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Edited by
yellowrose10
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the sources people use to post threads are considered in a debate
posting blogs is not wrong...if you ask the opinions about the opinion. |
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oh well, you guys are cute anyway.
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pot....kettle calling
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cute!!!
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all i did was provide the link for people to see all of it and form an opinion. have something against that?
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Amazing!!!
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I don't understand any complaints then. there are so many agenda driven conspiracy nuts on here that everything that happens in the news is presented in the form of some kind of conspiracy. I mean EVERYTHING 
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Edited by
Winx
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Mon 03/09/09 08:21 AM
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are you guys reading it or did you read a couple lines and figure there was nothing to it. We're doing more then reading. We're investigating different resources and talking about it. Hmm...maybe this is the problem....we're not just looking at your information. We're looking at more. We needed more information. Btw, your source is gone. |
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are you guys reading it or did you read a couple lines and figure there was nothing to it. We're doing more then reading. We're investigating different resources and talking about it. Hmm...maybe this is the problem....we're not just looking at your information. We're looking at more. We needed more information. Btw, your source is gone. LMAO!!!!! copy paste the link at the bottom of the first page. my source is not gone. that shows me your level of researching LMAO!@!!!!!!!!!! |
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you ladies should start your own snopes LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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are you guys reading it or did you read a couple lines and figure there was nothing to it. We're doing more then reading. We're investigating different resources and talking about it. Hmm...maybe this is the problem....we're not just looking at your information. We're looking at more. We needed more information. Btw, your source is gone. LMAO!!!!! copy paste the link at the bottom of the first page. my source is not gone. that shows me your level of researching LMAO!@!!!!!!!!!! NEWS FLASH....THAT IS WHAT I DID THAT YOU ARE NOW COMPLAINING ABOUT I was the one that provided the correct link to just click on |
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Edited by
Winx
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Mon 03/09/09 08:38 AM
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are you guys reading it or did you read a couple lines and figure there was nothing to it. We're doing more then reading. We're investigating different resources and talking about it. Hmm...maybe this is the problem....we're not just looking at your information. We're looking at more. We needed more information. Btw, your source is gone. LMAO!!!!! copy paste the link at the bottom of the first page. my source is not gone. that shows me your level of researching LMAO!@!!!!!!!!!! http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c1112RD9bb:e11439: |
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The right to grow my own veggies in my own garden and share them with my neighbors is very important to me and to my neighbors who all grow their own veggies.
And now is not the time to take that option away from people in the name of anything. I read the bill last night before going to sleep and I can't find anything that would suggest we are going to have this option taken away from us. I would like to know more about this and if it's real. Maybe I am typing the wrong search terms... |
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The right to grow my own veggies in my own garden and share them with my neighbors is very important to me and to my neighbors who all grow their own veggies. And now is not the time to take that option away from people in the name of anything. I read the bill last night before going to sleep and I can't find anything that would suggest we are going to have this option taken away from us. I would like to know more about this and if it's real. Maybe I am typing the wrong search terms... I'm doing a veggie garden for the 2nd time this summer. Here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875 Rose found it. |
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The right to grow my own veggies in my own garden and share them with my neighbors is very important to me and to my neighbors who all grow their own veggies. And now is not the time to take that option away from people in the name of anything. I read the bill last night before going to sleep and I can't find anything that would suggest we are going to have this option taken away from us. I would like to know more about this and if it's real. Maybe I am typing the wrong search terms... I'm doing a veggie garden for the 2nd time this summer. Here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875 Rose found it. Yupe, that's the one I read, but I saw nothing that would prevent me from growing my own stuff. Again I can't imagine the organic industry or the alternative medicine people would allow this to happen. I don't see anything particularly wrong with trying to protect out food sources either, but on the big commercial farms not in out backyards. If anyone comes up with something post it, will ya.. by the way Winx I am not a very good gardener, I am just learning myself. All I got last year were huge zucchini which were great, but my cucumbers and tomatoes were pathetic. |
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The right to grow my own veggies in my own garden and share them with my neighbors is very important to me and to my neighbors who all grow their own veggies. And now is not the time to take that option away from people in the name of anything. I read the bill last night before going to sleep and I can't find anything that would suggest we are going to have this option taken away from us. I would like to know more about this and if it's real. Maybe I am typing the wrong search terms... i posted the actual link to see all of the bill |
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... Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply? Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?... Yes. You're correct. At first, communists tried to appear as if they have a superior system in mind, and everyone would just join in freely. But, the farmers, the very productive farmers of Russia, who knew what they are doing and how to do it right, did not wish to join. Stalin then destroyed food in storages and claimed the national disaster. There would be a famine, if those uncaring farmers do not turn their grain stock to the soviets. After a short period of turbulence, their farms were taken by force, and farmers themselves were killed. I know a family, who's grandfather was a Russian farmer of that period. His farm was taken, him and his family were put on a train and sent to Siberia for "relocation". There, his wife and two children were disrobed and thrown onto the snow from a moving train. They survived by finding berries and roots under the snow and built a cabin. Father, (the farmer) was sent to work as a horse care man into a soviet farm near that same place in Siberia. He worked only few weeks there, until one of the horses died of being held in unacceptable conditions in the winter. He was then accused of poisoning the horse to disrupt the soviet production triumph, and taken out to the camp wall to be shot by the guards. |
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... Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply? Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?... Yes. You're correct. At first, communists tried to appear as if they have a superior system in mind, and everyone would just join in freely. But, the farmers, the very productive farmers of Russia, who knew what they are doing and how to do it right, did not wish to join. Stalin then destroyed food in storages and claimed the national disaster. There would be a famine, if those uncaring farmers do not turn their grain stock to the soviets. After a short period of turbulence, their farms were taken by force, and farmers themselves were killed. I know a family, who's grandfather was a Russian farmer of that period. His farm was taken, him and his family were put on a train and sent to Siberia for "relocation". There, his wife and two children were disrobed and thrown onto the snow from a moving train. They survived by finding berries and roots under the snow and built a cabin. Father, (the farmer) was sent to work as a horse care man into a soviet farm near that same place in Siberia. He worked only few weeks there, until one of the horses died of being held in unacceptable conditions in the winter. He was then accused of poisoning the horse to disrupt the soviet production triumph, and taken out to the camp wall to be shot by the guards. It seems the older I get the less tolerance I have for such horrible stories. It really sucks how humans can treat other humans. |
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There was a story in our local news last fall. Hunters have donated deer meat to food shelves for years. Last year they found "trace" amounts of lead and declared it "unsafe". Utter insanity. People have been eating deer shot with lead since the gun was invented! They'd rather have the homeless starve? At a time when food shelves are hurting?
I think maybe this decision was influenced by this new legislation now. A case of it already being enacted? |
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It seems the older I get the less tolerance I have for such horrible stories. It really sucks how humans can treat other humans. You will, I am sorry to say, see it for real, pretty soon. Majority of the people in our country do want the promise of socialism. What I have described above is a reality of socialism, this is what they will actually get. It is horrible, and it is nothing like what is described in the promises. Promises are the traps. No one ever puts a dead bird in a bird trap. But, it work awesome if one put some food there. Today, I see the offerings every day. I know, there will be blood. |
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