Topic: How to make them listen- TAX REVOLT ANYONE?
norslyman's photo
Mon 02/09/09 08:40 AM
A Tax Revolt Hits The United States In 2009?

Widespread rebellions, tax revolts, and food riots coming to America

In 2008, I wrote a book entitled “No More Taxes,” which gave concerned Americans and foreigners the historical and spiritual perspective on taxation. I revealed how Jesus actually felt about tax collectors and the cunning Jewish Temple which sold out his small nation to the heavy-hand of the Roman oppressors. No More Taxes clearly depicts Jesus the Christ being murdered, by crucifixion, for his wildly public commentary against Caesar’s orders to collect a Poll Tax from all Jews living in Judaea and abroad.

Unfortunately, our country and our world doesn’t have a revolutionist like Jesus any longer. He stood firmly against everything big government sought to take away from the individual. He insisted on love than hate, giving up one’s accumulated riches than hoarding, turning the other cheek than striking back, and so on.

If Jesus walked the earth in our present age, the Illumunati, our world leaders, and co-conspirators would have much to fear! Certainly, they would conspire to kill a rebel with such an outspoken stance against taxes and government.

Since we no longer have Jesus to stand up for us, what if we lived like he did and revolted against the fraudalent system that has become the United States federal government? What if all citizens throughout the world, no matter their nationality or ethnicity, stood against their governments and refused to pay taxes?

Queen Boadicea from East Anglia started a revolution attributed to the corrupt tax collectors in the British Isles. In 60 ADE, the revolt she led killed all Roman soldiers within a 100 mile radius. Her No More Taxes revolutionary resistance movement was able to seize London. It is reported 80,000 Roman soldiers were massacred during her revolt. Those 80,000 soldiers faced an unexpected army of 230,000 armed tax resisters.

Maybe it is time for people everywhere to stand up against their governments and revolt.

In fact, the United States might be the last of the nations to stand up. Other people in different countries are already rioting, insisting their governments bow down to their will and desire. A lot of Americans, all throughout the country, seem to enjoy the financial rape that has been forced upon us and our future generations. When will we finally stick up for ourselves and our children’s children?

Gerald Celente predicts a rebellion will hit the United States with widespread food riots and a tax revolt by the year 2012. Celente, the man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash, said in a recent interview:

“There will be a revolution in this country,” he said. “It’s not going to come yet, but it’s going to come down the line and we’re going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen.”

“The first thing to do is organize with tax revolts. That’s going to be the big one because people can’t afford to pay more school tax, property tax, any kind of tax. You’re going to start seeing those kinds of protests start to develop.”
Will a tax revolt hit the United States in 2009?

According to Gerald Celente, it’s the first stage in overthrowing the corrupt goverment leaders and forcing them to listen to the People.

Here’s a 1-page flyer (pictured above) you can print out and distribute around your city and state. Feel free to download and re-post this image anywhere on the Internet. Let us join together with one voice and proclaim our freedom. Because, if we don’t fight for it now, our children will be slaves!

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http://freedomarizona.org/2009/02/09/a-tax-revolt-hits-the-united-states-in-2009/

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Mon 02/09/09 08:52 AM
IN!!

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Mon 02/09/09 09:18 AM
Edited by CircuitRider on Mon 02/09/09 09:20 AM
Although I have no doubt that a tax-revolt is coming, this is not a Biblical teaching...

This will only bring death and hardship upon those who participate in such a revolution.frustrated


Romans 13 (NKJV)

Submit to Government


1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.

4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake.

6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.


People want everything;

Protection from criminals...

Individual rights assured under the laws of the land...

A living wage for their labor...

Security when they grow old...

Medical care and Education for their children...

Clean air and water...

The list goes on forever...

slaphead Without taxes, who is going to pay for all this?huh



nogames39's photo
Mon 02/09/09 09:32 AM
Without taxes, we can still pay for the largesses, by printing more money (taxing through inflation), as usual.

