Topic: Has Faith Evolved Into Witchcraft
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Thu 02/05/09 10:21 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/05/09 10:21 AM




Funch now it is YOU who are making stuff up. No that is not the way it happened. The event is very clear in my mind.

So stop trying to delude yourself.


"JennieBean"..all I'm saying is your experiences is just the same old same old hum drum of everyday living ....Gods don't need to drive cars and almost be in accidents and Gods don't need to hang in bars and then need someone to walk them to their car in the fear of someone hiding in the back seat ..but those thing does happen to the average person


No, they don't. bigsmile


which means it didn't happen to you ...because you are average


Yes I am. Note my edit.

I am very average.

And it did happen to me.

But it does not happen to everyone all the time or else there would never be any accidents or muggings or kidnappings.

gotcha! :wink:

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Thu 02/05/09 10:23 AM

If these kinds of 'miracles' or if this kind of 'subconscious information' was "normal" and happened 'all the time' then there would never be any more car accidents, and there would not be anymore kidnappings or robberies or muggings because people everywhere would be forewarned by their subconscious mind that knows more than they do and they would know how to prevent it.


"JennieBean" ...people may feel that they shouldn't go out of the house but they may have to pick up their child or something and something happens to them ...people have to live their life and can't hide under the bed because they may have a paraniod feeling or a panic attack

that's why what you went through wasn't a miracle...you were just lucky ...in fact you surviving your experience for all you know may have resulted in someone else dying...


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Thu 02/05/09 10:27 AM


If these kinds of 'miracles' or if this kind of 'subconscious information' was "normal" and happened 'all the time' then there would never be any more car accidents, and there would not be anymore kidnappings or robberies or muggings because people everywhere would be forewarned by their subconscious mind that knows more than they do and they would know how to prevent it.


"JennieBean" ...people may feel that they shouldn't go out of the house but they may have to pick up their child or something and something happens to them ...people have to live their life and can't hide under the bed because they may have a paraniod feeling or a panic attack

that's why what you went through wasn't a miracle...you were just lucky ...in fact you surviving your experience for all you know may have resulted in someone else dying...





There is no such thing as "lucky."

Knowing something... is not being paranoid.


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Thu 02/05/09 10:36 AM

Yes I am. Note my edit.

I am very average.

And it did happen to me.

But it does not happen to everyone all the time or else there would never be any accidents or muggings or kidnappings.

gotcha! :wink:


"JennieBean"..if that was true then that would mean that nothing bad has ever taken place in your entire life ...can you make that claim?

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Thu 02/05/09 10:37 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/05/09 10:38 AM


Yes I am. Note my edit.

I am very average.

And it did happen to me.

But it does not happen to everyone all the time or else there would never be any accidents or muggings or kidnappings.

gotcha! :wink:


"JennieBean"..if that was true then that would mean that nothing bad has ever taken place in your entire life ...can you make that claim?



Yes. Nothing really bad or damaging has ever happened in my life.



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Thu 02/05/09 10:51 AM



Yes I am. Note my edit.

I am very average.

And it did happen to me.

But it does not happen to everyone all the time or else there would never be any accidents or muggings or kidnappings.

gotcha! :wink:


"JennieBean"..if that was true then that would mean that nothing bad has ever taken place in your entire life ...can you make that claim?



Yes. Nothing really bad or damaging has ever happened in my life.


"JennieBean" ...remember you telling of your ex-husband abusing you and that bar of soap incident ...so is abuse damaging or is it good ...or are you going to say the abuse was good because you learned from it ....but either way the abuse still mean that something bad did happen in your life which means you were just busted for lieing ....

I told you a perry mason moment was coming...because people can never remember or keep straight all the lies they told

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Thu 02/05/09 11:03 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/05/09 11:05 AM




Yes I am. Note my edit.

I am very average.

And it did happen to me.

But it does not happen to everyone all the time or else there would never be any accidents or muggings or kidnappings.

gotcha! :wink:


"JennieBean"..if that was true then that would mean that nothing bad has ever taken place in your entire life ...can you make that claim?



Yes. Nothing really bad or damaging has ever happened in my life.


