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Edited by
Fanta46
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Fri 01/09/09 10:28 PM
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Much of the money he plans on spending will be spent on infrastructure. Infrastructure that has been ignored for 8 years.
Some will be spent to help private corporations lessen our dependence on foreign oil. (New technologies like Hydrogen fuel cells, wind turbines, nat gas, etc.) All of this will help provide jobs and secure our future. It will increase the morale and pride of Americans and confidence in America by the world! His Diplomatic foreign policy will begin by talking to people of other countries and cultures as equals instead of bombing the **** out of them because we can! Obama will bring about good things, but it wont come easy and everyone wont be receptive at first. My prediction is his first 4 years of accomplishments will ensure another 4 years and a new attitude in American Politics that will be demanded by all Americans forever forth! |
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He won a majority this time by people wanting hope.
4 years from now he will win by an even bigger majority because they will have confidence! |
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Fanta,
Dependence on foreign oil? Do you see it? You reveal that all you know comes from some TV show, just like you thought of me, when you said that I am a "Ron Paul economist". What dependence? What are you blabbering about? Do you realize that US will collapse if we start using our own oil? I bet you don't see how is that possible. Not in your world. Say we give you the role of leading America to "the future". You will end our dependence on foreign oil? Well, and that would be your last act as a president. |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Sat 01/10/09 10:26 AM
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So you do or you dont believe we are dependent on foreign oil?
Your post is really unclear. The US will collapse if we start using our own oil? LOL, we already use our own and twice that with our consumption of foreign oil. Say we give me the role of leading America to the future? Didnt you watch? Americans elected Obama. He won by a majority, both in electoral and the popular vote. And, for the first time in 8 years there was no need of a recount. Oh yeah, Ron Paul didnt only got two percent of the Republican nominations votes! Did you suddenly wake up from a coma or what? 
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Fanta,
What do I have to do with Ron Paul? I did not vote for him. I voted for Obama. Secondly, what a popular vote without a need for recount has to do with anything? As to the oil: We are NOT dependent on foreign oil in the way that we "have to go to the foreigners to buy some oil". We could have stopped that and have our own tomorrow. We doing this because foreign oil cost us nothing. It is free. We would have to pay for our own. |
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Edited by
quiet_2008
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Sat 01/10/09 11:52 AM
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We doing this because foreign oil cost us nothing. It is free. We would have to pay for our own.
it's not "free". right now it is costing about $38 a barrel. That is too cheap to be worth pumping our own oil put of the ground. Contrary to what most people believe, the majority of our oil comes from small independent producers. Not "big oil". and those independents can afford to pump oil at that low of a price. So they are stacking rigs and laying off people I was reading that there are around 80 oil tankers parked off our coast waiting for the price of oil to go up so they can deliver it at a price to make it worth moving it across the ocean But according to the oil analysts here. The price of oil (and gas) will start going back up by summer. Expect $200 a barrel oil and $4-$5 a gallon gas by the end of summer |
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Fanta, What do I have to do with Ron Paul? I did not vote for him. I voted for Obama. Secondly, what a popular vote without a need for recount has to do with anything? As to the oil: We are NOT dependent on foreign oil in the way that we "have to go to the foreigners to buy some oil". We could have stopped that and have our own tomorrow. We doing this because foreign oil cost us nothing. It is free. We would have to pay for our own. What oil do we have!!! Show me....Oil that can sustain us!!!! Its not there.. Quiet is right!!! 4 to 5 dollars a gal. is coming. People even talking of oil shows just how brainwashed this country is. Its 100 year old technology for gods sake with a LIMITED SUPPLY!!! Time to wise up!!!!!!! |
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Thats the stupidest thing I have ever read and I have read alot. What oil do we have!!! Show me....Oil that can sustain us!!!! Its not there.. Well, Fanta meant whatever the oil we do have. For this particular question, I wouldn't skid into debating how much we have. It is a valid but a separate question. |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Sat 01/10/09 01:06 PM
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Thats the stupidest thing I have ever read and I have read alot. What oil do we have!!! Show me....Oil that can sustain us!!!! Its not there.. Well, Fanta meant whatever the oil we do have. For this particular question, I wouldn't skid into debating how much we have. It is a valid but a separate question. |