But, without taxes, everyone will be switching for other money, and that is a big big problem for the government. This is why, and only why, there will be enforcement of tax collection.

norslyman's photo
Mon 02/09/09 05:07 PM

Although I have no doubt that a tax-revolt is coming, this is not a Biblical teaching...

This will only bring death and hardship upon those who participate in such a revolution.frustrated


Romans 13 (NKJV)

Submit to Government


1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.

4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake.

6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.


People want everything;

Protection from criminals...

Individual rights assured under the laws of the land...

A living wage for their labor...

Security when they grow old...

Medical care and Education for their children...

Clean air and water...

The list goes on forever...

slaphead Without taxes, who is going to pay for all this?huh






You need to google: comprehensive annual financial reports exposed

In as much as we are a Facist Nation, the government and corporations work hand in glove. They have PLENTY of money, they just don't show YOU the REAL ledgers. Therefore, we always feel obligated to pay for our own slavery.




THE CAFR SHELL GAME-THE REVOLUTION-BE A PART OF IT!


"GROSS" INCOME of government is now 1/3rd "TAX" income and 2/3rds NON-TAX income derived from: return on INVESTMENTS and money generated from government Enterprise projects.


Any Company or in fact Country can be "made" or "broken" through the use of those government investment funds. China and India in 2007 restricted new US "Government" investments, now several trillion dollars strong in China and India so that US Government investments would not further increase control (take-over) in their own markets. China and India learned by seeing what happened to Mexico then Russia when the US Government investment machine came rolling on in.


If US Government cashed in their International investment chips (held outside of the dollar), in conversion back to the dollar, the dollar would shoot through the roof, get it?


A complete government and (taken over by government) syndicated news media blackout has existed for over 60 years and it started back in 1946. WAKE UP! THIS IS FACT, NOT FICTION AND IT AFFECTS YOUR EVERY DAY LIFE!

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Tue 02/10/09 12:31 AM

Unfortunately, our country and our world doesn’t have a revolutionist like Jesus any longer. He stood firmly against everything big government sought to take away from the individual. He insisted on love than hate, giving up one’s accumulated riches than hoarding, turning the other cheek than striking back, and so on.


If Jesus was around now, I'd give him about two weeks before the Vatican or the American government assassinates him. In the old days, that sort of stuff took time. He had several months or more until he was crucified. (Sorry, am I being *really* offensive?)

Also, we don't need Jesus to stand up for us. I'm sure he hoped that *we'd* stand up for ourselves.

Finally, I think a tax revolt at this time is one of the worst things we could do. Most importantly, taxes means no public education. For everything else - roads and transportation, national defense, etc., I think the private sector would take up those responsibilities. After all, businesses need transportation to ship and receive things, and although national defense may go down the tubes, regional defense might not. The military would become 100% privatized like Black Water and a mercenary army might enforce martial law in America. Then, it may start going to other countries to create war because, well, war is profitable.

I know raiderfan will call all this "Fantasy," and in this case, I'd have to agree. I do think that removing taxes would destroy the power of our government, though. Without any power, because our country is so capitalistic, because businesses already have so much power, and because the military-industrial complex is so well-developed, I do think a stop of tax revenue would be the end of America. It may not happen quite like I say it, but I contend that it is a possibility.

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Tue 02/10/09 12:38 AM
If US Government cashed in their International investment chips (held outside of the dollar), in conversion back to the dollar, the dollar would shoot through the roof, get it?


By my understanding, if the dollar shot through the roof, no one would ever buy *any* American goods or come to America *at all* for tourism. It'd almost be like a one-way close on our borders, and we'd hardly be able to sell our own domestic products to ourselves because everyone else's stuff would be so much cheaper by comparison (look at how virtually everything we buy is made in countries with weak currencies and cheap labor).

Finally, if what I wrote above is correct, wouldn't us raising our currency be like shooting ourselves in the foot? Granted, the American people would be happy 'cause what we'd be able to buy imports easier, and those with money would be able to travel all over the globe much more, but our economy would totally be in the drain.

nogames39's photo
Tue 02/10/09 02:21 AM

Unfortunately, our country and our world doesn’t have a revolutionist like Jesus any longer. He stood firmly against everything big government sought to take away from the individual.
He insisted on love than hate, giving up one’s accumulated riches than hoarding, turning the other cheek than striking back, and so on.


