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Topic: christmas is a blasphemous pagan holiday.
TelephoneMan's photo
Wed 11/19/08 01:53 PM

christmas is an abomination and is full of lies. it is not Yahshua's birthday, it is Tammuz birthday, the pagan sun god. Yahshua was not born during the winter soltice. YHWH(Almighty God) hates christmas. Dont celebrate this pagan holiday otherwise you will be worshipping the sun. Jeremiah 10


ummmm... "Merry Christmas"....

or, should it be more politically correct for you if I say... "Merry X-mas", then we can just take Jesus out of it all together...

... yes, that is much better for some...

..But as for me and my house, its gonna stay "Merry Christmas"...

...with a big fat CHRIST stuck right in the middle there....

TelephoneMan's photo
Wed 11/19/08 02:04 PM

Ever wonder what your christmas celebrations would be like during the winter solstice of 2012 ? indifferent indifferent

Icecream with that cake ?:tongue:


Are you one of these false-prophet-listening nut cases who think they have it all figured out that the world is going to end in 2012?

If you believe that hogwash, I guess we can all just take our Romper Room play scissors and cut out the verse that says:

Matthew 24:36
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Lady, no one, not even YOU are going to know the time or the day.

Sounds like you need to get back to simply reading the BIBLE and not Nostradamus or some other weird-o false prophet, etc, etc, etc... and book outside of the Bible to come to your conclusions....

Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God (i.e.THE BIBLE....)

Not by listening to false prophets waggle their tongues about the end of the world.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 11/19/08 02:32 PM


Ever wonder what your christmas celebrations would be like during the winter solstice of 2012 ? indifferent indifferent

Icecream with that cake ?:tongue:


Are you one of these false-prophet-listening nut cases who think they have it all figured out that the world is going to end in 2012?

If you believe that hogwash, I guess we can all just take our Romper Room play scissors and cut out the verse that says:

Matthew 24:36
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Lady, no one, not even YOU are going to know the time or the day.

Sounds like you need to get back to simply reading the BIBLE and not Nostradamus or some other weird-o false prophet, etc, etc, etc... and book outside of the Bible to come to your conclusions....

Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God (i.e.THE BIBLE....)

Not by listening to false prophets waggle their tongues about the end of the world.



I believe you have jumped to the wrong conclusion here.

That is not what she is saying at all.

It is closer to what you are saying.

xmas is at that time. so take your cake and eat it to is refering to the false beliefs of 2012 and the pagan Holiday that is prefered over the commandments of Yahweh.

It is what is called a "strong delusion" sent to those who prefer the commandments of men


Yamin's photo
Wed 11/19/08 02:48 PM
Edited by Yamin on Wed 11/19/08 02:49 PM


christmas is an abomination and is full of lies. it is not Yahshua's birthday, it is Tammuz birthday, the pagan sun god. Yahshua was not born during the winter soltice. YHWH(Almighty God) hates christmas. Dont celebrate this pagan holiday otherwise you will be worshipping the sun. Jeremiah 10


ummmm... "Merry Christmas"....

or, should it be more politically correct for you if I say... "Merry X-mas", then we can just take Jesus out of it all together...

... yes, that is much better for some...

..But as for me and my house, its gonna stay "Merry Christmas"...

...with a big fat CHRIST stuck right in the middle there....

Knock yourself out with your idols of (Jesus) carved images, and your photos of (Jesus) since you so believe that to be his likeness. Worship the idols just as the children of Yisrael did when they were in the desert, and see where it will get you. You,just as many others have your own god, you rather worship a statue made of stone or wood rather than the Creator, thats your choice and you will answer for that. I hope you have a good explanation.:wink:

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Wed 11/19/08 06:31 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 11/19/08 06:33 PM



christmas is an abomination and is full of lies. it is not Yahshua's birthday, it is Tammuz birthday, the pagan sun god. Yahshua was not born during the winter soltice. YHWH(Almighty God) hates christmas. Dont celebrate this pagan holiday otherwise you will be worshipping the sun. Jeremiah 10


ummmm... "Merry Christmas"....

or, should it be more politically correct for you if I say... "Merry X-mas", then we can just take Jesus out of it all together...

... yes, that is much better for some...

..But as for me and my house, its gonna stay "Merry Christmas"...

...with a big fat CHRIST stuck right in the middle there....

Knock yourself out with your idols of (Jesus) carved images, and your photos of (Jesus) since you so believe that to be his likeness. Worship the idols just as the children of Yisrael did when they were in the desert, and see where it will get you. You,just as many others have your own god, you rather worship a statue made of stone or wood rather than the Creator, thats your choice and you will answer for that. I hope you have a good explanation.:wink:


The enemy is lying to you about True Christianity, Yamin.

