Question is are there any churches that don't do it.... oh well I will be long gone and it won't change.

boo...actually yes...but i am jaded when it comes to churches from the past. but i have a problem when someone warps the bible, constiution, whatever to suit his purpose or to hide behind it

Nope sorry, still no clue, if anyone knows what he is saying please translate in plain english.

ok....gonna try. he carefully words his posts. and tries to answer all questions and statements in the words he uses.

why would one be sorry???

have you done something to apologize for???

everything about all current world events, is to bring the world to a knowing and seeinng how ALL are equal, and made as equal, in the sight of god, IF one believe in god......

and IF one does not believe in god, then all of history show equality of all people's, has always been, what was later seen as most good, and all things in human history, that were decieved into thinking some people, were better than another people's, came to destroy themselves, by being overtaken by some other sect of people's???

equal, equal, equal, lead into new dawns, and into wisdom, if all words and actions of all human history tell or show anything, no matter how it look.

peace

I don't want to waste your time David, I am just not able to figure your posts out because of the way they are worded. I will keep trying but it's just not happening yet. If you are saying we will eventually evolve beyond our differences and become truly equal one day I'm with you. I won't see it but it's a nice thought.

indeed, you shall see it by 2012, and even all will be set in motion, by 09-09-09, or by o6 o6 o6 , as some have called it.

fyi, nothing is a waste of time to me dear brother.

peace

boo is female hun

ooh boo, i am sooooooooo sorry, never looked at your profile ya know.

how would one know, from equal sight, as your words seem just as equal to me as all other's...

thanks YR.

Sorry for what? Unless there is something wrong with being a man, I see no insult.

I don't really understand what the 2012 is all about. Is this biblical prophesy you refer to?

I can relate to that. I have over the years become very uptight with the whole religious community frankly. I think it's become a power trip and it's becoming very ugly... jmho

Isn't the Religion Forum enough?

I believe its two doors down!

Well in as much as we might be visited by preachers we might need more than one.. grin!

We might have strayed from the original topic a bit, but then it's friday night and I didn't see lots of activity to this topic.

i appologized because i called you brother, lol...

i don't consider any one set of words better than another???

what is religious, except eye's that break all things into some religious context, calling it a religion???

all words are equal to me, and none are greater than any other, so this be the context in which i speak from.

if one study all words spoken, by millions of people's, from all ancient civilizations, as at least equal to self insight, how cannot it be seen, exactely what is to happen, as does not all history show itself constantly repeat???

yes, history, all astonomy, all music, all movies, all current world events, all past world events, easily tell of what point in the worlds history this generation is at.

if one break all words into some belief, then the eye's see only thru two, or some, instead of seeing thru all eye's that have spoken???

is it not more prudent, and wise, to use ALL EYE'S OF ALL PEOPLE, TO SEE THRU, INSTEAD OF JUST TWO, OR SOME???

pieces

pieces

pieces

and all be tied together, and there is peace.

indeed fanta, you are right, this should not have been placed here.

didn't notice until you mentioned it, as the title of the thread speak the biblical notation and belief.

peace

You can't get to prisonplanet.com?

Thats no good.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/

If that doesn't work, try infowars.com

It's come up that certain Internet providers don't seem to have a problem blocking websites, so if you continue to have problems, you might want to check into that.

Prisonplanet and Infowars are both extremely useful tools for gathering and deciphering information, IMHO.

inforwars.com yes
prisonplanet.com NO tried again this morning. nothing

yep

I Missed this article before:
Guess we'll see just how gullible Christians can be.
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, March 4, 2009

A shocking document has come to light from a church in Ohio which educates its congregation that Barack Obama’s presidency is appointed by God and that Obama himself is “God’s minister,” in another perversion of Romans 13, the bible verse cited as an excuse for Christians not to oppose tyranny.

Ohio District Superintendent Rev. John Wooton was responsible for distributing the pamphlet, which was handed out at the Assembly of God church in Ohio, according to a reader who forwarded the document to us. Click here for the PDF file.

“This was handed out at the Assembly of God church that my fiance and I used to attend. We immediately stopped attending after getting this flier about ’submitting to Obama and the government,’ states the reader.

“The pastor even brought children to the front of the church, encouraging them to submit to teachers, firemen, and the police. It was insane.”

“I confronted the pastor about his stance on Romans 13, a year prior, and he assured me that he would never sell out his church. This sermon was given on the immediate Sunday after Obama’s election win. Please post this and inform others about it. I never, ever thought this would happen in the church I was attending, but thankfully, we were informed enough to leave this church,” he concludes.

The document cites Romans 13 verses 1-4 and claims that the following “paraphrases” can be interpreted from the bible.

- Barack Obama’s presidency is appointed by God. (v 1)

- Christians should lead the way in supporting Barack Obama’s presidency. (v 2)

- Barack Obama’s presidency can be a force for good and a deterrent against evil. (v 3)

- As president, Barack Obama is God’s minister to you for good. (v 4)

The document concedes that a majority of practicing Christians probably didn’t even vote for Obama because of his pro-abortion policies, indeed one of Obama’s first acts as President was to issue an executive order which ensured that millions more black babies are aborted in third world countries, with American taxpayers picking up the tab.

Obama himself has also scoffed at Christians in the past, arrogantly stating that people “cling to guns or religion” in tough times.

Despite this, the document urges Christians to “support loudly” Obama’s policies and “remember who is in control”.