"JennieBean" ...remember you telling of your ex-husband abusing you and that bar of soap incident ...so is abuse damaging or is it good ...or are you going to say the abuse was good because you learned from it ....but either way the abuse still mean that something bad did happen in your life which means you were just busted for lieing ....

I told you a perry mason moment was coming...because people can never remember or keep straight all the lies they told



I don't consider that to be a "very bad thing" as compared to being kidnapped or murdered or killed in a car accident.

It was always within my control, and part of my life's lesson.

And it was my own conscious choice to stay in the relationship as long as I did ~~until I got sick of it and left. It was always within my control, hence it was a choice.

I do not tell lies..... ever.

sorry to disappoint you funches. bigsmile


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Thu 02/05/09 11:19 AM





Yes I am. Note my edit.

I am very average.

And it did happen to me.

But it does not happen to everyone all the time or else there would never be any accidents or muggings or kidnappings.

gotcha! :wink:


"JennieBean"..if that was true then that would mean that nothing bad has ever taken place in your entire life ...can you make that claim?



Yes. Nothing really bad or damaging has ever happened in my life.


"JennieBean" ...remember you telling of your ex-husband abusing you and that bar of soap incident ...so is abuse damaging or is it good ...or are you going to say the abuse was good because you learned from it ....but either way the abuse still mean that something bad did happen in your life which means you were just busted for lieing ....

I told you a perry mason moment was coming...because people can never remember or keep straight all the lies they told



I don't consider that to be a "very bad thing" as compared to being kidnapped or murdered or killed in a car accident.

It was always within my control, and part of my life's lesson.

And it was my own conscious choice to stay in the relationship as long as I did ~~until I got sick of it and left. It was always within my control, hence it was a choice.

I do not tell lies..... ever.

sorry to disappoint you funches. bigsmile


"JennieBean" ...wow listen to yourself trying to justify your abuse.... you were being abused by not as stranger off the street but by someone that supposedly loved you which makes it far more worster than a kidnapping or a mugging

either way we were talking about your life not everyone's else life and you claim that nothing bad ever taken place in your life and you lied probably because you was trying to forget ...

you are still in denial about the abuse and think it was your fault for staying ...it's called battered wife syndrome

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Thu 02/05/09 11:42 AM


I don't whine as much as your average person might because I take personal responsibility for my situation and for my choices in life. So I don't whine and cry or blame other people for my petty problems. I change them and I learn from them.

I don't sweat the small stuff funches. Maybe you do, but I don't. (And most of it is small stuff.)

But in the other two cases, it was not my choice to be hit by a fast moving truck or to be kidnapped by knife point by someone hiding in the back seat of my car. I chose not for that to happen, hence I was warned in advance by my subconscious mind.

Everyone makes bad choices in life and marriage and some will put up with it, and some will not. I decided not to put up with it and I changed my life and my choice. Simple solution to a simple problem. I also take full responsibility for my mistakes and my choices.




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Thu 02/05/09 12:10 PM

Everyone makes bad choices in life and marriage


and that "jennieBean" is why there are kidnappings and car accidents and abused spouses because the average person makes bad choices just like you did when you decided to marry your ex-husband ...

also if your subconscious is God then why didn't God divinely intervern and stop the marriage...

and if your God-like subconscious did warn you about your ex-husband before you met him then your decision to still marry him explains why there are still abused spouses kidnappings and muggings because the average person makes bad choices

there's no way out of this one "JennieBean"

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Thu 02/05/09 12:55 PM
Edited by ljcc1964 on Thu 02/05/09 12:58 PM





yep go lick your wounds


No worries. You didn't hurt me. Was that your intent?


"ljcc" my intent was to place you back on topic which you just refuse to do ... which means apparently you meant to do me harm ...I figured you probably just had a bad day and needed to vent ..


Wow. You assume a great deal. I must admit that your refusal to show proof for things you claim is bewildering. I cannot engage in a proper topic debate when you make a claim...without offering any evidence showing how you can prove it.

I don't have a problem with what you say....so much as how you say it. And how you address others with opposing views....making remarks about their character and being all taunting. It's just no fun and I'm not interested in discourse with you as you make it personal. So I'm sure you're going to reply with some comment about how you win and I ran away...but I won't be reading it. I just don't want to play with you anymore. waving

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Thu 02/05/09 01:04 PM


Everyone makes bad choices in life and marriage


and that "jennieBean" is why there are kidnappings and car accidents and abused spouses because the average person makes bad choices just like you did when you decided to marry your ex-husband ...

also if your subconscious is God then why didn't God divinely intervern and stop the marriage...