We Christians Worship the Lord Our

God Only.....

And His Name is JESUS......

And JESUS Lives in Our Hearts...

not in a picture or carved on a piece of wood. flowerforyou

Be Blessed Now.:heart::heart::heart:

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 11/19/08 06:51 PM




christmas is an abomination and is full of lies. it is not Yahshua's birthday, it is Tammuz birthday, the pagan sun god. Yahshua was not born during the winter soltice. YHWH(Almighty God) hates christmas. Dont celebrate this pagan holiday otherwise you will be worshipping the sun. Jeremiah 10


ummmm... "Merry Christmas"....

or, should it be more politically correct for you if I say... "Merry X-mas", then we can just take Jesus out of it all together...

... yes, that is much better for some...

..But as for me and my house, its gonna stay "Merry Christmas"...

...with a big fat CHRIST stuck right in the middle there....

Knock yourself out with your idols of (Jesus) carved images, and your photos of (Jesus) since you so believe that to be his likeness. Worship the idols just as the children of Yisrael did when they were in the desert, and see where it will get you. You,just as many others have your own god, you rather worship a statue made of stone or wood rather than the Creator, thats your choice and you will answer for that. I hope you have a good explanation.:wink:


The enemy is lying to you about True Christianity, Yamin.

We Christians Worship the Lord Our

God Only.....

And His Name is JESUS......

And JESUS Lives in Our Hearts...

not in a picture or carved on a piece of wood. flowerforyou

Be Blessed Now.:heart::heart::heart:



Why is it plain scripture says do not do this. Yet you say yes. Are you the Messiah?

Do not lean on your own understanding for the heart is decietfull among all things.

Do you believe that? or this?

My ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts are higher than your thoughts.

yet you say those who tell you and quote what the word says are decieved or been lied to.

How is that?

How is leaning on Yahweh's thoughts being lied to?

Who is the father of lies?

You really should read the Bible and see what it says for yourself instead of following mans Traditions which Yahshua Blasted.

Maybe I am wrong since you follow JC and he says it is honoring him.

TelephoneMan's photo
Wed 11/19/08 08:24 PM
Edited by TelephoneMan on Wed 11/19/08 08:40 PM



christmas is an abomination and is full of lies. it is not Yahshua's birthday, it is Tammuz birthday, the pagan sun god. Yahshua was not born during the winter soltice. YHWH(Almighty God) hates christmas. Dont celebrate this pagan holiday otherwise you will be worshipping the sun. Jeremiah 10


ummmm... "Merry Christmas"....

or, should it be more politically correct for you if I say... "Merry X-mas", then we can just take Jesus out of it all together...

... yes, that is much better for some...

..But as for me and my house, its gonna stay "Merry Christmas"...

...with a big fat CHRIST stuck right in the middle there....

Knock yourself out with your idols of (Jesus) carved images, and your photos of (Jesus) since you so believe that to be his likeness. Worship the idols just as the children of Yisrael did when they were in the desert, and see where it will get you. You,just as many others have your own god, you rather worship a statue made of stone or wood rather than the Creator, thats your choice and you will answer for that. I hope you have a good explanation.:wink:


Falsely accusing me of junk you have no idea about is hogwash.

I don't have one "idol" or picture of the dude anywhere in my house.

You will answer for falsely accusing people of crap you ASSume is what they are into.

You seem to think you got "it all" figured out.

You don't and never will in this lifetime if you continue on this path of vain teachings.

I'm thinking with these teachings you are just looking for people to beat up, and aren't really very compassionate at all. If you were Jesus, I would never follow you. But the Christ, King of Kings I know is compassionate beyond measure. He is my Lord and Savior, and non of your false accusations here can muddle the truth that by only God's spirit can I say Jesus Christ is Lord.

Get thee behind me, or twister of truth. you Have no power of God's people here or anywhere else.

TelephoneMan's photo
Wed 11/19/08 08:39 PM
Edited by TelephoneMan on Wed 11/19/08 08:43 PM
Here's a thought...

Instead of wasting your time, (and God's) worrying about dates that have no meaning, and events that are merely vanity, why not post here and spread the true Gospel message of Christ the Living King?

How this man was born of the Virgin Mary, walked the Earth as a man, tempted in all ways just like you and I are tempted, healed the sick, cleansed the leper, raised the dead.

He layed down his life on the cross, and bled his sacred blood for the atonement of sins, died and was buried. On the third day he was raised from the grave, and shortly thereafter ascended to the right hand of the Father.

