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Topic: Afghanistan Producing More Heroin Than Ever
madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Mon 12/08/08 01:02 PM
Afghanistan now supplies over 90 percent of the world’s heroin, generating nearly $200 billion in revenue. Since the U.S. invasion on Oct. 7, 2001, opium output has increased 33-fold (to over 8,250 metric tons a year). The U.S. has been in Afghanistan for over seven years, has spent $177 billion in that country alone, and has the most powerful and technologically advanced military on Earth. GPS tracking devices can locate any spot imaginable by simply pushing a few buttons. Still, bumper crops keep flourishing year after year, even though heroin production is a laborious, intricate process. The poppies must be planted, grown and harvested; then after the morphine is extracted it has to be cooked, refined, packaged into bricks and transported from rural locales across national borders. To make heroin from morphine requires another 12-14 hours of laborious chemical reactions. Thousands of people are involved, yet—despite the massive resources at our disposal—heroin keeps flowing at record levels. http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/afghanistan-producing-more-heroin-than-ever/

35TOO Joined Sat 11/08/08 Posts: 10407	Mon 12/08/08 01:25 PM
SHOULD HAVE NUKED THEM WHEN WE HAD THE CHANCE............

martymark Joined Tue 11/18/08 Posts: 1105	Mon 12/08/08 01:53 PM
Greed breeds bad deeds, this is a perfect example!

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Mon 12/08/08 01:58 PM
obama will save us

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Mon 12/08/08 03:26 PM
Afghanistan now supplies over 90 percent of the world’s heroin, generating nearly $200 billion in revenue. Since the U.S. invasion on Oct. 7, 2001, opium output has increased 33-fold (to over 8,250 metric tons a year). The U.S. has been in Afghanistan for over seven years, has spent $177 billion in that country alone, and has the most powerful and technologically advanced military on Earth. GPS tracking devices can locate any spot imaginable by simply pushing a few buttons. Still, bumper crops keep flourishing year after year, even though heroin production is a laborious, intricate process. The poppies must be planted, grown and harvested; then after the morphine is extracted it has to be cooked, refined, packaged into bricks and transported from rural locales across national borders. To make heroin from morphine requires another 12-14 hours of laborious chemical reactions. Thousands of people are involved, yet—despite the massive resources at our disposal—heroin keeps flowing at record levels. http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/afghanistan-producing-more-heroin-than-ever/ Taliban money.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Mon 12/08/08 04:09 PM
So much for the war on drugs. One would think with the good old USA on the job the drug trafficing would stop. So if the drugs are getting out what else is? hmmm terrorists maybe? Is the so called war on terror about as bogus as the war on drugs?

michiganman3 Joined Mon 10/29/07 Posts: 14521	Mon 12/08/08 07:55 PM
The money is used to fight the heathen infidels, and provide an income to local farmers. A few yrs ago, the poppy crop was minimal compared to today.

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Mon 12/08/08 07:59 PM
Afghanistan now supplies over 90 percent of the world’s heroin, generating nearly $200 billion in revenue. Since the U.S. invasion on Oct. 7, 2001, opium output has increased 33-fold (to over 8,250 metric tons a year). The U.S. has been in Afghanistan for over seven years, has spent $177 billion in that country alone, and has the most powerful and technologically advanced military on Earth. GPS tracking devices can locate any spot imaginable by simply pushing a few buttons. Still, bumper crops keep flourishing year after year, even though heroin production is a laborious, intricate process. The poppies must be planted, grown and harvested; then after the morphine is extracted it has to be cooked, refined, packaged into bricks and transported from rural locales across national borders. To make heroin from morphine requires another 12-14 hours of laborious chemical reactions. Thousands of people are involved, yet—despite the massive resources at our disposal—heroin keeps flowing at record levels. http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/afghanistan-producing-more-heroin-than-ever/ Taliban money. exactly problem is that afghanistan now is a sovereign nation and we don't get to make rules for them anymore and Karzai is allowing it to keep the people employed and docile BUT there is billions of dollars flowing to the Taliban and Bin Laden (if he's still alive)

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Mon 12/08/08 08:01 PM
Afghanistan now supplies over 90 percent of the world’s heroin, generating nearly $200 billion in revenue. Since the U.S. invasion on Oct. 7, 2001, opium output has increased 33-fold (to over 8,250 metric tons a year). The U.S. has been in Afghanistan for over seven years, has spent $177 billion in that country alone, and has the most powerful and technologically advanced military on Earth. GPS tracking devices can locate any spot imaginable by simply pushing a few buttons. Still, bumper crops keep flourishing year after year, even though heroin production is a laborious, intricate process. The poppies must be planted, grown and harvested; then after the morphine is extracted it has to be cooked, refined, packaged into bricks and transported from rural locales across national borders. To make heroin from morphine requires another 12-14 hours of laborious chemical reactions. Thousands of people are involved, yet—despite the massive resources at our disposal—heroin keeps flowing at record levels. http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/afghanistan-producing-more-heroin-than-ever/ Taliban money. exactly problem is that afghanistan now is a sovereign nation and we don't get to make rules for them anymore and Karzai is allowing it to keep the people employed and docile BUT there is billions of dollars flowing to the Taliban and Bin Laden (if he's still alive) I heard on NPR today that the Taliban control 75% of Afghanistan now and that includes the government.

