So..

Toyota to suspend production in Japanese plants for 11 days.

So...when will those poster, you know who you are, you anti-American business, anti-union folks who trashed the US car companies going to mention that sales of Japanese cars around down 30%?

Hummm something like...

Maybe if they got rid of the unions and built a good car that people wanted to drive they wouldn't have to......ooh...wait a minute

I've been reading about the economic reverberations spreading throughout the world. It's all sad, but expected. And it's not just the US that is tightening belts.

The world is full of Kings and Queens
who blind your eyes and steal your dreams
It's Heaven and Hell....A lot of things wrong with society today are directly attributable to the fact that the people who make the laws are sexually maladjusted...wolves watching the sheep

Basically what I'm saying is....we are all so screwed

Those damn lazy auto workers

Misdirection fallacy.

Yes, I am against any unions.
No, I do love America, and want it to be stronger.
Yes, I do not find domestic cars worthy my money.

But back to your misdirection:

Did Toyota ask for a bailout? If yes, I haven't heard it yet.

Unions are the cause of the decline in domestic industries. It's a practice of Soviets, a practice of weak. I desire no fake strength for my country.

If Toyota has their own reasons for the decline, I suppose we could learn on their example.

Where is the contradiction?

unions came about because of bad corporate practices unions are not a bad concept; but when they get to being as bad as the corporates were in the other direction; then yes they are a bad thing

what we need is a happy medium corporate greed gave birth to the union and union greed is bring death to the very jobs they are there to protect


just a thought

but hey

what do i know

No Toyota didn't have to ask for a bail-out. Their government supports them already and has since day one.

Maybe you should get in touch with the facts.

For instance did you know Toyota sells and has always sold it's cars cheaper in the US than in Japan? Or that their government subsidizes them? Or that their government limits the number of US autos that can be imported but has no such restrictions on those imported to the US? Or that the tariffs on US cars imported there are obscenely high?

You call me anti-American but you are willing to give away our means to produce an essential product that employs Americans, contributes to our tax base, enables people to buy other products produced in the US along with one that might be essential to our security in a time of war???

Oh and the next time you are enjoying an eight hour work day, over time pay or a weekend get your butt out and thank a union member because without them my sweet you wouldn't even know what those privileges are.

The weak...as you described them were stronger I suspect than you will ever know. The really sad thing is you can keep lying to yourself while enjoying the privileges made by others for you and all the while condemn them.

I feel sorry for you...you sir seem willing to give away all the strides we as a country have made.

Do you think once the competition is eliminated US manufacturing capabilities their cars will still be cheap? Do you think if we have to fight on our shores the Japanese will say, "Gosh, we will manufacture the vehicles you need to fight your war"?

blah blah blah blah blah.......lets go car shopping. They are all over priced anyhow......working class cant afford them.


and not to mention they dont last as long as they used to anyhow...i would be lucky to get 200,000 miles outta my jeep.

I remember, in 1977, I was a teller in a bank. I got paid, I think it was $3.25 an hour, which was better than my teller position, in which I made $1.65 an hour. I was fortunate I had previous experience.

There was so much misogyny you could smell testosterone. Younger, less experienced male tellers, who could never balance a days work, were being promoted over female tellers, who had better educations, and who denied raises because they didn't balance a days work, a few times that YEAR. Reviewed, of course, my male superiors.

I called the Teamsters Union of Chicago and began making plans to unionize bank employees in the state.

Work got out and I was not only fired, I was blackballed. It took 6 months, a really smart employment agenecy and a lawyer friend to find this out. A couple well placed phone calls and a legal letter to the head of the bank I was fired from and the next job I interviewed for I got.

In hindsight, had I been a stronger person, I would have continued my original plan in spite of the fact that I no longer worked in the field. I was only 22 at the time, what did I know???

Unions - Lynann is right, without them we would still be like third world countries, hammering out the day in sweat shops.

Just goes to show why we are going down. Keep unionizing.

Thinking about this, I've got an idea for you. What's the entrepreneur for, really? We don't need them. We need more unions. Union knows best.

Just like right now. We see lay-offs. Here is a perfect way to repair the situation: Get all those laid-off, and create a union. Remove the nagging obstruction of the corporate greed. Just a union, a big one too. Let's really make it shine. Who needs jobs when we have got all the employees we can want? Let's call it The Union. As big as a country! Don't leave anyone "unprotected".

Let's name it then. You pick the name, cause I already have one circling my brain.

The [insert name here] Union.