We that believe on Him and confess our sins to Him will find forgiveness of sins, and as He lives, we shall also live. Death has no sting, the grave has no victory on the true child of the Living God, who puts their faith in Him until their dying day.

Sister, THIS is a MUCH more worthy thing to be preaching than some vain JUNK about false dates and vain babblings about accusing innocent people of things they aren't truly committing.

Turn your ministry to the spreading of the Gospel message, and away from these silly vain teachings of dates. Who can even tell one date from another with the inaccuracy of calendars? Not you, nor any scholar wiser than you. It is foolishness and vanity.

But to teach the cross, now there is something worth sinking your teeth in to. Because if a person truly knows the truth, the truth will indeed make them free. Only by bringing someone to the cross, and letting God convince them of their sin to repentence are you going to find any harvest pleasing to God.

Go forth now, empowered by this message, and preach the Gospel to the world. You will please God 100 fold from these teachings you post here.

Amen.



A spirit-filled, righteous man in the eyes of the Lord.

memphisboss's photo
Wed 11/19/08 10:06 PM
THINK ABOUT THIS!!! THE LETTER J WAS ONLY INVENTED 500 years AGO BY A ROMAN MONK BY EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LOWER CASE i !!! HE JUST ADDED A HOOK TO IT!!! PLUS THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW!!! WHICH DOESNT HAVE A J IN IT NOW OR THEN!!! RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! SO ANSWER THIS! HOW DO YOU GET JESUS JEHOVAH JEW ETC?

TelephoneMan's photo
Wed 11/19/08 11:07 PM

THINK ABOUT THIS!!! THE LETTER J WAS ONLY INVENTED 500 years AGO BY A ROMAN MONK BY EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LOWER CASE i !!! HE JUST ADDED A HOOK TO IT!!! PLUS THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW!!! WHICH DOESNT HAVE A J IN IT NOW OR THEN!!! RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! SO ANSWER THIS! HOW DO YOU GET JESUS JEHOVAH JEW ETC?


ummm... because we now have the letter "J"...

next question...

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 11/19/08 11:42 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Wed 11/19/08 11:45 PM


THINK ABOUT THIS!!! THE LETTER J WAS ONLY INVENTED 500 years AGO BY A ROMAN MONK BY EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LOWER CASE i !!! HE JUST ADDED A HOOK TO IT!!! PLUS THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW!!! WHICH DOESNT HAVE A J IN IT NOW OR THEN!!! RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! SO ANSWER THIS! HOW DO YOU GET JESUS JEHOVAH JEW ETC?


ummm... because we now have the letter "J"...

next question...


This goes way deeper than you can imagine.

Yea a little hook on a name that is greek.

Where did that name come from?

If you heard someone calling on Satans name and saying Halloween was the birth and we should celebrate it with witches and sorcers would you say the same as you are?

Can we worship any way we please?

Does the scriptures say do everything that the imagination of man can concieve and I will call you my son?

You throw out accusations you know nothing about.

I would be more than happy or if you would read my posts you will see we know what we are saying and it is scripture.

Not some stolen rite of passage from a Pagan ritual.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Are you all knowledgeable?

This is what is wrong with religion today 99% of the people do not know what they believe or worship. I do not have to accuse to say that.

It is true and I can prove it.

Nothing new under the Sun.

What is spreading the Evangel?

Do you really know?

These things make no sence to you.

Ever wonder why?

It is the same as in Yahshua's day and it was foretold of what is happening because the heart is far from Yahweh.
They honor me with thier lips but this means nothing if you do not know where your lips have been.

Strong delusion will I send them because they want to believe a lie.

Yahweh will give you what you want because Satan/helel is the g-d of this world.

Yahshua said they rejected me if another comes in his own name him they will accept.

talking about us today.

Who has come in thier own name?

Who has come and changed laws and times?

Who is the lawless one?

Answer those questions and darkness wiill turn into noon day light. Shalom...Miles

keepthehope's photo
Wed 11/19/08 11:59 PM

THINK ABOUT THIS!!! THE LETTER J WAS ONLY INVENTED 500 years AGO BY A ROMAN MONK BY EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LOWER CASE i !!! HE JUST ADDED A HOOK TO IT!!! PLUS THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW!!! WHICH DOESNT HAVE A J IN IT NOW OR THEN!!! RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! SO ANSWER THIS! HOW DO YOU GET JESUS JEHOVAH JEW ETC?