Very fortunately so. Insisting on love gives birth to nothing but hate.

Why don't you start yourself, with giving up your own accumulated riches? Ah, I see, you were talking about riches of others. I agree here. It is always pleasant thing to give away someone else's riches.

What is hoarding?

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Tue 02/10/09 10:00 AM
I think a lot of people are going to stop paying taxes because they simply cannot afford to - and with some political motivation. I just saw a news story last night about people dropping auto insurance for this reason - a growing trend. It will be the same attitude as letting their house get forclosed on - what have I got to lose? When somebody is choosing between food and paying taxes, I think they will pick food. And as the trend snowballs, many people will jump abourd - they can't catch us all.

Gerald Celente is a very well respected trends researcher, and I feel he is right on the money with this prediction.

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Tue 02/10/09 10:14 AM
Did anyone notice how Wesley Snipes case suddenly dropped from all the media attention? Because for the most part HE WON! And they don't want you to know that!

This is from another prominent tax protester - Tom Cryer::wink:

BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR STREETS,
OUR SCHOOLS, OUR GARBAGE PICKUP?


None of these government services will be interrupted or threatened by holding the federal government to the truth. These are all functions of STATE and LOCAL governments, governments in which we have a say, where we can actually talk to our state legislators and city councilmen.


The States receive SOME of our money back from the federal government for streets and schools, but ALWAYS with STRINGS ATTACHED. These strings mean YOUR MONEY is being used to make the States FEDERAL PUPPETS—FEDERAL COLONIES. The State governments are supposed to be OUR PUPPETS! They are supposed to get their money from us and answer to us for it, not some outside authority.


LET US DECIDE what laws we want, what services we want and how we are going to pay for those services. GIVE US THE STRINGS to our State governments back! AFTER ALL, IT IS OUR MONEY PAYING FOR THOSE STRINGS!


Imagine what your state and community could do if you sent only half of what the federal government has been stealing from you directly to your state and community coffers. That is far more than they are able to beg back, now. You could have better streets and better schools FOR HALF the burden. Not only that, but they will be built where you want them and run the way you choose to run them, not according to the dictates of some bureaucrat in Washington writing out thousands of conditions to attach to your money your State is begging the federal government to return.


The other half of YOUR money the federal government has been stealing would go to YOU and YOUR family, to be spent in YOUR state and city, to create jobs and prosperity for YOUR community, not to
feather the nest of a lot of federal deadwood.


Imagine how much better and faster the wagon would go if some of those riding had to get out, lightening the load, and then actually help us pull!


THIS STRUGGLE IS NOT JUST ABOUT TAXES—IT IS ABOUT FREEDOM!!


TOM IS RISKING EVERYTHING—WILL YOU RISK A FEW DOLLARS TO HELP

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Tue 02/10/09 12:39 PM
"If only each King, Emperor, and President understood that his work of directing armies is not an honorable and important duty, as his flatterers persuade him it is, but a bad and shameful act of preparation for murder – and if each private individual understood that the payment of taxes wherewith to hire and equip soldiers, and, above all, army-service itself, are not matters of indifference, but are bad and shameful actions by which he not only permits but participates in murder – then this power of Emperors, Kings, and Presidents, which now arouses our indignation… would disappear of itself".-----Leo Tolstoy

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Wed 02/11/09 07:32 PM

IN!!


Ditto.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 02/11/09 08:57 PM

I think a lot of people are going to stop paying taxes because they simply cannot afford to - and with some political motivation. I just saw a news story last night about people dropping auto insurance for this reason - a growing trend. It will be the same attitude as letting their house get forclosed on - what have I got to lose? When somebody is choosing between food and paying taxes, I think they will pick food. And as the trend snowballs, many people will jump abourd - they can't catch us all.

Gerald Celente is a very well respected trends researcher, and I feel he is right on the money with this prediction.