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Mon 12/08/08 08:04 PM
This isn't anything new. The fact that the fields were still producing was put out months ago. If I remember right there was a thread here about that and the fact that US troops were protecting the fields.

Lynann Joined Mon 10/01/07 Posts: 4072	Mon 12/08/08 08:14 PM
Yep funny isn't it? Fight the war on drugs here in the U.S. and meanwhile turn a blind eye to poppy fields in Afghanistan. If that doesn't make you question the motivations and actions of the United States government I am not sure what would.

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Mon 12/08/08 08:15 PM
hahaha he might be a tyrannical drug lord but he's OUR tyrannical drug lord

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Mon 12/08/08 08:17 PM
Yep funny isn't it? Fight the war on drugs here in the U.S. and meanwhile turn a blind eye to poppy fields in Afghanistan. If that doesn't make you question the motivations and actions of the United States government I am not sure what would. are you and madisonman related ?...

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Mon 12/08/08 08:27 PM
This isn't anything new. The fact that the fields were still producing was put out months ago. If I remember right there was a thread here about that and the fact that US troops were protecting the fields. We're protecting the fields?!

karmafury Joined Sun 11/12/06 Posts: 10156	Mon 12/08/08 08:45 PM
This isn't anything new. The fact that the fields were still producing was put out months ago. If I remember right there was a thread here about that and the fact that US troops were protecting the fields. We're protecting the fields?! Protecting and/or ignoring the fields. Destruction of the fields takes the little money (about $2US a day) from the farmers and that would push them to the Taliban. All NATO forces were instructed to NOT destroy the fields.

Atlantis75 Joined Wed 12/03/08 Posts: 8581	Mon 12/08/08 08:58 PM
Afghanistan Producing More Heroin Than Ever Yeah, that's terrible, but before the war most people didn't even know where Afghanistan was or cared if it actually existed. Why should I care actually..they should fix their own problems..people live there, it's their own country. What I care is why USA is not producing a damn thing anymore. Now, that's more important.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 12/08/08 09:15 PM
wow heroin ,a senseless war.where have i seen this before...hmmmmmmmm...oh yeah Vietnam.

Thomas3474 Joined Mon 11/10/08 Posts: 2713	Tue 12/09/08 04:20 AM
Maybe if the liberals here in America(which is no doubt probably heroin's main customer)would stop spending less time trying to get little or no jail time for drugs and make tougher laws and longer jail sentences we could make some progress.Canada passed a law a few years back making heroin legal to shoot up and even provided government sponsored buildings where they could get high.Needless to say drug use has gone through the roof in Canada since you can do pretty much what ever you want with out the police busting you. I also remember liberals whining a while back that burning poppy farms was "just a big waste of government money" and how the drug war should just be shut down altogether.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Tue 12/09/08 05:12 AM Edited by Winx on Tue 12/09/08 05:48 AM
Maybe if the liberals here in America(which is no doubt probably heroin's main customer)would stop spending less time trying to get little or no jail time for drugs and make tougher laws and longer jail sentences we could make some progress.Canada passed a law a few years back making heroin legal to shoot up and even provided government sponsored buildings where they could get high.Needless to say drug use has gone through the roof in Canada since you can do pretty much what ever you want with out the police busting you. I also remember liberals whining a while back that burning poppy farms was "just a big waste of government money" and how the drug war should just be shut down altogether. Like Conservative don't do drugs. Drugs have no color, no social status, and no political party. Edit: Did you know, btw, that the kids with more money have more money in which to buy drugs? Also, haven't you heard? The jails are full with people that have done drugs.

Lynann Joined Mon 10/01/07 Posts: 4072	Tue 12/09/08 07:52 AM
Maybe if the liberals here in America Gee, thanks for the giggles Thomas. Please take a moment to examine drug policy here in the U.S. It's a complex problem and not one belonging to either party or even to one class of person. Drugs are used by people of every party and income level. If I wanted to make a simplistic argument blaming the drug problem on ummm let's say republicans I could use this. Check it out. FBI/DEA/NSA documentation on the importation and sales of crack cocaine into the U.S. with the knowledge of the republican administration. --------- http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm An August, 1996, series in the San Jose Mercury News by reporter Gary Webb linked the origins of crack cocaine in California to the contras, a guerrilla force backed by the Reagan administration that attacked Nicaragua's Sandinista government during the 1980s. Webb's series, "The Dark Alliance," has been the subject of intense media debate, and has focused attention on a foreign policy drug scandal that leaves many questions unanswered. This electronic briefing book is compiled from declassified documents obtained by the National Security Archive, including the notebooks kept by NSC aide and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, electronic mail messages written by high-ranking Reagan administration officials, memos detailing the contra war effort, and FBI and DEA reports. The documents demonstrate official knowledge of drug operations, and collaboration with and protection of known drug traffickers. Court and hearing transcripts are also included. Special thanks to the Arca Foundation, the Ruth Mott Fund, the Samuel Rubin Foundation, and the Fund for Constitutional Government for their support.