What does any of that really matter? A rose is still a rose, under any other name? I don't understand why people want to bring up stuff like what his name really was, etc. It doesn't matter. He is still the Son of God, the Christ, the Lamb of God, the Sacrifice for our sins. It doesn't matter what He is called, if you call on Him, the great I AM, with your heart, then He will know it, and that is all that matters.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 11/20/08 12:17 AM


THINK ABOUT THIS!!! THE LETTER J WAS ONLY INVENTED 500 years AGO BY A ROMAN MONK BY EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LOWER CASE i !!! HE JUST ADDED A HOOK TO IT!!! PLUS THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW!!! WHICH DOESNT HAVE A J IN IT NOW OR THEN!!! RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! SO ANSWER THIS! HOW DO YOU GET JESUS JEHOVAH JEW ETC?



What does any of that really matter? A rose is still a rose, under any other name? I don't understand why people want to bring up stuff like what his name really was, etc. It doesn't matter. He is still the Son of God, the Christ, the Lamb of God, the Sacrifice for our sins. It doesn't matter what He is called, if you call on Him, the great I AM, with your heart, then He will know it, and that is all that matters.



Ditto


Then call out and say Praise Satan. He is King. Because that is who those name are from they refer to him. They mean Father of Lies.. So believe what you will.. Shalom...Miles

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Thu 11/20/08 12:22 AM



THINK ABOUT THIS!!! THE LETTER J WAS ONLY INVENTED 500 years AGO BY A ROMAN MONK BY EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LOWER CASE i !!! HE JUST ADDED A HOOK TO IT!!! PLUS THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW!!! WHICH DOESNT HAVE A J IN IT NOW OR THEN!!! RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! SO ANSWER THIS! HOW DO YOU GET JESUS JEHOVAH JEW ETC?



What does any of that really matter? A rose is still a rose, under any other name? I don't understand why people want to bring up stuff like what his name really was, etc. It doesn't matter. He is still the Son of God, the Christ, the Lamb of God, the Sacrifice for our sins. It doesn't matter what He is called, if you call on Him, the great I AM, with your heart, then He will know it, and that is all that matters.



Ditto


Then call out and say Praise Satan. He is King. Because that is who those name are from they refer to him. They mean Father of Lies.. So believe what you will.. Shalom...Miles


What names, are you refering to that are talking about Satan?

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 11/20/08 12:40 AM




THINK ABOUT THIS!!! THE LETTER J WAS ONLY INVENTED 500 years AGO BY A ROMAN MONK BY EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LOWER CASE i !!! HE JUST ADDED A HOOK TO IT!!! PLUS THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW!!! WHICH DOESNT HAVE A J IN IT NOW OR THEN!!! RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! SO ANSWER THIS! HOW DO YOU GET JESUS JEHOVAH JEW ETC?



What does any of that really matter? A rose is still a rose, under any other name? I don't understand why people want to bring up stuff like what his name really was, etc. It doesn't matter. He is still the Son of God, the Christ, the Lamb of God, the Sacrifice for our sins. It doesn't matter what He is called, if you call on Him, the great I AM, with your heart, then He will know it, and that is all that matters.



Ditto


Then call out and say Praise Satan. He is King. Because that is who those name are from they refer to him. They mean Father of Lies.. So believe what you will.. Shalom...Miles


What names, are you refering to that are talking about Satan?



You asked.


No one really knows for sure where the Je came on either name.

JC even though you are told refers back to the Hebrew is not true.

It does refer to the greek.

The sus from greek we know what it means.

The abomination that was in the Temple that caused a revolt in 165 Bc was the slaughter of a pig in the Temple.

sus in greek means SOW.

Yahshua was slaughtered and we became the Temple.

Tus you are saying the sow was slaughtered for the temple of Yahweh as a sacrafice.

Hovah in the hebrew of j-hovah.
means rebel,

hovah

OT:1943 hovah —

ruin, disaster
(from The Online Bible Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)


This is just the tip of the iceburg.. In researching these names.

why do you think Yahshua said this?

John 5:41-45

41 "I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of Yahweh in you. 43 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. 44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only Yahweh?
NKJV

with that in mind here is key to what he is saying in this passage it is a warning of what was to come and has.

43 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.

Just who is this today? Blessings of Shalom...Miles


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Thu 11/20/08 12:51 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 11/20/08 12:54 AM
John 5:41-45

43 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.

Miles....Jesus was talking here in this scripture ( the one they would recieve ) about the coming anti-christ.


