Topic: Romans 13: Obey Evil Government? | |
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Is there a list of Preachers that will spread the BS??
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NORSLYMAN...
I RESPECT YOU IMMENSELY... YOUR INSIGHT IS HIGHLY SCRUTINIZING AND ADMIRED... I BUT ADD A FEW "EQUALS" UNTO THE "BRAIN WASHING POINTS" YOU RIGHTFULL LISTED??? I INSERTED THEM BELOW IN CAPS, BELOW EACH POINT, FOR YOUR EVALUATION AND CONSIDERATION. I Missed this article before: Guess we'll see just how gullible Christians can be. --------------------------------- Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Wednesday, March 4, 2009 A shocking document has come to light from a church in Ohio which educates its congregation that Barack Obama’s presidency is appointed by God and that Obama himself is “God’s minister,” in another perversion of Romans 13, the bible verse cited as an excuse for Christians not to oppose tyranny. Ohio District Superintendent Rev. John Wooton was responsible for distributing the pamphlet, which was handed out at the Assembly of God church in Ohio, according to a reader who forwarded the document to us. Click here for the PDF file. “This was handed out at the Assembly of God church that my fiance and I used to attend. We immediately stopped attending after getting this flier about ’submitting to Obama and the government,’ states the reader. “The pastor even brought children to the front of the church, encouraging them to submit to teachers, firemen, and the police. It was insane.” “I confronted the pastor about his stance on Romans 13, a year prior, and he assured me that he would never sell out his church. This sermon was given on the immediate Sunday after Obama’s election win. Please post this and inform others about it. I never, ever thought this would happen in the church I was attending, but thankfully, we were informed enough to leave this church,” he concludes. The document cites Romans 13 verses 1-4 and claims that the following “paraphrases” can be interpreted from the bible. - Barack Obama’s presidency is appointed by God. (v 1) EQUAL??? ALL HUMANS ARE APPOINTED AS BY GOD, THRU CREATION, TO EACH ONE DECIDE AS EQUAL'S, WHAT IS THE BEST LOGIC AS TRUTH??? - Christians should lead the way in supporting Barack Obama’s presidency. (v 2) EQUAL??? ALL SHOULD LEAD THE WAY BY HEARING EACH OTHER AS EQUAL??? - Barack Obama’s presidency can be a force for good and a deterrent against evil. (v 3) EQUAL??? ALL WORDS AND ACTIONS CAN BE A FORCE FOR GOOD, AND A DETERRENT AGAINST EVIL??? - As president, Barack Obama is God’s minister to you for good. (v 4) EQUAL??? ALL AND EACH ARE AS GOD'S MINISTER ONE TO ANOTHER??? SO IT IS ONLY ONE THAT SEE NOT THRU EQUALITY ITSELF, THAT SEE THRU ALL FEAR, AND SOME GREATE EVIL, AND SO BRAINWASHING, AND CANNOT THEN SEE HOW TO ADD TO ALL THINGS, ITSELF, GREATER LOGIC, WHICH MAKE WORDS NO LONGER CAPABLE OF BRAINWASHING??? The document concedes that a majority of practicing Christians probably didn’t even vote for Obama because of his pro-abortion policies, indeed one of Obama’s first acts as President was to issue an executive order which ensured that millions more black babies are aborted in third world countries, with American taxpayers picking up the tab. Obama himself has also scoffed at Christians in the past, arrogantly stating that people “cling to guns or religion” in tough times. Despite this, the document urges Christians to “support loudly” Obama’s policies and “remember who is in control”. PEACE MAN |
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I Missed this article before: Guess we'll see just how gullible Christians can be. --------------------------------- Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Wednesday, March 4, 2009 A shocking document has come to light from a church in Ohio which educates its congregation that Barack Obama’s presidency is appointed by God and that Obama himself is “God’s minister,” in another perversion of Romans 13, the bible verse cited as an excuse for Christians not to oppose tyranny. Ohio District Superintendent Rev. John Wooton was responsible for distributing the pamphlet, which was handed out at the Assembly of God church in Ohio, according to a reader who forwarded the document to us. Click here for the PDF file. “This was handed out at the Assembly