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Topic: christmas is a blasphemous pagan holiday.
DDejon's photo
Tue 11/18/08 03:00 AM
What do you mean when you say "religious spirit", how can you tell? I never read these words coming out of the word of GOD, does everyone who disagrees with you have a "religious spirit"?
That sounds more like an accusation then a statement of fact. Someone else could describe you as having a "religious spirit" because you are very religious.

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Tue 11/18/08 03:01 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 11/18/08 03:07 AM

If you dont want to stand up for the truth then thats fine. But I must tell the truth, if you insist on celebrating christmas I really dont care, but you are mixing the pagan with the sacred. 1Timothy 4, vs7 "But reject profane and old wives fables", like christmas.


There is absolutely NO MIXING of paganism into our worship.... just because it falls on the same day.

This is what I mean about religious nonsense.


One last time....and I will close with this....cause arguing is pointless ...

Christians Celebrate JESUS with a Joyful Heart, EVERYDAY!!

NOT ..just... on... Christmas!!



:heart::heart::heart::




DDejon's photo
Tue 11/18/08 03:05 AM
Also please dont use language like "us christians"
because you are speaking for people you havent met and who may not agree with you. There are over 1,200 different denominations in the USA, with over 60% of the country claiming to be christians, and many like me do not agree with you and dont appreciate you speaking for us.

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Tue 11/18/08 03:05 AM

What do you mean when you say "religious spirit", how can you tell? I never read these words coming out of the word of GOD, does everyone who disagrees with you have a "religious spirit"?
That sounds more like an accusation then a statement of fact. Someone else could describe you as having a "religious spirit" because you are very religious.


There are Many unbeleivers and many other folks on this forum...and I never have said that any of them had a religious spirit.

Not to anyone have I said that to, before now.

Nuff said.

:heart::heart::heart:

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Tue 11/18/08 03:13 AM
There are sabbath keeping churches who do not celebrate christmas, most notably and notoriously the 7th day adventists, of which I am not. However there are many others, and so you cannot say that celebrating chritmas is the norm. Its only the norm for your church and other churches who share your viewpoint.

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Tue 11/18/08 03:13 AM

Also please dont use language like "us christians"
because you are speaking for people you havent met and who may not agree with you. There are over 1,200 different denominations in the USA, with over 60% of the country claiming to be christians, and many like me do not agree with you and dont appreciate you speaking for us.


Ok...Let me correct this then...

I am referring to spirit filled born again christian beleivers ....who JOYFULLY celebrate and worship Jesus EVERY DAY....

not just on Christmas.

Be Blessed Now and Good Morning.
Have to run now.

:heart::heart::heart:

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Tue 11/18/08 03:20 AM

There are sabbath keeping churches who do not celebrate christmas, most notably and notoriously the 7th day adventists, of which I am not. However there are many others, and so you cannot say that celebrating chritmas is the norm. Its only the norm for your church and other churches who share your viewpoint.


Some of my dear and close friends don't believe in celebrating christmas either.......which is fine.

But they don't judge and condemn me for celebrating and worshipping Jesus on christmas day!!

And I don't judge them for not celebrating the day at all!!!


:heart::heart::heart:


DDejon's photo
Tue 11/18/08 03:21 AM
Once again, what are you saying? That those who dont agree with you are not spirit filled? That I dont have the HOLY SPIRIT because the truth is more important to me then the traditions of men? And again, you havent met everyone who is spirit filled and so its condescending for you to speak for adults who have a relationship to JESUS that you havent met and who may not agree with you.

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Tue 11/18/08 03:27 AM


Also please dont use language like "us christians"
because you are speaking for people you havent met and who may not agree with you. There are over 1,200 different denominations in the USA, with over 60% of the country claiming to be christians, and many like me do not agree with you and dont appreciate you speaking for us.


Ok...Let me correct this then...

I am referring to spirit filled born again christian beleivers ....who JOYFULLY celebrate and worship Jesus EVERY DAY....

not just on Christmas.

Am I to understand that there are 2 types of christians then? Spirit filled born again christian believers and "JUST CHRISTIANS"? Are there also different levels of salvation? What is the difference between christians?

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Tue 11/18/08 03:31 AM

Once again, what are you saying? That those who dont agree with you are not spirit filled? That I dont have the HOLY SPIRIT because the truth is more important to me then the traditions of men? And again, you havent met everyone who is spirit filled and so its condescending for you to speak for adults who have a relationship to JESUS that you havent met and who may not agree with you.


Dejon..EVERY christian has the INDWELLING of the Holy Spirit in Him..... that is ghow a christian is a christian.

But what I was simply saying is...

As a born again beleiver myself, I celebrate Jesus EVERY DAY....

and I know MANY MANY other spirit filled born again christians that do so also.

That is all I meant Dejon.

Dejon.........if you accepted Jesus and meant it, you also are born again.

