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awareness pull the strings of ALL HUMAN BEHAVIOUR??? if it is NOT A CONSTANT HAPPENING AT ALL TIMES, then it show only a PARTIAL PERCEPTION, the same as a single human perception??? if the brain control many things indeed, as it see and taste and smell and touch, BUT WHAT IT ACCESS AS REALITY, or THRU THE EMOTION IT HAD, WHICH IS THE FIRST WAY OF HUMAN, then since there WERE INFINITE OTHER POSSIBLE REACTIONS SELF COULD HAVE MADE, SOMETHING HAS TO "TRIGGER" FIRST, THE SILENT THING THAT MADE PERCEIEVE AS IT DID??? OR ALL WOULD HAVE PERCEIEVD THE SAME!!! SO ALL HAD TO ALREADY EXIST, AS ALL ARE SEEING AND THINKING THE SAME, AND THIS IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE??? the same as, THE MIND CANNOT SEE THE OPPOSITE OF ALL IT THINK IS REALITY??? this come first in the natrual way of builign increased awareness, AS IF ALL FIRST AGREED, THEN NO GREATER QUESTIONS WOULD HAVE AROSE, AND NO GREATER QUESTIONS, NO INCREASED KNOWING??? how can self KNOW since it is self, THAT WITHOUT IT'S GREATER SELF OR LOGOS OR AWARENESS, it would BE BUT A COMPUTOR??? some wrote small pieces of what greater awareness whispered in recieving, some call it channeling, som call it god, some as gaurdian angel, some as jesus, some as socretee's, some as aristotle, some as john lennon, some as biddha, some as all the others, but truly intil one see all data of all MORTALS AS EQUAL, as who care's if some of the youth dispute what be, AS EACH "THING" ONLY DELIVERED UP A SINGLE SPECTRUM, and the same that created what EACH AND ALL OF THE PAST ONCE SPOKE, then cannot be unlocked WITHIN EACH ONE, to complete all data that is without, until EACH HUMANS DATA IS ALL TAKEN INTO THE COLLECTIVE SUPER POWER REASONING POWERS THE COLLECTIVE AWARENESS OF ALL HUMAN KIND??? it only take any BRAIN knowing that if it think something is WRONG, this be the GREATEST TELL THERE IS MORE IN IT, as only what sound wrong is as strange to the ears, so then naturally going to spur emotion unto accessing it as a wrong, BUT SURELY IT IS SEEN THAT IT IS ONLY WHAT EVER STRUCK ANY HUMAN MORTAL AS FIRST "NEGATIVE" THAT BUILT THE VERY PERCEPTION OF BREAKING THINGS INTO A CUT STREAM, AS SMALLER ENERGY, A LESSOR LIFE, A LESSOR AWARENESS??? NEGATIVE lead wisdom, while postive lead to folly and delusion, as what greater awareness cares what emotion is used to create happiness unto infinity??? I had to really read this carefully because I'm not used to the grammar useage. I have a difficult enough time with words, much less grammar - lol! As far as being able to perceive something as "it really" is and not with one's own past, to me that still takes a part of the brain to push the past out of the way. While there is a life force there which may already know things on a more esoteric plane, on a human plane, it may have the whole computer (brain) in the way and then goes into a "not know". I think to know oneself, there has to be "something" to know "about" and as a body, this might be gathered through the brain and stored in the brain and in the mind as well. Which leads to another question. Is the mind the brain? K |
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Hi - I'm asking this question because of what someone else brought up from another question I asked. Its pretty plain to see that if you cut out parts and pieces of our brain that certain things cease to function. Is "life" all in our heads? Kozee If your brain shuts down and you are still breathing, the you that did exist is gone, just a breathing organism remains with no memory, no emotion, no thoughts, no reactions, etc... So the mind is our life as we know it. I will give you an example, I have MS and during my last attack, which attacked parts of my brain, I lost memories. My children try to get me to remember these events and things we did but most of them are gone for good and will never come back. So sadly, I lost part of my life when my brain was attacked. Without our memories, thoughts, problem solving capability, reactions, emotions, etc.... The living body is nothing really. Memories are "life"? K |
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Hi - I'm asking this question because of what someone else brought up from another question I asked. Its pretty plain to see that if you cut out parts and pieces of our brain that certain things cease to function. Is "life" all in our heads? Kozee If your brain shuts down and you are still breathing, the you that did exist is gone, just a breathing organism remains with no memory, no emotion, no thoughts, no reactions, etc... So the mind is our life as we know it. I will give you an example, I have MS and during my last attack, which attacked parts of my brain, I lost memories. My children try to get me to remember these events and things we did but most of them are gone for good and will never come back. So sadly, I lost part of my life when my brain was attacked. Without our memories, thoughts, problem solving capability, reactions, emotions, etc.... The living body is nothing really. Memories are "life"? K If I ask you to describe your life, how do you do it? Memories? Experiences, which are memories, emotions felt, which are memories, etc... How can you tell me about your life without memories of how your life was or is? |
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Watch Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn; Overboard.
