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Topic: christmas is a blasphemous pagan holiday.
Yamin's photo
Mon 11/17/08 07:03 PM
Edited by Yamin on Mon 11/17/08 07:04 PM
..and for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion,that they should believe a lie.

2 Thessolonians 2:11

Maybe if you actually opened your bible and read the passages for yourself you will have understanding. I will pray for you. Maybe YHWH is willing to deliver you from practicing lies,if you dont harden your heart. Keep practicing and believing in that false christianity that brainwash you and see where you will be spending eternity.:cry:

Be Blessed!

Yamin's photo
Mon 11/17/08 07:03 PM
Edited by Yamin on Mon 11/17/08 07:04 PM
..and for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion,that they should believe a lie.

2 Thessolonians 2:11

Maybe if you actually opened your bible and read the passages for yourself you will have understanding. I will pray for you. Maybe YHWH is willing to deliver you from practicing lies,if you dont harden your heart. Keep practicing and believing in that false christianity that brainwash you and see where you will be spending eternity.:cry:

Be Blessed!

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Mon 11/17/08 07:10 PM
Edited by Seamonster on Mon 11/17/08 07:12 PM

You got jokes. you laugh now, but you'll weep latertears tears

or maybe you will love spending eternity with your fatherpitchfork


I just want to make sure I have this strait.

Those that celebrate the birth of jesus on christmas and give gifts to there children and tell them the story of jesus, are all going to hell?

My family is jewish so I'm sure that Chanukah sends them to hell also.

So when does jesus want people to recognize his birth/death to save people from going to hell for worshiping him on the wrong day?



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Mon 11/17/08 07:14 PM
Miles..have you accepted Yeshua into your heart as your Personal Lord and Saviour?

(Miles... it is not by the keeping of the law that man gets saved.....but thru believing and accepting Jesus( Yeshua) into our hearts.

THEN ...after we are Saved....

we keep the law....

but do so out of LOVE for God...

cause He now lives in our hearts...

and so therefore....we willingly

keep the law out of our Great LOVE

for God now.

See what I am saying here, Miles?

:heart::heart::heart:

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Mon 11/17/08 07:24 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 11/17/08 07:26 PM

..and for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion,that they should believe a lie.

2 Thessolonians 2:11

Maybe if you actually opened your bible and read the passages for yourself you will have understanding. I will pray for you. Maybe YHWH is willing to deliver you from practicing lies,if you dont harden your heart. Keep practicing and believing in that false christianity that brainwash you and see where you will be spending eternity.:cry:

Be Blessed!



Sorry Yamin ... that you feel christians celebrating Jesus's birth, is practicing lies.

I see that you and Miles both,
are not christians ...

yet you both feel it is your place
to JUDGE Christians's celebrating the Birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.:cry:

:heart::heart::heart:

Quikstepper's photo
Mon 11/17/08 07:31 PM

Fact...Jesus was born.

Fact... We celebrate as a reminder of who He is.

Fact... For some dogma is the only "religion" they will know.

So I say.....


Ho! Ho! Ho! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

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Mon 11/17/08 07:31 PM


I WEEP at what Religious Spirits do to people.:cry:

So does God.:cry:

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

Yamin's photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:49 PM
Edited by Yamin on Mon 11/17/08 09:56 PM


Fact...Jesus was born.

Fact... We celebrate as a reminder of who He is.

Fact... For some dogma is the only "religion" they will know.

So I say.....


Ho! Ho! Ho! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!




Fact.."Take eat this is my body which is broken for you; do this in rememberance of Me"

You want to state facts smartone make sure they are scriptural. You were never commanded to remember His birth.

Fact..Dec. 25. is not the Messiah's birthday.

Read your christian Bible you can learn a lot.Maybe you will learn to be obedient.happy

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Mon 11/17/08 09:53 PM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Mon 11/17/08 09:54 PM
doesn't really matter what it used to be

now it is the celebration of the baby Jesus (at least in my house)




Yamin's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:01 PM

doesn't really matter what it used to be

now it is the celebration of the baby Jesus (at least in my house)







Yahshua is no longer a baby nor is He on the cross.He is Risen and is now preparing a place for the saints.:smile:

I see they dont teach you anything in Sunday School.

Yamin's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:03 PM



I WEEP at what Religious Spirits do to people.:cry:

So does God.:cry:

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:


YHWH weeps at your intentional disobedience.tears

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Mon 11/17/08 10:03 PM


doesn't really matter what it used to be

now it is the celebration of the baby Jesus (at least in my house)







Yahshua is no longer a baby nor is He on the cross.He is Risen and is now preparing a place for the saints.:smile:

I see they dont teach you anything in Sunday School.


no no no he doesnt get to do all that til Easter. He has to be a baby till then

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Mon 11/17/08 10:04 PM




christmas is a holiday based on sun-worship.the death and rising (ressurection) of the sun-god (horus,tammuz) who has been personified based on the astrological movement of the sun.

christmas has nothing to do with a cute and cuddly baby Messiah born in a manger as is depicted. It is not true folks. There were no 3 wisemen people, they were magicians. when they finally found the messiah it was 2 years later and He lived in a house. The Messiah was near or about 2 years old when the magicians found Him. That's why king herod had all the babies that was 2 years old killed hoping that he would kill the future King.

research the origins of christmas and see if there is any Biblical Scripture to support this holiday.







