are related to is racist?

I am just throwing topics out there to stimulate your mind.....these are very relevant issues to thousands of people in America to this very day.

I encourage all to express their opinion. It doesn't matter in this forum if you are racist, bigoted, Black, White, Male, Female, whatever...ALL can speak without recrimination from myself at least.

I do want to ask that you follow my ONLY rule: Please be respectful. If someone says something you don't like....do not get personal, or nasty... or get in your feelings. It is my belief that the only reason racism exists is because we let personal feelings get in the way of objective reasoning and logic.

With that.....let's chat!

no photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:41 PM
no opinion here, live and let live.

MatthewB1983's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:42 PM
not touching this sorry

MeandMyK9's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:43 PM
Edited by MeandMyK9 on Tue 09/30/08 03:43 PM

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:46 PM
You know what a relevant issue is? The current election, and it has this uncanny drawback of being a lot like American Idol...discrimination still exists in a lot of the world, that is a fact. Personally black, white, purple, yellow, or pink...it doesn't matter they all suffer from laziness in one way or another. Some use the environment as an excuse, which is easily changed (I did) other's use heritage, ethnicity, and/or color...in the end they are just excuses, in the United States you can pretty much do what you set out to do but they aren't going to hold your hand if one day you decide it is too hard.

willfen's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:47 PM
For those who 'choose' to believe that this is too 'touchy'...do you believe having a discussion like this is meaningless? That nothing can be gained from it? Just curious

laughsandgiggles's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:47 PM
A very thought provoking topic and it will be interesting to see how many people respond

You might not get alot of people willing to express their opinions on it though.

I know Im just not willing to go there- sorry.

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RKISIT's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:49 PM
ya'll take all of our ugly white women away, so cheersdrinker drinker drinker drinker jk peoplebigsmile

willfen's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:51 PM

You know what a relevant issue is? The current election, and it has this uncanny drawback of being a lot like American Idol...discrimination still exists in a lot of the world, that is a fact. Personally black, white, purple, yellow, or pink...it doesn't matter they all suffer from laziness in one way or another. Some use the environment as an excuse, which is easily changed (I did) other's use heritage, ethnicity, and/or color...in the end they are just excuses, in the United States you can pretty much do what you set out to do but they aren't going to hold your hand if one day you decide it is too hard.


Good point....Isn't it amazing that one race gets accused of being 'lazy' by another race..like that race doesn't have lazy people? These traits.....liking chicken, watermelon, won't work, etc...are indicative of being human, not being a certain race....I wish people would get that.

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:53 PM


You know what a relevant issue is? The current election, and it has this uncanny drawback of being a lot like American Idol...discrimination still exists in a lot of the world, that is a fact. Personally black, white, purple, yellow, or pink...it doesn't matter they all suffer from laziness in one way or another. Some use the environment as an excuse, which is easily changed (I did) other's use heritage, ethnicity, and/or color...in the end they are just excuses, in the United States you can pretty much do what you set out to do but they aren't going to hold your hand if one day you decide it is too hard.


Good point....Isn't it amazing that one race gets accused of being 'lazy' by another race..like that race doesn't have lazy people? These traits.....liking chicken, watermelon, won't work, etc...are indicative of being human, not being a certain race....I wish people would get that.


Actually it would be culture...race is human.

willfen's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:53 PM

ya'll take all of our ugly white women away, so cheersdrinker drinker drinker drinker jk peoplebigsmile


You must know all my uncles and their 'new girlfriends'....lol

willfen's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:54 PM



You know what a relevant issue is? The current election, and it has this uncanny drawback of being a lot like American Idol...discrimination still exists in a lot of the world, that is a fact. Personally black, white, purple, yellow, or pink...it doesn't matter they all suffer from laziness in one way or another. Some use the environment as an excuse, which is easily changed (I did) other's use heritage, ethnicity, and/or color...in the end they are just excuses, in the United States you can pretty much do what you set out to do but they aren't going to hold your hand if one day you decide it is too hard.


Good point....Isn't it amazing that one race gets accused of being 'lazy' by another race..like that race doesn't have lazy people? These traits.....liking chicken, watermelon, won't work, etc...are indicative of being human, not being a certain race....I wish people would get that.