Wake up and start a new life. That's the choice, every dang day. Having survived a coma and loss of many memories and other things...I'm saying what it is. You choose a new life, every day, or you choose to repeat what you remember. Not remembering sucks bigtime. But you learn and you adjust and go forth with determination to live happily, today and tomorrow. Who can change the past, anyway? Change today. IMO |
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awareness, then to brain, then back to awareness so then now a forth or new awareness has come to be???
the first awareness, then all the brain CAUSED TO BE ADDED, then the two mixed toegther, WITH THE LAST AWARNESS, THEN MAKE A THIRD STATE, THAT CREATE NOW AS THE FORTH, or AS A NEW AWARENESS to start a new pro cess that span thru three parts of total pro cess??? the same as to be hot, then come into cold, then the mix be the third stage "mind alone always miss", then a FOURTH OR NEW FIRST STATE HAS NOW ADDED THE KNOWING OF HOW TO MAKE WARM??? then WARM, as A NEW AWARENESS, start again, AND NOW IT IS AS A COLD FIRST AGAIN, AS THE BAR HAS BEEN HIGHERED EACH TIME THE PRO CESS IS FULFILLED??? |
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Watch Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn; Overboard. Wake up and start a new life. That's the choice, every dang day. Having survived a coma and loss of many memories and other things...I'm saying what it is. You choose a new life, every day, or you choose to repeat what you remember. Not remembering sucks bigtime. But you learn and you adjust and go forth with determination to live happily, today and tomorrow. Who can change the past, anyway? Change today. IMO Agreed but what makes up your life is the question asked I believe. Memories are it. That is what your life is. |
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Watch Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn; Overboard. Wake up and start a new life. That's the choice, every dang day. Having survived a coma and loss of many memories and other things...I'm saying what it is. You choose a new life, every day, or you choose to repeat what you remember. Not remembering sucks bigtime. But you learn and you adjust and go forth with determination to live happily, today and tomorrow. Who can change the past, anyway? Change today. IMO Agreed but what makes up your life is the question asked I believe. Memories are it. That is what your life is. memories only created by a negative or positive emotion??? as if popping the awareness with a electrical charge of negative energy or positive energy??? so to for to only say leave the past in the past, only leave the knowing what one needed in the past as well, as if it is past that has any negative feeling able to be envoked, then it is still tainting the now??? in this way man human run from negative, which be the only thing that FIRST CREATE A MEMORY THAT IS NOT ONE WITH ALL ITSELF WAS BEFORE HUMAN??? as was not awareness first??? again, if there was not, THEN SELF WOULD NOT AS EXIST NOW, AS ALL NOW WAS CONTROLLED BY SOMETHING FIRST BEFORE SELF??? the same as to say, can a lawn mower be moving less something pushed it??? no human life could have come into the extreme process of humanity, without a very precice working and knowing of all energy, matter, and all things that all such thing are able to create??? SO IT IS MOST HARD TO LEAVE THE PAST, IF ANYTHING RUN FROM IF IF SOME OF IT WAS MARKED WITH PAIN, OR NEGATIVE, SO THEN WHEN SELF WISH TO AS CATCH UP TO ITSELF, is is like a spring pulling self back thru all memories, making self look into all that was first thought to be negative, and only when greater awareness, or "first awareness" that one "had" that was 100% as debunk all that was just as past, CAN THE PAST AS NO LONGER CHASE SELF, WHICH IS A DEBUNKING OF SORTS, WHICH ONLY "WILLED PLAN OR EFFORT TO ATTAIN" keep from the more, AS THIS THE CONSCIOUS MIND HAS NO POWER TO ENVOKE WITHIN ITSELF WITH A FIRST MOTIVE OF SOME CERTAIN THING, AS AWARENESS IN TOTAL AS 100% THE MIND HAS "NO POINTS OF REFERNCE TO SEEK THE RIGHT THING, SO IT CAN ONLY INTAKE ALL, and all as one, and one as all then begin the blooming of the human spieces into what the plan was all along...... the mind cannot see that to actually see negative response as the only debunking that free to heights of total awareness??? negative is what made the memory in the first place??? as if there is NOT NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE POWER, THEN WHAT OTHER POWER IS THERE??? ONLY PERPETUAL INFINITE, so this is as what lay BEHIND THE MEMORY??? what is left out of anything thing first by each thing that breath??? the negative of self most, lol........ as if one is what one does this instant, when one is all it ever was, is, and will be at all times, fo course this not being possible with a memory as it is ??? is it really that simply??? but then what makes one wish to hear all the words of negative, except total need of new, so then want of new, so bad until it hurts, and one would cut oneself just to feel alive as the prophets sing??? |