In other words ,There is no such thing as a non born again christian...

cause the ony way a christian is a christian in the first place...is to be born again.

Sorry if there was any misunderstanding here.
None intended ,Dejon.flowerforyou

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Tue 11/18/08 04:09 AM


doesn't really matter what it used to be

now it is the celebration of the baby Jesus (at least in my house)







Yahshua is no longer a baby nor is He on the cross.He is Risen and is now preparing a place for the saints.:smile:

I see they dont teach you anything in Sunday School.



WOW! Someone's wearing their shorts too tight these days...huh? laugh


Seamonster's photo
Tue 11/18/08 06:45 AM
I don't believe in a god. But I'm sure if there is one, the one thing he loves to see is christians ripping each other apart over semantics.
But then if they did'nt we would'nt so many denominations.
It's a good thing the bible is writen so cristal clear that no matter who reads it it's obvious what god was saying.
I think if there is a god he realy dropped the ball on the bible thing.

(amongst others)

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:01 AM

I don't believe in a god. But I'm sure if there is one, the one thing he loves to see is christians ripping each other apart over semantics.
But then if they did'nt we would'nt so many denominations.
It's a good thing the bible is writen so cristal clear that no matter who reads it it's obvious what god was saying.
I think if there is a god he realy dropped the ball on the bible thing.

(amongst others)
Seamonster

Almost all denominations who call themselves chr-stians celebrate chr-stmas..

The splits are the tiny differences in doctrine from the NT.They will call each other chr-stians when in sermons they call the other one wrong and of satan.

Whenever thier is a challenge to what they believe. You will almost always here ( we celebrate worship him everyday) this is one of the brainwashing techniques I have spoken of.

It is a get out of jail free card.

I will take my pass card now please.

This is no game to many people though or social country club.

We can say we are anything we want. That does not make us so.

The word chr-stians was given to pagans who were mocking the belief.

It has taken on new meaning.

The believers called themselves The Way.

This comes from the words of Yahshua saying. I AM the Way The Truth and the Life.

The Way to Eternal Life.

When we go to people who do not believe the Law was ever done away or is somehow not enforce.

We find little to not be in unity about. Then it is not about doctrine but about how are we conducting our lives.

A family matter.

I have asked repeatedly for what is the Letter of the Law with examples from Scripture.

I get the Pass Card.

They do not know what the Letter of the Law is. If they did they would understand that they are being held down.

Brainwashed into believeing anyone who speaks that the keeping of the Law is a non believer. Not Spirit filled. Evil.. Stay away. Do not listen.


This is because when they realize what it is then they understand freedom.

Doing away and claiming the Letter of the Law and the Law are somehow combined is a Total outright lie to decieve and control.

It makes the pastores the ones who can understand the word. Interpret its meaning.

Yet prophecy says we will not be taught by man..

They deny this is possible yet say they are Spirit Filled.

Does not scripture say do not ponder what you will say for I will give it to you?

That is the Holy Spirit and That is The Word of Yahweh.

Does a rational person really believe this Spirit from Yahweh speaks of Himself as a Pagan when he warns to stay away?

Is That the Spirit of truth?

We when it comes to the bible through reasoning out the Window.

We are now something else and what we say we do not have to give a scriptural reason for.

We are above that we now know right from wrong.

This is the biggest deception thier is. It decieves the one who speaks it themselves believing a lie.

The greatest deception.

No wonder those looking in from the outside and listening and seeing . Say who are these Ya-hoo's Shalom..Miles

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Tue 11/18/08 08:04 AM
Wow!!

The Grinches are out

Winx's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:06 AM

Wow!!

The Grinches are out


Bah Humbug.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:10 AM


Wow!!

The Grinches are out


Bah Humbug.


oh yea drinker flowerforyou Shalom Wink

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Tue 11/18/08 08:11 AM
it reminds me of the atheists

"I don't believe in it so you can't celebrate it"

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:18 AM

it reminds me of the atheists

"I don't believe in it so you can't celebrate it"


No it is not my job to save souls,asto speak. It is to speak out and say what the scriptures say.

Yahweh will do the other in his way. Mine is to follow him. I can not stop anyone from believing what they want. It is to speak as I am told.. Blessings...Miles

Winx's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:20 AM
Edited by Winx on Tue 11/18/08 08:21 AM



Wow!!

The Grinches are out


Bah Humbug.


oh yea drinker flowerforyou Shalom Wink


Shalom, Miles.laugh flowerforyou



Seamonster's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:21 AM

it reminds me of the atheists

"I don't believe in it so you can't celebrate it"


Thats not true I'm an atheist and I'm all for people celebrating christmas.
or easter or Chanukah or yom kippur or hakin bakin flakin day or what ever.
I like christmas and trees and carolers and the whole thing I don't want anyones christmas to be takin away.

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