Because the conscious mind is always the one in charge. I consciously decided to marry him...against my inner judgment. Its called "Free Will."

and if your God-like subconscious did warn you about your ex-husband before you met him then your decision to still marry him explains why there are still abused spouses kidnappings and muggings because the average person makes bad choices

there's no way out of this one "JennieBean"


Yes but we learn by our mistakes. (And I learned a lot. He was not all bad either, just your average control freak. LOL He taught me karate, self defense and how to be a private investigator.)

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Thu 02/05/09 01:19 PM

Because the conscious mind is always the one in charge. I consciously decided to marry him...against my inner judgment. Its called "Free Will."


"jennieBean" ...you have no "Free Will" against Divine Intervention it's far more powerful than any conscious decision you can make...also if your subconscious was God it would have stopped the marriage by stopping you...

the point is that bad things does happen to you and even when you are for-warn about them you still make bad choices ....just like the average person

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Thu 02/05/09 01:31 PM


Because the conscious mind is always the one in charge. I consciously decided to marry him...against my inner judgment. Its called "Free Will."


"jennieBean" ...you have no "Free Will" against Divine Intervention it's far more powerful than any conscious decision you can make...also if your subconscious was God it would have stopped the marriage by stopping you...


If that were true, (and it is definitely not true) then there would be no "free will."

My divine subconscious is not "in charge" of my decisions (and neither is "God")

When it comes to a conscious decision made by me, I am in charge.

(But if that is your opinion, so be it for you. Sorry, I don't respect your authority to accept statements like that. They are just your opinion.)

the point is that bad things does happen to you and even when you are for-warn about them you still make bad choices ....just like the average person


No, the point is that if I make a conscious bad choice, I take full responsibility for the consequences.




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Thu 02/05/09 01:41 PM

No, the point is that if I make a conscious bad choice, I take full responsibility for the consequences.


well then take full responsibility for making the choice to lie when you claimed that nothing bad never happened in your life while you were allowing yourself to be abused by your ex-husband ...

being abuse is something bad and letting someone abuse you is something bad ...which means something bad did take place in your life ...the fact that you don't understand this is also something bad ...you are trying to equate being abuse as something good

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Thu 02/05/09 01:48 PM
Well funches, since you don't listen very well or read very well, or comprehend anything at all, and you just want to go in circles, I think I'm done with this conversation. bye. waving

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Thu 02/05/09 02:52 PM

Well funches, since you don't listen very well or read very well, or comprehend anything at all, and you just want to go in circles, I think I'm done with this conversation. bye. waving


"JennieBean"..how rude...

I listen very well and I read very well and I comprehend very well and I remember everything I read that you post or how else would I have busted you in that lie ...thanks for the Perry Mason moment


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Thu 02/05/09 03:47 PM


Well funches, since you don't listen very well or read very well, or comprehend anything at all, and you just want to go in circles, I think I'm done with this conversation. bye. waving


"JennieBean"..how rude...

I listen very well and I read very well and I comprehend very well and I remember everything I read that you post or how else would I have busted you in that lie ...thanks for the Perry Mason moment




You are delusional funches.

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Thu 02/05/09 04:34 PM



Well funches, since you don't listen very well or read very well, or comprehend anything at all, and you just want to go in circles, I think I'm done with this conversation. bye. waving


"JennieBean"..how rude...

I listen very well and I read very well and I comprehend very well and I remember everything I read that you post or how else would I have busted you in that lie ...thanks for the Perry Mason moment




You are delusional funches.


"JennieBean" ....you mean your God-like subconscious allow someone delusional to bust you in a lie ...

you were a prime example of the lenghts people will go to protect their faith and beliefs ...just as predicted in the original post you tried to wield your faith like it was witchcraft claiming normal happenstances to be miracles with the intent of placing yourself into the role of God ...


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Thu 02/05/09 04:43 PM
Edited by feralcatlady on Thu 02/05/09 04:44 PM