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Topic: CREATION VERSUS EVOLUTION MADE CLEAR !!!
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Fri 02/06/09 02:09 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Fri 02/06/09 02:33 AM
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http://www.dianedew.com/creation.htm


key verse: "Everything Reproduces AFTER... ITS...OWN...KIND!!"

meaning: Evolution Into a WHOLE OTHER SPECIES Will NEVER EVER HAPPEN!!

Now , Can Evolution Take Place WITHIN a Species?

Yes..but WITHIN the Species ONLY!!

Simply Because.....

Evolution WITHIN a Species,

STILL REMAINS... OF ... IT'S... OWN... KIND!!!


flowerforyou:heart:drinker:heart:drinker:heart:drinker:heart:flowerforyou




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polaritybear's photo
Fri 02/06/09 02:15 AM
Edited by polaritybear on Fri 02/06/09 02:15 AM
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God..."

Why is it assumed that people who believe in evolution do not believe in a creator?


Hello happy *

justinc1431's photo
Fri 02/06/09 02:19 AM

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God..."

Why is it assumed that people who believe in evolution do not believe in a creator?


Hello happy *


Mainly because the Bible says that God created man in his image, yet evolution says we evolved from primates. Not really a grey area there unless God's image is a chimp... atleast that's my opinion.

polaritybear's photo
Fri 02/06/09 02:24 AM


"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God..."

Why is it assumed that people who believe in evolution do not believe in a creator?


Hello happy *


Mainly because the Bible says that God created man in his image, yet evolution says we evolved from primates. Not really a grey area there unless God's image is a chimp... atleast that's my opinion.


You can believe in a creator without reading the bible.

Why cant gods image be a chimp?

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Fri 02/06/09 02:39 AM
Know any chimps that can type on a keyboard ?

Or talk?

Or dress themselves?

Or write?

Or cook a grand dinner for two?

Or reason?

Or think?

Know any?

Even one?

Just maybe..one?
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


MahanMahan's photo
Fri 02/06/09 03:11 AM
Edited by MahanMahan on Fri 02/06/09 03:13 AM



"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God..."

Why is it assumed that people who believe in evolution do not believe in a creator?


Hello happy *


Mainly because the Bible says that God created man in his image, yet evolution says we evolved from primates. Not really a grey area there unless God's image is a chimp... atleast that's my opinion.


You can believe in a creator without reading the bible.

Why cant gods image be a chimp?



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Fri 02/06/09 03:35 AM
IF man evolved or even diverged from a chimp......

then why

is the chimp still around ?
think


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MahanMahan's photo
Fri 02/06/09 04:24 AM

IF man evolved or even diverged from a chimp......

then why

is the chimp still around ?
think


:heart::heart::heart:




You're not serious, are you?

Just google "Are chimps evolving?" and read the articles!

MahanMahan's photo
Fri 02/06/09 04:28 AM
http://enough_already.tripod.com/creation.htm

Also please check out the above link...

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Fri 02/06/09 05:08 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Fri 02/06/09 05:11 AM


IF man evolved or even diverged from a chimp......

then why

is the chimp still around ?
think


:heart::heart::heart:




You're not serious, are you?

Just google "Are chimps evolving?" and read the articles!


Are chimps evolving?

Perhaps so....and if so....it

would ONLY be WITHIN their OWN

SPECIES!!


BUT....

chimps CANNOT evolve into a WHOLE

OTHER SPECIES !!!!

NEVER HAVE and NEVER WILL!!!

Cause God's WORD does NOT Lie.

flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

Seamonster's photo
Fri 02/06/09 05:16 AM

Know any chimps that can type on a keyboard ?

Or talk?

Or dress themselves?

Or write?

Or cook a grand dinner for two?

Or reason?

Or think?

Know any?

Even one?

Just maybe..one?
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou




you have no real understanding of evolution.

Seamonster's photo
Fri 02/06/09 05:18 AM



IF man evolved or even diverged from a chimp......

then why

is the chimp still around ?
think


:heart::heart::heart:




You're not serious, are you?

Just google "Are chimps evolving?" and read the articles!


Are chimps evolving?

Perhaps so....and if so....it

would ONLY be WITHIN their OWN

SPECIES!!


BUT....

chimps CANNOT evolve into a WHOLE

OTHER SPECIES !!!!

NEVER HAVE and NEVER WILL!!!

Cause God's WORD does NOT Lie.

flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


we share 89% the same DNA as the ape.
I'm sure god did that just to mess with us so people will think we evolved and then more people will go to his hell.

MahanMahan's photo
Fri 02/06/09 05:19 AM
I see...!

OK, here is an excerpt from the link I wanted you to check out:

Biblical Creationism presents a major roadblock to ecological thinking. It's often used as an excuse to trivialize nature and justify human greed. Many people mix Christianity with politics and force their rule on others. In America, this violates the Constitutional separation of Church and State but it happens all the time. Creationism undermines scientific literacy and disrupts higher education.