of God church that my fiance and I used to attend. We immediately stopped attending after getting this flier about ’submitting to Obama and the government,’ states the reader. “The pastor even brought children to the front of the church, encouraging them to submit to teachers, firemen, and the police. It was insane.” “I confronted the pastor about his stance on Romans 13, a year prior, and he assured me that he would never sell out his church. This sermon was given on the immediate Sunday after Obama’s election win. Please post this and inform others about it. I never, ever thought this would happen in the church I was attending, but thankfully, we were informed enough to leave this church,” he concludes. The document cites Romans 13 verses 1-4 and claims that the following “paraphrases” can be interpreted from the bible. - Barack Obama’s presidency is appointed by God. (v 1) - Christians should lead the way in supporting Barack Obama’s presidency. (v 2) - Barack Obama’s presidency can be a force for good and a deterrent against evil. (v 3) - As president, Barack Obama is God’s minister to you for good. (v 4) The document concedes that a majority of practicing Christians probably didn’t even vote for Obama because of his pro-abortion policies, indeed one of Obama’s first acts as President was to issue an executive order which ensured that millions more black babies are aborted in third world countries, with American taxpayers picking up the tab. Obama himself has also scoffed at Christians in the past, arrogantly stating that people “cling to guns or religion” in tough times. Despite this, the document urges Christians to “support loudly” Obama’s policies and “remember who is in control”. What a load of paranoid ... never mind.. Ugh Obama was right about a segment of society that clings to guns and religion and we all knew that was true for pete sakes. Hell I have clung to it myself in the past. I still cling to my guns and will always, I just stopped clinging to religion years ago. Funny how the conservative right wingers can take a simple statement of fact and turn into this nonsense. If churches are doing this I wouldnt worry about it, there's strangness every where, if one wants to worship a potted plant I don't care, let them. In times of war we all have something we cling to and we know it. I just cling to hope of human 'evolution' and my gun just in case. |
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it is a load of paranoia - nothing more.
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If you think that tens of thousands of preachers haven't been put on the payroll, then you didn't learn anything from Katrina, when Clergy Response Teams were mobilized.
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If you think that tens of thousands of preachers haven't been put on the payroll, then you didn't learn anything from Katrina, when Clergy Response Teams were mobilized. Ok War, so tell me what we can do about it, specifically? I'm serious, just tell us what we should do to stop it when you can bet there are a few million that support it. |
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The first thing you can do is read, learn and disseminate the information, thats the most important thing, do your own research. A few million might support it right now, but you know what, 5 years ago a few million more than that supported it too, the curtain is coming off the guy pulling the levers in the "wizard" machine. Do some research, find like minded people, get off the government dole (solar wind, grow some food, learn how to use a gun, learn how to hunt/fish)
I assure you that those who know that something bad is going on, that have that sinking feeling in the pits of their stomachs, far outnumbers those that think Obama/Bush's farts smelled of roses. I'm less worried about that and more worried about a false flag terror event. |
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davidben1
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Wed 03/18/09 10:55 AM
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if anything is deemed paranoia, then much data as information is heard thru fear, and if one simply denounce all data, that give any fear if true, as paranoia, then the hearer become as ruled by paranoia, not the speakers of what give fear???