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Watch Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn; Overboard. Wake up and start a new life. That's the choice, every dang day. Having survived a coma and loss of many memories and other things...I'm saying what it is. You choose a new life, every day, or you choose to repeat what you remember. Not remembering sucks bigtime. But you learn and you adjust and go forth with determination to live happily, today and tomorrow. Who can change the past, anyway? Change today. IMO Agreed but what makes up your life is the question asked I believe. Memories are it. That is what your life is. memories only created by a negative or positive emotion??? as if popping the awareness with a electrical charge of negative energy or positive energy??? so to for to only say leave the past in the past, only leave the knowing what one needed in the past as well, as if it is past that has any negative feeling able to be envoked, then it is still tainting the now??? in this way man human run from negative, which be the only thing that FIRST CREATE A MEMORY THAT IS NOT ONE WITH ALL ITSELF WAS BEFORE HUMAN??? as was not awareness first??? again, if there was not, THEN SELF WOULD NOT AS EXIST NOW, AS ALL NOW WAS CONTROLLED BY SOMETHING FIRST BEFORE SELF??? the same as to say, can a lawn mower be moving less something pushed it??? no human life could have come into the extreme process of humanity, without a very precice working and knowing of all energy, matter, and all things that all such thing are able to create??? SO IT IS MOST HARD TO LEAVE THE PAST, IF ANYTHING RUN FROM IF IF SOME OF IT WAS MARKED WITH PAIN, OR NEGATIVE, SO THEN WHEN SELF WISH TO AS CATCH UP TO ITSELF, is is like a spring pulling self back thru all memories, making self look into all that was first thought to be negative, and only when greater awareness, or "first awareness" that one "had" that was 100% as debunk all that was just as past, CAN THE PAST AS NO LONGER CHASE SELF, WHICH IS A DEBUNKING OF SORTS, WHICH ONLY "WILLED PLAN OR EFFORT TO ATTAIN" keep from the more, AS THIS THE CONSCIOUS MIND HAS NO POWER TO ENVOKE WITHIN ITSELF WITH A FIRST MOTIVE OF SOME CERTAIN THING, AS AWARENESS IN TOTAL AS 100% THE MIND HAS "NO POINTS OF REFERNCE TO SEEK THE RIGHT THING, SO IT CAN ONLY INTAKE ALL, and all as one, and one as all then begin the blooming of the human spieces into what the plan was all along...... the mind cannot see that to actually see negative response as the only debunking that free to heights of total awareness??? negative is what made the memory in the first place??? as if there is NOT NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE POWER, THEN WHAT OTHER POWER IS THERE??? ONLY PERPETUAL INFINITE, so this is as what lay BEHIND THE MEMORY??? what is left out of anything thing first by each thing that breath??? the negative of self most, lol........ as if one is what one does this instant, when one is all it ever was, is, and will be at all times, fo course this not being possible with a memory as it is ??? is it really that simply??? but then what makes one wish to hear all the words of negative, except total need of new, so then want of new, so bad until it hurts, and one would cut oneself just to feel alive as the prophets sing??? David, if I am understanding you correctly you are speaking of the awareness that we be. The awareness that we are in the world, of the world. I agree but the awareness is still a part of our memory process. We are aware, we feel, we process, we react and all of it is part of our memory of the first time we became aware, the first time we felt, the first time we hurt, we first time enjoyed, etc.... It is all memory of all of this that makes it all happen. Without the memory of the first of anything we would not be as we know ourselves. |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Fri 01/30/09 04:01 PM
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All cognitive function is in the brain yes. All life, no. I think this is a good answer. The only question I have is - what about "perception"? Does one perceive from the brain or does one perceive outside of the body? K Where do things like "instinct" or maybe even some "psychic" ability come into play? Is that all in the brain too? Candace Pert (who was featured in What The Bleep Do We Know) has a book called Molecules of Emotion where she says she found that the brain has transmittors and receivers like a two way radio. You think our brains really have the power to transmit to far away places? K But seriously if you know someone who can demonstrate a psychic ability then for the love of humanity please have them follow this link, and fill out the application. http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge/challenge-application.html Even if they do not want the million dollars then they could donate it to research there abilities. If psychic abilities are real (which has never been shown to be true) then think of the amazing advancements that this would bring to humanity. Perhaps even world peace dependent on the ability and the scale of application. |