Is That You Rambill?

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Fri 02/13/09 01:22 PM
yeah...the Illumanati were sure hellbent on raising taxes and killing the Messiah...(SARCASM).
Is everything a bleeding conspiracy that has to affect some aspect of our lives? There is a way that the world works, I agree it ain't perfect, it could be a helluva lot more efficient...but this is the hand we are dealt in life. Be glad ya ain't starvin to death in some third world country and have the ABILITY to gripe about paying taxes. I'd probally even be willing to pay more, if I knew that they were being used for a worthy cause. No matter how bad ya think ya have it, at least you had something to eat this week

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Fri 02/13/09 06:16 PM
I guess not everyone out there knows that by the definition we are not taxpayers and a little education would really surprise some that think they are supposed to pay them as the IRS think !!

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Mon 02/16/09 09:28 AM
Here is a real American hero who is now in jail four OUR rights - a political prisoner. It is hard to understand how some tax protesters win, and some go to jail. You have to present your case absolutely perfectly to win, but you can!:smile:


STATEMENT OF SHERRY PEEL JACKSON, CPA, CFE

I am a Certified Public Accountant, a Certified Fraud Examiner and a former-IRS Agent. I became a CPA in 1987, a CFE in 2001, and I worked at the IRS in Atlanta, Georgia, as a Revenue Agent from January 1988 through May 1995. I did well as an IRS agent. As a matter of fact, it was the best job that I ever had. I received a fraud award my first year there. Later, I received numerous awards including an award from the inspection division for a bribery case, and an award from the IRS commissioner himself.

I left the IRS because as a wife and mother, the IRS was getting much more of my time and energy than my family. As a Christian wife and mother, I had to choose family. I came home to be "June Cleaver".


WHAT PROMPTED YOU TO RESEARCH THE TAX LAW AFTER YOU LEFT THE IRS?


After leaving the IRS and by the end of the first year, I decided to start a small accounting practice, specializing in helping people avoid IRS problems. Then, in 1999 I started meeting people with these unusual claims that the income tax doesn't apply to citizens of America. I didn't tell them that they were crazy, but I also didn't try to prove them wrong. Like most people, I just ignored their claims and went on with life.

Then, some of my special clients, pastors, started asking questions about it; stating that their members were talking about the income tax being illegal.

One such pastor called me and asked me to speak with one of the church members that had been given very specific information on the income tax. This member and I talked for hours, and then she told me about a USA Today ad on July 7, 2000.

I pulled the USA Today ad up on a website that she gave me. The website belongs to the We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education, headed by Mr. Robert Schulz in Queensbury New York. Within this full-page ad was a $50,000 challenge given my Mr. William Conklin. To this day I have not met Mr. Conklin, but thank God he had the wisdom and the guts to put his money where his mouth is. The challenge was to (1) Show how to file a federal income tax return without waving one's 5th amendment rights and (2) identify the section of the Internal Revenue Code that makes a typical worker liable to pay an income tax.

I was bound and determined to win that $50,000. I even had the money spent in my mind. I thought - Humm, after tithes and offerings, I can pay off a few bills, go on a nice vacation. . This will be a synch. Well, I pulled out my codes and regulations and began to gather the information to prepare a report for Mr. Conklin, sighting all of the answers that he asked for.

Three days later, I was sitting at my desk with no answer. I sat the codes and regulations aside for a few days and picked them up again. Determined not go give up. The next week, while sitting at my desk, scratching my head, I realized that there was a BIG problem with what the people are told versus what the codes and regulations say.

At that point I had to make a decision. Not only was it a personal decision but a moral decision. My Christian background taught me to be honest and truthful, but above all, choose GOD over man. Here before me was credible evidence that the American people are being robbed of their hard earned wages, that this fraud has been perpetuated for almost a century through fear and intimidation, and that our government is ignoring the cries of the people for answers to this crisis.

I had to decide whether I was going to be an informed slave or get off of the plantation.

I decided to get off of the plantation and actively educate others and myself about the misapplication and misrepresentation of the federal income tax.