if one belief something is paranoia, and not totally find out the facts, to debunk the truth, itself has become as ruled by unconscious fear, with the data being first heard, and this serve no better purpose for anyone??? this thinking will but promote burying the head in the sand, whenever anything that is spoken that give fear is spoken??? so one will come to be unconsciously driven to avoid all that might even remotely sound of or create fear??? if something cause fear, it must be walked straight into, and addressed head on, or it become ruled by it, even unto self tyranny??? how can this thinking provide for true hearing of all data, and not "simply block out", with label's, making "wished" as truth, blocking out all "unwanted as true", as not true??? the belief that gun's alone can protect and preserve from percieved tyranny, will never have the power to overt greater tyranny, which only be no sight of any other way possible to ensure self interest, and simply weaken the mind to fear reflex only, and subvert true greater wisdom, that ALL THINGS HAVE SELF INTEREST AT WORK, SO TO USE SELF INTEREST AGAINST ANYTHING THAT TRY TO CONTROL UNTO OVERBEARING, BE THE ONLY LASTING SOLUTIONS, THAT END NOT IN VIOLENCE AND COMMON DESTRUCTION AND MANY PERCIEVED ENEMIES BEING CREATED TO QUICKLY. keep your friends free, and your enemies free, from the first belief there is a enemy, and there are no enemies, and mountains can be disolved into thin air. if fear can even be envoked from within, then it is but so to envoke to questions, and finding out facts, or illusions will come to be allowed to guide as reality, until true reality overtake as a thief in the night, which is indeed not the best way. warmachine... you have pitted yourself against a percieved enemy, one with much more power and rescource's than oneself, and to do such, only back oneself into a corner with few options, that always come when only seeing "self preservation of one or some, as king, and allow such to dictate best actions but thru fear"??? peace man |
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warmachine... you have pitted yourself against a percieved enemy, one with much more power and rescource's than oneself, and to do such, only back oneself into a corner with few options, that always come when only seeing "self preservation of one or some, as king, and allow such to dictate best actions but thru fear"??? peace man No, my enemy isn't a percieved one. It's the same group that put out the MAIC report that declares me, by the simple act of supporting Ron Paul a probable Domestic Terrorist. |
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If you think that tens of thousands of preachers haven't been put on the payroll, then you didn't learn anything from Katrina, when Clergy Response Teams were mobilized. Ok War, so tell me what we can do about it, specifically? I'm serious, just tell us what we should do to stop it when you can bet there are a few million that support it. What To Do by Michael Gaddy Each week, I receive a large number of emails from readers who ask me to address what they should do when the onrushing totalitarian machine known as the federal government moves to seize firearms from it’s citizens. This is my effort to address that question on at least two levels. I would never be so presumptuous as to advise anyone as to what action he or she should take when this event occurs. This is a most critical decision that requires much thought and consultation with those (family/friends) who would have to live with the aftermath of such a decision. Americans, over the past few decades, have become so accustomed to having decisions made for them by the state, it becomes second nature to ask others to make, or help make, vital decisions. We have lost a great portion of our individualist mentality and morphed into the collective mindset. I wrote in an earlier article "…it is not the gun in the hands of a freeman the tyrant fears, but the spirit of the man who possesses it." The fact a man/woman owns the means of resistance, is, in itself, a tremendous threat to the tyrant who would use his elected/appointed position to steal, that which belongs to others, or to disarm his intended victims. The mindset of resistance to tyranny is much more powerful than any firearm. A freeman, dedicated in his pursuit of liberty, will find a way to resist oppression and slavery. The history of the Warsaw Ghetto and the Sobibor death camp are prime examples. King George III feared the members of the Clergy in the colonies because of their spirit of resistance. He often referred to them as the "Black Regiment." King George did not fear their means of resistance; he feared their spirit and determination, and the followers they could reach with their message of freedom. The government has little to fear from the Clergy today, for most have become shills for the state. The state fears the message of freedom and liberty as much or more than they fear firearms in the hands of true Patriots. The message of individual and economic freedom from those such as Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Tom Woods, Walter Block, Butler Shaffer, Will Grigg, Karen De Coster, Justin Raimondo and a number of others are more feared by tyrants than you and I with our firearms. The bottom line here is: if you have now, or have ever owned a firearm other than one seen as designated for "hunting," or you have written or been outspoken about the usurpations of the state, when the tripping point is reached, the state will see you as a threat. Of course you may be able to buy yourself back into good favor by "ratting" out your fellow Patriots. A great number will succumb to this temptation, especially those who were more than willing to vote for the lesser of two evils when a man of integrity and liberty, Ron Paul, was the alternative. History teaches, equal or greater levels of paranoia by those in positions of authority always accompany the invasive moves against liberty and the rush to tyranny by the state. The quest for liberty will be seen as a grave enemy to "authority." Anyone in possession of the spirit and means to demand their rights will be dealt with accordingly. Even those who acquiesce to the threats and surrender their rights will need to be re-educated before re-entering the mainstream of what is left of society. While I cannot offer advice as to what actions anyone should take when we who love liberty are seen as the enemy of the state and actions are taken to seize any means of resistance to slavery, I can suggest the examination of history and totalitarianism for possible answers. "And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, polkers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur – what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If... if... We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure! ........... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward." ~ Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago: 1918–1956 March 19, 2009 Michael Gaddy , an Army veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut, lives in the Four Corners area of the American Southwest. http://www.lewrockwell.com/gaddy/gaddy53.html |
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