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I think he believes that oil should be taken off the table.(I could be wrong) Its a losing battle except for the people profiting from it. But hey lets keep giving them taxes breaks as I am sure they have our best interest in mind. Funny thing about trickle down economics is it just never makes it down!!!! He did not reveal what does he mean by "ending our dependence on foreign oil". Honestly, I did not ask him that. May-be I should have. To lock him in a particular statement. My whole point with respect of "oil dependence" was that we don't really pay for it. So, it's not a big deal. I also am familiar and agree with the view that should domestic oil proved to be less expensive, then it will end up being sold to world markets. |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Sat 01/10/09 01:57 PM
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I think he believes that oil should be taken off the table.(I could be wrong) Its a losing battle except for the people profiting from it. But hey lets keep giving them taxes breaks as I am sure they have our best interest in mind. Funny thing about trickle down economics is it just never makes it down!!!! He did not reveal what does he mean by "ending our dependence on foreign oil". Honestly, I did not ask him that. May-be I should have. To lock him in a particular statement. My whole point with respect of "oil dependence" was that we don't really pay for it. So, it's not a big deal. I also am familiar and agree with the view that should domestic oil proved to be less expensive, then it will end up being sold to world markets. We dont really pay for it? LMAO Whose wallet do you work out of? |
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Debating with you is like this;]
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I heard today that the banks didn't account for the half that was spent. Yep, they're going to have to account for the second half and it can't show anything frivolous. There is zero accountability requirement for the money given under that act. Part of the plan. Paulson can spend the money however he wants with no limitations from what i understand. The banks haven't reported to congress in months if not years, and they won't anytime soon. Congressmen/women have continually complained that congress is givenmore information on what happens in the CIA than they do the national bank meetings.... I heard that they're going to have to account for the second half. |
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Bush's original bill had zero accountability, but the final bill required the banks to report every few months.
I cant remember the exact time but I'll look! |
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Several oversight mechanisms are established by the bill.
Financial Stability Oversight Board The Financial Stability Oversight Board is created to review and make recommendations regarding the Treasury's actions. The members of the board are: Chairman of the Board of the Federal Reserve Secretary of the Treasury Director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission Secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development Congressional Oversight Panel A Congressional Oversight Panel is created by the bill to review the state of the markets, current regulatory system, and the Treasury Department's management of the Troubled Asset Relief Program. The panel is required to report their findings to Congress every 30 days, counting from the first asset purchase made under the program. The panel must also submit a special report to Congress about regulatory reform on or before January 20, 2009. The panel consists of five outside experts appointed as follows: One member chosen by the Speaker of the House One member chosen by the minority leader of the House One member chosen by the majority leader of the Senate One member chosen by the minority leader of the Senate One member chosen by the Speaker of the House and the majority leader of the Senate, following consultation with the minority leaders of Congress Comptroller General oversight requirement The Comptroller General (director of the Government Accountability Office) is required to monitor the performance of the program, and report findings to Congress every 60 days. The Comptroller General is also required to audit the program annually. The bill grants the Comptroller General access to all information, records, reports, data, etc. belonging to or in use by the program. Office of the Special Inspector General The bill creates the Office of the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Special Inspector General's purpose is to monitor, audit and investigate the activities of the Treasury in the administration of the program, and report findings to Congress every quarter. |
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mnhiker
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Sun 01/11/09 10:28 PM
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Several oversight mechanisms are established by the bill. Financial Stability Oversight Board The Financial Stability Oversight Board is created to review and make recommendations regarding the Treasury's actions. The members of the board are: Chairman of the Board of the Federal Reserve Secretary of the Treasury Director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission Secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development Congressional Oversight Panel A Congressional Oversight Panel is created by the bill to review the state of the markets, current regulatory system, and the Treasury Department's management of the Troubled Asset Relief Program. The panel is required to report their findings to Congress every 30 days, counting from the first asset purchase made under the program. The panel must also submit a special report to Congress about regulatory reform on or before January 20, 2009. The panel consists of five outside experts appointed as follows: One member chosen by the Speaker of the House One member chosen by the minority leader of the House One member chosen by the majority leader of the Senate One member chosen by the minority leader of the Senate One member chosen by the Speaker of the House and the majority leader of the Senate, following consultation with the