Miles.....Jesus is NOT the anti-Christlaugh:heart:flowerforyou

Jesus is Our Saviour.....the One came in His Father's Name.....ya got this all mixed up my friend.flowerforyou

I am just sad at how the enemy messed with you like this....:cry: but am praying and believing with all my heart ....trusting that God WILL reveal His Truth about Who Jesus is, to you.:heart::heart::heart:


Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 11/20/08 12:56 AM
Prove to me. Empty words mean nothing. I will rejoice in anything anyone can prove what I have been saying on here since I joined to be wrong.

How can the truth lose? Shalom...Miles

keepthehope's photo
Thu 11/20/08 01:00 AM





THINK ABOUT THIS!!! THE LETTER J WAS ONLY INVENTED 500 years AGO BY A ROMAN MONK BY EXPERIMENTING WITH THE LOWER CASE i !!! HE JUST ADDED A HOOK TO IT!!! PLUS THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN IN HEBREW!!! WHICH DOESNT HAVE A J IN IT NOW OR THEN!!! RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! SO ANSWER THIS! HOW DO YOU GET JESUS JEHOVAH JEW ETC?



What does any of that really matter? A rose is still a rose, under any other name? I don't understand why people want to bring up stuff like what his name really was, etc. It doesn't matter. He is still the Son of God, the Christ, the Lamb of God, the Sacrifice for our sins. It doesn't matter what He is called, if you call on Him, the great I AM, with your heart, then He will know it, and that is all that matters.



Ditto


Then call out and say Praise Satan. He is King. Because that is who those name are from they refer to him. They mean Father of Lies.. So believe what you will.. Shalom...Miles


What names, are you refering to that are talking about Satan?



You asked.


No one really knows for sure where the Je came on either name.

JC even though you are told refers back to the Hebrew is not true.

It does refer to the greek.

The sus from greek we know what it means.

The abomination that was in the Temple that caused a revolt in 165 Bc was the slaughter of a pig in the Temple.

sus in greek means SOW.

Yahshua was slaughtered and we became the Temple.

Tus you are saying the sow was slaughtered for the temple of Yahweh as a sacrafice.

Hovah in the hebrew of j-hovah.
means rebel,

hovah

OT:1943 hovah —

ruin, disaster
(from The Online Bible Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)


This is just the tip of the iceburg.. In researching these names.

why do you think Yahshua said this?

John 5:41-45

41 "I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of Yahweh in you. 43 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. 44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only Yahweh?
NKJV

with that in mind here is key to what he is saying in this passage it is a warning of what was to come and has.

43 I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.

Just who is this today? Blessings of Shalom...Miles


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Still not getting a clear picture of what you are saying. It looks like you pulled a lot of nothing from different places and tried to make it into something, with nothing to substantiate what is being said. To me it sounds like you are going to a lot of trouble looking into something you try to deny, and then try to force it on everyone else. I have to consider the source, being someone who is very anti God, Christ and anything Biblical. Where you are getting your info is probably from the same type of person, so it's not really believable, either. Why do you care what we believe? It doesn't affect you. Why bother to use part of the Bible as your evidence? If you don't believe all of it, you shouldn't be using any of it. Anyone can take part of the Bible and interpret it any way they want. Without all of it, those interpretations don't mean anything. Personally I don't care what evidence you think you have about the names that we now call Jesus, or God, or whoever. My relationship with God Himself gives me the only source I need to know the TRUTH. Something you will never have as long as you continue on the way you are. I actually feel sorry for you and those of you who are doing your best to tear down everything that has to do with God.

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Thu 11/20/08 01:07 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 11/20/08 01:19 AM

Prove to me. Empty words mean nothing. I will rejoice in anything anyone can prove what I have been saying on here since I joined to be wrong.

How can the truth lose? Shalom...Miles



:heart:TRUTH NEVER LOSES:heart:

And Miles?

WHEN you do get set free, the devil is gonna tremble.....

cause you are gonna be mightily used of the Lord
(Abra is another one who is gonna get set free here).....

and that is why the enemy is trying his darnest to keep you decieved, Miles....ok?flowerforyou

I anm going to try to get some info for you...
hopefully by tomorrow.....
about this sect you are in...(have to go offline now)

In the meantime ,Miles...

go talk to the Lord....

ask GOD to reveal the Truth.....the Whole Truth...and GOD Will, My Friend.
Ok?

God will NOT turn a deaf ear, when you Call Upon His Name in earnest ...to Reveal HIS Truth to you.

Go to God Now!!!

Not man!!!flowerforyou

(((((:heart:Miles:heart:))))

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Thu 11/20/08 01:18 AM
Hey go get your minister on here and we can discuss it. Then we will see who lies.. Shalom...Miles

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