The Bible was written by people who claim to have "spoken to God." The book only exists in Earthly form and is no different than any other book except for its contents. It doesn't glow in the dark, and people who open it are not propelled upward on a beam of light. It's just a book (albeit with some wise advice in it) and it's clearly figurative in many areas. Creationists use a ridiculous circular argument which states that the Bible is literal because the "Bible says so" (which it never actually does). Don't bother pointing out the absurdity of this argument, because they have as many rationalizations as there are verses in the Bible. And they are willing to change the context of scripture to whatever suits the argument at hand. If science proves that Jesus couldn't have walked on water, Creationists will claim that the water was frozen, and so on. ...


TBRich's photo
Fri 02/06/09 05:37 AM
Evolution does not say that man evolved from chimps, but that they had a common ancestor. Perhaps you should study what evolution actually says before you make your claims.

justinc1431's photo
Tue 02/10/09 03:15 AM

Evolution does not say that man evolved from chimps, but that they had a common ancestor. Perhaps you should study what evolution actually says before you make your claims.


So how exactly do you have a "common ancestor" with another creature and not share the same gentics? Makes no sense to me.

Seamonster's photo
Tue 02/10/09 03:52 AM


Evolution does not say that man evolved from chimps, but that they had a common ancestor. Perhaps you should study what evolution actually says before you make your claims.


So how exactly do you have a "common ancestor" with another creature and not share the same gentics? Makes no sense to me.


we do.
About 98% the same.

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Tue 02/10/09 06:37 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 02/10/09 06:47 AM

Know any chimps that can type on a keyboard ?

Or talk?

Or dress themselves?

Or write?

Or cook a grand dinner for two?

Or reason?

Or think?

Know any?

Even one?

Just maybe..one?
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


Your ignorance is astounding. So once was mine. I once believed as you do. Now I accept the facts as they are . . .

Once upon a time I knew next to nothing about how evolution actually works.

Get educated, this link has tons of info, both highly educational websites including universities, popular videos, as well as class room lectures.

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/202703

Once you understand how evolution works it becomes clear there is no mechanism to prevent morphological changes that would alter a species enough to keep it from breeding back with its ancestor species. Once that happens then small changes add up due to the fact the genetic material can no longer be passed between these population, and thus the changes add up, the difference becomes greater and greater.

Micro and macro evolution are the same thing, only on different time scales.

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Tue 02/10/09 02:21 PM
Edited by norslyman on Tue 02/10/09 02:24 PM
I heard this new age guy on coast to coast radio show recently. All you evolution people are setting yourselves up for the GREAT DECEPTION that is soon coming. The next great evolutionary leap forward - which is of course the same old lie from the garden. These people are very cunning and believable. Even Christians will be decieved.
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2012 & Human Evolution
In the first half of the program, researcher and lecturer David Wilcock spoke about the year 2012, and presented scientific data which shows big changes are in store for humanity in the near future. According to Wilcock, crop circles have been pointing toward a profound event centered around 2012. A recent crop circle formation accurately displayed the planetary alignment for the exact day when the Mayan Calendar will end, he noted.

Wilcock said the entire solar system is going through a transformation that can be seen in interplanetary climate change as well as in the rapid evolution of human beings. Wilcock referred to the work of Prof. John Hawks, an anthropologist at the University of Wisconsin, who has been studying the speed of evolution. Present day humans are more genetically different from people of 3000 B.C. than the people of 3000 B.C. were from Neanderthals, he pointed out.

Wilcock discussed the groundbreaking research by Russian scientist A.B. Burlakov that suggests an energy field, or "biofield," is feeding life, perhaps causing mass evolution to occur. He shared details from a study by V. Budakovski in which raspberry callus tissue was healed by projecting a hologram of a healthy raspberry plant into the sick one. As further evidence of the transitory and changeable nature of DNA, Wilcock mentioned the work of Dr. Peter Gariaev, who found he could use laser light to turn frog embryos into salamander embryos.

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Us Christians will of course be holding up the next great leap forward with our outdated beliefs. We will be standing in the way of YOUR GODHOOD, that is why we will be killed and you will think you are doing us a service. :wink:

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Tue 02/10/09 02:41 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 02/10/09 02:46 PM


Evolution does not say that man evolved from chimps, but that they had a common ancestor. Perhaps you should study what evolution actually says before you make your claims.


So how exactly do you have a "common ancestor" with another creature and not share the same gentics? Makes no sense to me.


You understand you are not a chimp correct? A hominid is any member of the biological family Hominidae (the "great apes"), including the extinct and extant humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans. This was our common ancestor. Forensic artists made this model from her skeletal remains.



This is a fleshed out model rendition of Lucy. "Lucy" (Australopithecus afarensis) dating back about 3 million years.

justinc1431's photo
Tue 02/10/09 03:46 PM
I guess the phrase "common ancestor" is throwing me off. If you and I had a common ancestor, we would have the same bloodline. Just confusing that if we share a common ancestor with apes/chimps/monkeys/whatever, that we wouldn't have the same bloodline; or have evolved from that species. I'm not that into this topic, it just kinda caught my attention. At this point in my life I'm not sure what to believe.

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