minority leaders of Congress Comptroller General oversight requirement The Comptroller General (director of the Government Accountability Office) is required to monitor the performance of the program, and report findings to Congress every 60 days. The Comptroller General is also required to audit the program annually. The bill grants the Comptroller General access to all information, records, reports, data, etc. belonging to or in use by the program. Office of the Special Inspector General The bill creates the Office of the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Special Inspector General's purpose is to monitor, audit and investigate the activities of the Treasury in the administration of the program, and report findings to Congress every quarter. What is needed now desperately is more job opportunities for the working class. Put more people to work and they will have more money to spend on necessities of life, and maybe a few luxuries. This will help grow the economy and help businesses stay in business. Look, it's not going to be easy, and it will take a long time to get this country out of the economic doldrums caused by Bush Jr. and his greedy swine. But it's a start. The wealthy have been living off the fat of the land for the past 8 years while many other people have been struggling. It's time the poor and middle class got a break. |
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November 19, 2008
Why Spending Stimulus Plans Fail by Brian M. Riedl Congressional Democrats are now demanding another economic stimulus package to "inject" as much as $300 billion into the economy. The package will fail -- just like last year’s $333 billion in emergency spending and $150 billion in tax rebates failed. There’s a simple reason why. Government stimulus bills are based on the idea that feeding new money into the economy will increase demand, and thus production. But where does government get this money? Congress doesn’t have its own stash. Every dollar it injects into the economy must first be taxed or borrowed out of the economy. No new spending power is created. It’s merely redistributed from one group of people to another. Of course, advocates of stimulus respond that redistributing money from "savers" to "spenders" will lead to additional spending. That assumes that savers store spare cash in their mattresses, thereby removing it from the economy. In reality, nearly all Americans either invest their savings (where it finances business investment) or deposit it in banks (which quickly lend it to others to spend). The money gets spent whether it is initially consumed or saved. Governments don’t create new purchasing power out of thin air. If Congress funds new spending with taxes, it is redistributing existing income. If the money is borrowed from American investors, those investors will have that much less to invest or to spend in the private economy. If the money is borrowed from foreigners, the balance of payments must still balance. That means reducing net exports through exchange-rate adjustments, thereby leaving net spending on the economy unchanged. Yet Congress will soon borrow $300 billion from one group of people and then give it to another group of people and tell us we’re all wealthier for it. Lawmakers commit this fallacy repeatedly. They tout unemployment and food-stamp spending as stimulus without asking where the programs’ funding comes from. They hype a federal bailout of the states as stimulus, as if having Congress do the taxing and borrowing instead of state governments makes it a free lunch. And, especially in this era, when "our crumbling infrastructure" seems to have become the new mantra, legislators and lobbyists tout a 2002 Department of Transportation (DOT) study that they believe proves that every $1 billion spent on highways adds 47,576 new jobs to the economy. The problem is that the study doesn’t actually make that claim. It stated that spending $1 billion on highways would require 47,576 workers (or more precisely, would require 26,524 workers, who then spend their income elsewhere, supporting an additional 21,052 workers). But before the government can spend $1 billion hiring road builders and purchasing asphalt, it must first tax or borrow $1 billion from other sectors of the economy, which then lose a similar number of jobs. In other words, highway spending merely transfers jobs and income from one part of the economy to another. As economist Ronald Utt has explained, "The only way that $1 billion of new highway spending can create 47,576 new jobs is if the $1 billion appears out of nowhere as if it were manna from heaven." The DOT tried to correct this misperception in an April 2008 memo specifying that their analysis refers to "jobs supported by highway investments, not jobs created" (italics in the original). The Government Accountability Office and Congressional Research Service also released studies making the same point. In reality, economic growth -- the act of producing more goods and services -- can be accomplished only by making American workers more productive. Productivity growth requires a motivated and educated workforce, sufficient levels of capital equipment and technology, a solid infrastructure, and a legal system and rule of law sufficient to enforce contracts. The best measure of a policy’s impact on economic growth is through productivity rates. Lower marginal tax rates encourage working, saving and investment, all of which increase productivity (as opposed to tax rebates, which are grants that require no additional productive efforts). Reforming -- rather than merely throwing money at -- education and infrastructure will raise future productivity. These necessary improvements would take time and shouldn’t be considered short-term "stimulus." It’s time for lawmakers to stop futilely trying to wave the magic wand of short-term "stimulus" spending, which threatens to push the deficit above $1 trillion. Focusing on productivity will build a stronger economy over the long run and leave America better prepared to handle future economic downturns. Brian M. Riedl is Grover M. Hermann Fellow in Federal Budgetary Affairs in the Thomas A. Roe Institute for Economic Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation. First Appeared in The Wall Street Journa |
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