Yamin.... Beleive me, True Christians are AWARE of all this.....

but it does not and should not keep True Christians ...
from Celebrating the TRUE REASON FOR THE SEASON ANYWAY.



Yamin...

let's say a couple has a son born on a pagan holiday...

does that mean the parents of that child ....

CAN'T celebrate their son's birthday on that day....

simply because it is known as a pagan holiday to others ?

(and yes Yamin, Christians are WELL AWARE that dec 25 is not Jesus's actual birth date..but we choose to celebrate his birthday on christmas anyway...

cause it is not about a certain day anyway.....

it's about celebrating the fact that our Lord and Saviour WAS BORN on earth..

and DID Dwell among us....

and came to Save Us...

and we now REJOICE that our God Loved us that much........

and we celebrate..not only on Chrsitmas...

but EVERYDAY....

cause we LOVE Our Lord God!!!
:heart::heart::heart:



Wow so If I want to celebrate it on Halloween with pumkins and witches with the savior in the manger.. And 3 witches come to honor thier new found king. With sorcery being done to people as they come up to look at the baby who has little red Horns.

it is okay because I love my Savior. It does not matter how we worship him.

It is that we do worship him.

And if I want to fly away on a broomstick to get home he is proud of me.

He is love.


Why all the silly things of the bible.

They do not mean anything because my savior did away with the law.

We are Free Free to do as we please.

Every man doing what is right in his own eyes is what Chr-stianity is about now.


:heart: :heart: :heart:



It is OBVIOUS that you haven't the Foggiest of what True Christianity is About, Miles.

For one..christians do NOT believe in doing away with the law ....we are just not under the LETTER of the law....but now under Grace.

And We still keep God's law, out of of our LOVE for God.

:heart::heart::heart:




Show me what is the Letter of the Law in scripture.. Shalom...Miles

Yamin's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:04 PM




I WEEP at what Religious Spirits do to people.:cry:

So does God.:cry:

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:


YHWH weeps at your blatant disobedience.tears

Winx's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:05 PM
Yamin,

Are you by any chance Jehovah's Witness, if I may ask?

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:06 PM

Miles..have you accepted Yeshua into your heart as your Personal Lord and Saviour?

(Miles... it is not by the keeping of the law that man gets saved.....but thru believing and accepting Jesus( Yeshua) into our hearts.

THEN ...after we are Saved....

we keep the law....

but do so out of LOVE for God...

cause He now lives in our hearts...

and so therefore....we willingly

keep the law out of our Great LOVE

for God now.

See what I am saying here, Miles?

:heart::heart::heart:


Can you show me where i have EVER said keeping of the law saves you?

You like to say what I believe when you do not understand anything I believe

Yamin's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:13 PM

Yamin,

Are you by any chance Jehovah's Witness, if I may ask?


No. I not Jehovah Witness nor am I a so called Christian nor do I call myself by anything else man made up. I am what Yahshua is, an Israelite.
:smile:

Winx's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:15 PM


Yamin,

Are you by any chance Jehovah's Witness, if I may ask?


No. I not Jehovah Witness nor am I a so called Christian nor do I call myself by anything else man made up. I am what Yahshua is, an Israelite.
:smile:


I was just wondering because I had some friends that didn't celebrate Christmas because they were Jehovah's Witness.flowerforyou

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:16 PM


You got jokes. you laugh now, but you'll weep latertears tears

or maybe you will love spending eternity with your fatherpitchfork


I just want to make sure I have this strait.

Those that celebrate the birth of jesus on christmas and give gifts to there children and tell them the story of jesus, are all going to hell?

My family is jewish so I'm sure that Chanukah sends them to hell also.

So when does jesus want people to recognize his birth/death to save people from going to hell for worshiping him on the wrong day?





No you are not going to burn in hell for eternity. This is man made to scare you into a belief. Then if you contradict what they say you are told you are going to hell. Scare tactic. This keeps men in line. Gives Pastors the rule over you and gets the flock to ignore you if you question what they say.

This is what a cult is power for the elite. They tell you what you believe. Sure they may hold classes but questioning is only allowed if you give the correct answer at the end. IF you do not then you are rebelling. Not because of what you are questioning from the scriptures. It is rebelling against your pastor who can not let his flock have any thoughts of thier own against his.

This is a true cult. This is why christmas is held so dear. This is why so many even when they see it is not biblical will say it does not matter . as long as we worship him. Yet in the same sentence will tell you allah you can not say is the creator.

This is a brainwashing technique that has been going on for hundreds of years.

The one day a light bulb will go off and they will say ourt of nowhere I understand that. Why did I not before.

It is because the ministers who they go to always says key words which keep them in check and they never know it.

Listen to ministers and see if they do not all have the same key phrases.

If not then you will notice that this other denomination who has a different doctrine to draw you to them all thier ministers have a certain key words they will always say in a sermon.. Shalom...Miles

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Mon 11/17/08 10:20 PM
this is what Christmas is in our house

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1TaW2wUMMc

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