Actually it would be culture...race is human.
I stand corrected...but the point is the same

flame1cutie's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:54 PM
Not going there.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:58 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 09/30/08 03:58 PM
I believe that people are people.

No more, no less.



talldub's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:00 PM
Of course racism is alive and well. It'll take many more generations of different races living together before they actually get it into their thick skulls that we are all human and equals.

And for the record, I am not not racist, I loath everyone regardless of age, race or sex!

DeusExMachina's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:01 PM
Racism like any other form of discrimination does exist and will always exist. Although great strides have been made in to change the social norm of discrimination in the western world it is sadly our very nature to discriminate. Naturally through the very instinct of survival a living organism with even the slightest form of intelligence categorizes objects and other living organisms. Sometimes consciously and other times subconsciously. Although social values and norms can be changed through personal experience. For instance a dog is a natural predator to a cat. In the natural state the dog and the cat will follow the predator/prey class. However if a dog and a cat are raised together at birth there social hierarchy can change due to outside influence, which can avert their very genetic nature. Human beings have a natural survival instinct to classify everything as “different” rather it be physical or even social as something to take with caution or to avoid. Its only through life experiences and even education can this opinion be changed. Discrimination goes so far beyond the racial perspective and its, because like it or not it’s a natural survival instinct.

ledi180's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:01 PM
I think it's a mixture of all of that. You've got folks who are outwardly racist, those that say they aren't but really are and those that believe people are just people. On the other hand you've got african americans who wanna get something from folks because of the color of their skin and you've got other just trying to live and enjoy their life in the skin they're in. I know that all races have good people and bad people, ignorant people and kind hearted people.

Can't we all just get along? :wink:
JMO

no photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:02 PM
Yes racism is still alive my opinion is it's on both side as well. jmo

willfen's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:03 PM
It is your choice to be 'politically correct' on this subject, but once again, it gives validity to some peoples views that Whites like to hide and be in denial.

I am well traveled and well educated..I have been in the homes and sat at the dinner tables of people who have had large oil paintings of Klansmen with a sawed-off shotguns in one hand and a noose in the other. I have been in towns and cities where I was the first Black man a child or teenager saw. Unfortunately as a teenager, I took a traveling sales job and was harassed throughout the neighborhood by teens in cars shouting, "Don't buy anything from the Ni**er!"

These were part of many life experiences dealing with race and racism and I have always sought to bridge the gaps between us. I believe dialogue goes a lot further than silence in public, with a bunch of murmuring in the background..
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briancarr's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:03 PM

Sorry about the title - just wanted to grab your attention.

I just wanted to open up this dialogue because I like to get my information from the 'horse's mouth' so to speak.

I just want you guys to give any opinion you want on race and racism. Does it exist? Does it no longer exist? Was it ever or is it still justified?

Do you believe that Blacks makes a bunch of excuses to draw attention away from their own apathy and laziness?

Do you believe that Whites hide in suburbia and refuse to admit that racism exists today, even though every other person they know or are related to is racist?

I am just throwing topics out there to stimulate your mind.....these are very relevant issues to thousands of people in America to this very day.

I encourage all to express their opinion. It doesn't matter in this forum if you are racist, bigoted, Black, White, Male, Female, whatever...ALL can speak without recrimination from myself at least.

I do want to ask that you follow my ONLY rule: Please be respectful. If someone says something you don't like....do not get personal, or nasty... or get in your feelings. It is my belief that the only reason racism exists is because we let personal feelings get in the way of objective reasoning and logic.

With that.....let's chat!
In my opinion, and experience, its alive,and well. Some of it is out in the open, and some, you have to look for the signs. I think People in general make excuses for their short commings, or too gain some type of reward. The bad thing is, it makes it hard for people that are real Victims. A lot of people keep their heads burried in the sand, so they dont Rock the Boat, or for their own Safety. At times the Race Card is played to much. People are afraid too give their honest opinions, because they will be called a Racist. Eventhough it said that the only people that can be Racist are those who have Control, and Power( In this Country, that would be Whites), I believe other Races are guilty of Racism also.

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