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indeed, i am saying all that, but most ignorant in explaining the more i wish to say, lol......
MEMORY IS NOT AWARENESS IS WHAT I AM SAYING??? MEMORY RESTRICT AWARENESS DOWN TO IT'S ESTIMATED 5-10% OF TOTAL "MINDS KNOWN ABILITY"??? have not many studied and found legions eating away at the brian, UNTIL ALL BUT ABOUT 10% WAS left, UNTIL THERE BEGAN TO BE ANY INTERUPTION OF SERVICES AVAILABLE??? more recent now studies that 95% of all human actions being controlled by SUBCONSCIOUS BRAIN??? so make brain and mind as ONE FIRST, the BRIAN AND AWARENESS ARE AS NOW WORKABLE??? brain feeing into self DATA, AND NOT BRAIN ANSWERING, BUT AWARENESS??? awareness is not brain so to speak, as all things spoken are true in SOME WAYS when speaking of these things, so IT IS ONLY MOST BENEFICIAL TO LOOK OR THINK OF IT IN THE WAY THAT WILL ALLOW MORE AWARENESS??? so then NO RIGHT AND WRONG BUT MORE AS WHAT CAN SOLVE MOST THE WAY THE PERSON "VIEW" ITSELF, and this only anything that is drawing from greater awareness can describe, and so each have a greater awareness trying to describe, BUT THE BRAIN FILTER OF TAKING IN SOME THINGS AS GOOD THINGS, AND SOME AS BAD THINGS, FIRST CREATE THE "VIEW" THAT SELF IS OR HAS MEMORY, as the only most real thing that has happened is the BRAIN REISITED MUCH DATA, CREATING ITSELF SO AS EVOLVING LOPSIDED, as seeing only thru a hlf logic, and this half logic is completed when self only turn and see NEGATIVE AS GOOD??? and this act in itself BRING TO BRAIN TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH AWARENESS THAT WAS HAD "BEFORE BIRTH AS HUMAN", which then solve all that was negative while human??? ok.....just thoughts peace |
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Hi - I'm asking this question because of what someone else brought up from another question I asked. Its pretty plain to see that if you cut out parts and pieces of our brain that certain things cease to function. Is "life" all in our heads? Kozee I personally don’t subscribe to the materialistic view of life. To me, concluding that “life” is made up of brain tissue because certain things cease to function when certain parts of the brain are removed is like concluding that that a driver is made up of car parts because removing parts of a car cause certain car functions to cease. The car ceases to function fully because it is no longer fully a car. But the driver is still fully a driver. He just can’t make the car do what he wants it to do until it gets fixed. |
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Memories are "life"? K If I ask you to describe your life, how do you do it? Memories? Experiences, which are memories, emotions felt, which are memories, etc... How can you tell me about your life without memories of how your life was or is? Mostly - yes, I agree. I don't think the majority has been trained or made aware to do it in any other way. I suppose if I had no memories and only "now", which instantly become a memory - things get really simple. Something like - here I am. And then it would be like having to retrain yourself everyday. Or, one would have to be able to absorb how to do things lightening fast because they'd only lose that memory later. Like a constant learning and creating all the time. I suppose that's what my life would be like. I don't even know if I could explain all that if I didn't remember. I'd exist, but I wouldn't know as what or who. Interesting :). K |
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Watch Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn; Overboard. Wake up and start a new life. That's the choice, every dang day. Having survived a coma and loss of many memories and other things...I'm saying what it is. You choose a new life, every day, or you choose to repeat what you remember. Not remembering sucks bigtime. But you learn and you adjust and go forth with determination to live happily, today and tomorrow. Who can change the past, anyway? Change today. IMO I saw that movie - also 50 First Dates which I thought was a lot closer to what it might be like to live without most memories. But yet, the person did retain "some" memories. Enough to know to take a shower, etc. She wasn't like an infant every day she woke up. For my mother, I think not remembering was like a blessing. She certainly became more relaxed and a lot funnier :). But then who makes the decision to be happier or not? Is it a memory that does that? or something else? K |
