...why do women whine and complain that don't even have a photo up? It makes the whining and complaining so impersonal. I feel like I'm talking to a wall. Generalize- its the new fad.

I'm like geez- don't you have any freaking freinds you can torment, torture, abuse, and dump this crap on? Why me? What the f*ck did I ever do to you? Look at me closely- closely- closely- do I look like I give a sh!t? Ha ha ha ha!!! Good luck dating lying men!

When and where was your name on this personally Thank You That is why men like you don't catch my attention. Yeah I have friends and all of them agree men for the most part are not men they're boys in a grown mans body.

Start dating boys then...

Biker, like most of us grownups who've been on this site for a while, has gotten sick and tired of the gender bashing crap. The only difference is that he pulls no punches.

Start dating womem

Might as well they would probably treat me better.

There again might get treated better

If most men are not like you think a man should be, then you must have a misconception about what a man is.

I agree with you, a lot of men do lie and treat women with little respect. Not all though, and not even the majority. Your experience and that of your friends may well show that men are liars. But that doesnt really say much positive about you.

If i was the type of man to be treated like crap by a woman, i might have had several experiences of this. Because i am the type of man to never be treated like crap by a woman, i dont have a single experience of it.

Im not sure if i blame you or the men the most for your experiences. Its a close call.

Where did honesty go out the window with faithfullness(for one)? That's alot of why I don't have alot of experience is because of the lies before getting to know me. Is it to much to ask for a man to be honest if he expects me to be honest.Like I corrected myself earlier in this topic. It may not be all men but alot of them.

if you wanna stay negative about it all then things will be negative. There ARE good men out there so get positive about finding one and eventually you will.

Otherwise, either dont bother, or accept men for what you think they are.

Not bothering anymore cause all the good ones I have found are taken or they're family.

There you go again.

Im outta here, i cant bare to be around such negativity.

Im starting to think you are doing it on purpose as well.

Good luck.

Waste of time Dan. Keith and I figured that out yesterday.

All I'm gonna say is darn busted doing this on purpose

That figures. I'll go ahead and thank you for everyone... Thanks for wasting our time. I'll spread the word.

What your obviously trying to say is that I don't look for men that don't cheat and that's why I have the opinion I do? Come on now, get real.

IndnPrncs once commented on how some threads should just die. I'm pretty certain this one, which stinks of baggage and bitterness is one such thread.