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Edited by
nogames39
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Sat 01/10/09 01:12 PM
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Again you want to talk about a 100 yr old technology. HMMM how many other industries would have failed if they did the same. I wonder why we are even talking oil...Is the rich getting richer off of it? But they pay to much in taxes... I am sorry, temptier, the question was if America is in fact, dependent on foreign oil. Fanta thinks it is. I disagree. I say we do that by choice, not because we have to. Foreign oil is free. Therefore, why would you want to consume the domestic supplies, which will not be free, however cheaper they might be? Others said that it is not free. But they confirm that foreign oil is cheaper. So, the question still stands, that why buy more expensive, when you can buy cheaper (or free - my opinion)? |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Sat 01/10/09 01:26 PM
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Again you want to talk about a 100 yr old technology. HMMM how many other industries would have failed if they did the same. I wonder why we are even talking oil...Is the rich getting richer off of it? But they pay to much in taxes... I am sorry, temptier, the question was if America is in fact, dependent on foreign oil. Fanta thinks it is. I disagree. I say we do that by choice, not because we have to. Foreign oil is free. Therefore, why would you want to consume the domestic supplies, which will not be free, however cheaper they might be? Others said that it is not free. But they confirm that foreign oil is cheaper. So, the question still stands, that why buy more expensive, when you can buy cheaper (or free - my opinion)? |
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I ask for you to show facts on our oil reserves. Again we are dependent on forign oil even if we drill baby drill. Its not there! Even if it was it would go into the worlds supply and not into our tanks. But sence its not there this is a waste of time. Why do you ask that of me? I did not state any opinion with regards to actual oil resource available domestically. Perhaps, if it is your opinion that we don't have any supply domestically, then you should ask Fanta on how is he going to create those supplies to end the "dependence". |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Sat 01/10/09 01:42 PM
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Top World Oil Producers, 2006
(thousand barrels per day) Rank Country Production 1 Saudi Arabia 10,665 2 Russia 9,677 3 United States 8,331 4 Iran 4,148 5 China 3,845 6 Mexico 3,707 7 Canada 3,288 Unfortunately we use all ours plus one and a half times that amount from foreign producers! |
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Top World Oil Consumers, 2006
(thousand barrels per day) Rank Country Consumption 1 United States 20,687 2 China 7,201 3 Japan 5,198 4 Russia 2,811 5 Germany 2,692 6 India 2,572 7 Canada 2,297 All this info comes from; http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/country/index.cfm |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Sat 01/10/09 01:43 PM
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I ask for you to show facts on our oil reserves. Again we are dependent on forign oil even if we drill baby drill. Its not there! Even if it was it would go into the worlds supply and not into our tanks. But sence its not there this is a waste of time. Why do you ask that of me? I did not state any opinion with regards to actual oil resource available domestically. Perhaps, if it is your opinion that we don't have any supply domestically, then you should ask Fanta on how is he going to create those supplies to end the "dependence". |
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Those numbers indicate Canada is not our biggest foreign supplier.
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Sat 01/10/09 01:46 PM
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I ask for you to show facts on our oil reserves. Again we are dependent on forign oil even if we drill baby drill. Its not there! Even if it was it would go into the worlds supply and not into our tanks. But sence its not there this is a waste of time. Why do you ask that of me? I did not state any opinion with regards to actual oil resource available domestically. Perhaps, if it is your opinion that we don't have any supply domestically, then you should ask Fanta on how is he going to create those supplies to end the "dependence". Its kinda like debating with the uninformed. Its useless! |
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Top world oil Producers, 2008
CIA World Factbook 2008 Saudi Arabia 11,100,000 bbl Russia 9,677,000 bbl United States of America 8,322,000 bbl Iran 4,150,000 bbl Mexico 3,784,000 bbl China 3,710,000 bbl Canada 3,092,000 bbl Two sources confirmed! |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Sat 01/10/09 01:50 PM
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Consumers, 2008
Data Up to 2005; CIA World Factbook United States of America 20,800,000 bbl China 6,930,000 bbl Japan 5,353,000 bbl Russia 2,916,000 bbl Germany 2,618,000 bbl |
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