Topic: HELP! Concrete Work
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Wed 04/15/09 02:10 PM
Edited by revolution on Wed 04/15/09 02:38 PM
Im having someone build me a concrete patio in my back yard..I got a couple of estimate and the one I think Im going to go with wants to charge me 1,800 for a 16 X 16 foot patio...my first question is...do you guys think thats a good price? my second question is do you think a 16x 16 foot patio is big enough for a table of 4 and a grill? thanks in advanceflowerforyou

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Wed 04/15/09 02:22 PM
Do you mean 16 feet by 16 feet? Cause you put 16 x 16 inches flowerforyou

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Wed 04/15/09 02:28 PM
Edited by Neurofriction on Wed 04/15/09 02:50 PM
$7.00 a square foot. Not sure on prices out your way. I haven't priced any in about three years but I don't think that's NOT off bad. But you could do it a lot cheaper if ya had some friends. One good concrete man could do that all himself easily.

Make big enough it's cheaper all at one time. But it should do ya.

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Wed 04/15/09 02:30 PM

Do you mean 16 feet by 16 feet? Cause you put 16 x 16 inches flowerforyou
yes thanks for the head up lol :smile:

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Wed 04/15/09 02:33 PM
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Good, cause that size would definitely NOT be big enough for tables and a grill bigsmile

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Wed 04/15/09 02:39 PM

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Good, cause that size would definitely NOT be big enough for tables and a grill bigsmile
blushing rofl rofl rofl your sure right about that...it made for a good afternoon laugh to say the leastbigsmile

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Wed 04/15/09 02:42 PM
How deep is the patio because to do a good estimate you need to know the volume of concrete that you are being qouted. its not a bad price but a little online research and you can find out what kinda of profit you are allowing him to make off you.

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Wed 04/15/09 02:45 PM

Do you mean 16 feet by 16 feet? Cause you put 16 x 16 inches flowerforyou


No she didn't it says foot.

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Wed 04/15/09 03:01 PM


Do you mean 16 feet by 16 feet? Cause you put 16 x 16 inches flowerforyou


No she didn't it says foot.
I edit it dear, thanks for having my back tho lol...peace and love.

Revo

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Wed 04/15/09 03:28 PM
Do you already have the table & chairs, grill etc?

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Wed 04/15/09 03:28 PM

How deep is the patio because to do a good estimate you need to know the volume of concrete that you are being qouted. its not a bad price but a little online research and you can find out what kinda of profit you are allowing him to make off you.
Im thinking standard..isnt it something like 4 feet...not quite sure I'll have to ask him

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Wed 04/15/09 11:02 PM
is there any one else that can help me out with some advice here lol

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Thu 04/16/09 07:24 AM
Standard concrete patio slab, would be 4 inches thick.
How much site preparation is necc.?
Is it on shifting soil & thus needs a type of footing or some post hole supports, to help prevent shifting, cracking & thus a shorter life for the concrete.

Personally I think you should get 5-6 bids. Talk to all biders & ask what they would do at their house; what will last the longest with the least amount of cost. I would also bet you know someone, that knows someone in construction, get their opinion of the bids & the project.

I did a 16 x 20 concrete slab, last year. Put 12, 3 ft. deep post holes filled with concrete, at time of pouring, to support it; as it is on shifting soil. We used "fiber concrete" due to it's added strength & didn't want to use reinforcement wire mesh. Be sure to have the installer, "strike" the slab into 4 sections, so that if it does crack, it should crack in the strikes.

"striking" is the lines made into the concrete, while it is wet.

Edit: To tell if the size is big enough, take 4 coat hangers or markers of some type; mark the cornors & put what you want on the slab, inside the marks. arrange how you will & see if YOU are happy.
Will cost much less to bigger NOW; rather than later.
If you have a good installer, this is a standard action.

Hope all this helps, please feel free to contact me direct if you feel I might help further.

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Thu 04/16/09 08:13 PM

Standard concrete patio slab, would be 4 inches thick.
How much site preparation is necc.?
Is it on shifting soil & thus needs a type of footing or some post hole supports, to help prevent shifting, cracking & thus a shorter life for the concrete.

Personally I think you should get 5-6 bids. Talk to all biders & ask what they would do at their house; what will last the longest with the least amount of cost. I would also bet you know someone, that knows someone in construction, get their opinion of the bids & the project.

I did a 16 x 20 concrete slab, last year. Put 12, 3 ft. deep post holes filled with concrete, at time of pouring, to support it; as it is on shifting soil. We used "fiber concrete" due to it's added strength & didn't want to use reinforcement wire mesh. Be sure to have the installer, "strike" the slab into 4 sections, so that if it does crack, it should crack in the strikes.

"striking" is the lines made into the concrete, while it is wet.

Edit: To tell if the size is big enough, take 4 coat hangers or markers of some type; mark the cornors & put what you want on the slab, inside the marks. arrange how you will & see if YOU are happy.
Will cost much less to bigger NOW; rather than later.
If you have a good installer, this is a standard action.

Hope all this helps, please feel free to contact me direct if you feel I might help further.
thanksflowerforyou I'll definitely send you a email...I have a few more questions...I feel I work hard and I dont want to get rip off, so Im trying to get as much info as I can before I hirer someone.....

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Thu 04/16/09 08:40 PM

look up concrete patios on a few DIY do it yourself sites,just for the info....but you can call up a concrete company and ask them how many yards (approx) you will need talk to them about the different types and prices ..and that way you will have an idea as to what you are being charged for labor..knowledge is power...smokin

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Fri 04/17/09 06:12 AM
about it being big enough

how big is your kitchen does a table and stove fit in yer kitchen

the grill would replace the stove

you could stake it out and set everything inside the staked area and see first hand if it is the size you want

as far as price ??? get multiple estimates and that could tell you something

and if you are somewhat brave about it you could run an ad on craigs list for someone that may be layed off to do it for you (just remember to get proof of concrete work experience)

call the concrete company and find out how much concrete for the size patio you want costs (that will tell you approximatly what is being charged for labor)

good luck

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Fri 04/17/09 09:27 AM
thanks so much for all the advice guys...I will let yall know how it turns out.....I love the idea about craigs list....never thought of that....be blessed!

revo