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Hi - I'm asking this question because of what someone else brought up from another question I asked. Its pretty plain to see that if you cut out parts and pieces of our brain that certain things cease to function. Is "life" all in our heads? Kozee No, I don't believe it is. Read the Holographic Universe, chapter 1 "The Brain as a Hologram." "It isn't that the world of appearances is wrong, it isn't that there aren't objects out there, at one level of reality. It's that if you penetrate through and look at the universe with a holographic system, you arrive at a different view, a different reality. And that other reality can explain things that have hitherto remained inexplicable scientifically, paranormal phenomena, synchronicities, the apparently meaningful coincidence of events. ~~Karl Pribram in an interview in Psychology today |
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You can believe we are more then what is here and now, but it gets us no where closer to understanding what is here and now.
If you brain is destroyed, then so is everything you relate to and call yourself. Nuff said, |
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Hi - I'm asking this question because of what someone else brought up from another question I asked. Its pretty plain to see that if you cut out parts and pieces of our brain that certain things cease to function. Is "life" all in our heads? Kozee Yes, and in my head, we're all partying. |
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You can believe we are more then what is here and now, but it gets us no where closer to understanding what is here and now. If you brain is destroyed, then so is everything you relate to and call yourself. Nuff said, How would you know that? First, you can only know that of another person by observing that he does not relate to you or this world. But, not being in his shoes, you cannot know if he still exists in another world. I do not identify "myself" as my body or my brain. Do you? The reason is because I have experienced awareness outside of my body and brain. Of course you will probably call that a delusion.  |
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Tue 02/03/09 08:04 PM
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Homo Sapiens are hunter-gatherers. We only sense what is necessary for us to survive. Just like a bee that can sense the flowers miles away by smell, or how the cat can sense things with his mustache in the dark or the shark senses electromagnetic vibrations of a fish close-by.
Are there more out there than we perceive as reality? Since we only see what we need to see, but ever since the human brain is becoming much more sophisticated (by thinking more and more) we start to sense more and more. |
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Hi - I'm asking this question because of what someone else brought up from another question I asked. Its pretty plain to see that if you cut out parts and pieces of our brain that certain things cease to function. Is "life" all in our heads? Kozee I personally don’t subscribe to the materialistic view of life. To me, concluding that “life” is made up of brain tissue because certain things cease to function when certain parts of the brain are removed is like concluding that that a driver is made up of car parts because removing parts of a car cause certain car functions to cease. The car ceases to function fully because it is no longer fully a car. But the driver is still fully a driver. He just can’t make the car do what he wants it to do until it gets fixed. I understand the philosophy of the spirit trapped in the body but what a miserable existance for the spirit to be trapped in an empty shell of no experiences, no new learning, no awe of sunrise, sunset, etc... Life is our brain for us in this physical world, there is no way around it, whether it be restricted by the memories as David suggested or the process of memories and creating memories as I suggested. Our brain is our life, our heart can beat without most of the brain granted but we would not know it. |
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in a way life is "all in our heads", but somehow, all that's outside also counts, also leaves a mark, and in a way shapes our lives.
there are numerous cases of people with what you described as "pieces cut out of the brain" that after a period of adaptation, react to stimulus from the outside world, which in a way is something that helps them "reconnect". so probably a mix, but our brain is definitely the mainframe :) 
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