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 Very interesting stuff But all of those are natural phenomenaExplainable according to science
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Very interesting stuff But all of those are natural phenomenaExplainable according to science I was not trying to say the events were biblical in nature, just biblical in proportion. As for being "natural". The slowing of the gulfstream is due to arctic ice melting which is due to global warming. If you blame the global warming on man, it would not be considered "natural". The rise in ocean temperature is also caused by global warming. A massive release of methane would not be considered "natural" for the same reason. The supervolcano is purely natural. When it blows, the whole world is affected from the ash cloud produced. Very interesting stuff. |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Thu 04/30/09 09:20 PM
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There actually are some serious events that are brewing. They may not happen but they have a lot of people worried. The super volcano under Yellowstone is acting up. It blows every seventy thousand years or so (I think). The park has recently shifted several feet. The thermal engine that powers the Gulfstream which distributes heat across the planet is powering down due to insufficient arctic ice melt. The temperature of the oceans is rising; possibly enough to release the vast stores of methane hydrate. The methane release would increase global warming by a very very very large factor due to the fact that methane is a far more efficient greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. PBS has done some good programs on NOVA on these topics. "It blows every seventy thousand years or so" "powering down due to insufficient arctic ice melt." "due to the fact that methane is a far more efficient greenhouse gas"  All explainable natural phenomenaNothing supernatural about any of that is what I mean  I appreciate you giving me an answer in a rational fashion metalwing. I would come closer to believing someone rational like you than someone that uses "magic-thinking". |
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Very interesting stuff But all of those are natural phenomenaExplainable according to science I was not trying to say the events were biblical in nature, just biblical in proportion. As for being "natural". The slowing of the gulfstream is due to arctic ice melting which is due to global warming. If you blame the global warming on man, it would not be considered "natural". The rise in ocean temperature is also caused by global warming. A massive release of methane would not be considered "natural" for the same reason. The supervolcano is purely natural. When it blows, the whole world is affected from the ash cloud produced. Very interesting stuff. Yes,very cool informationYou have given the best answer so far
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There are many more books in the Bible that describe the end times.
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There are many more books in the Bible that describe the end times.  I have been aware of that for many yearsBut thanks for pointing that out
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Edited by
Monier
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Sat 05/02/09 09:30 AM
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I picture the end times as a big bomb with a really long fuse. The fuse burns and burns and we all sit and watch it. We discuss it. We study it.
"Check the fuse. Is it still burning?" "Yes it is" "When do you think it will burn out?" "I don't know, but I'm quite sure that it will" "We need to let people know the fuse is burning" "Yes, we need more people to watch it" What is the point to discussing end times if nothing is done to prevent it? What about something useful like what to do if/when this occurs, or perhaps that is the way we should already be living. This is part of an ongoing theme in the bible. It is teaching that no matter what happens to us, if we stay true to who we are AND what we believe, things will work out in the end. We are beings based on two things; who we are and what we believe. Which is stronger, what we are capable of or the emotions that tie us down and prevent us from taking action? We were created in his image. We will not fail. I do not fear the end times because we are his legacy. |
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We cannot just keep on going on doing whatever we want to do, and not taking responsibility for our actions, and expecting "Superman" to come flying down out of the sky and "save the world". The human race needs to grow up and take responsibility for our choices."God" helps those that help themselves.We have the capacity to forgive and be forgiven. Each and every one of us. Jesus said so. Jesus showed us the way to make this world a better place. |
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In my opinion, many of the plagues of the endtimes as described in the book of Revelation sound like ecological collapse; the death of the oceans and trees, the loss of clean drinking water and the pandemic spread of disease. I cannot say that we are in the last days because I simply do not know, but if thinking that this is the last generation is what it takes to get you to take this time seriously and investigate your world with a new attitude, then I am all ears as to your findings.
Likewise I cant say that all of the scriptures were fulfilled in the time of Christ because this is an argument that does not stand up to the scripture that it is supposed to be in fulfillment of. The fact is that many dangerous groups have taught this viewpoint in error, and that many other equally dangerous groups have taught that the end is near, antichrist, rapture, and other teachings that are designed more to scare you then to educate you. This is a very important topic that we all need to be talking about, so let the discussion continue. I personally believe that mankind has a date with destiny, and that things cannot continue as they have for ages because of the number of people consuming the limited amount of resources the earth has to offer. I believe there is a breaking point and that we are heading to it as fast as capitalism and consumption can carry us there. Also there is the issue of social justice; our american way of life is largely responsible for the impoverishment of the third world, and the bankruptcy of our ideals is the major source of destabilization in the international community. |
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We cannot just keep on going on doing whatever we want to do, and not taking responsibility for our actions, and expecting "Superman" to come flying down out of the sky and "save the world". The human race needs to grow up and take responsibility for our choices."God" helps those that help themselves.We have the capacity to forgive and be forgiven. Each and every one of us. Jesus said so. Jesus showed us the way to make this world a better place. The bible says NO ONE knows the day or hour but to be prepared and ready as a thief does not announce he is breaking in to rob you. Being ready means living for God and not stomping on his grace because in Mathew it talks about how because God is just and fair he will say to those who claimed to be christians but whos hearts were evil.,. Go away from me I NEVER knew you! Yes things are bad now as they were way back when but as you see what happened in Noahs day God has a breaking point! He gets angry as He did then but found Noah to be faithfully serving him! He also got mad at all the evil in Sodom and Gomorah and distroyed the city. He is alowing more and more people to be saved and hundreds and hundreds are repenting every day! While on earth we should be reflecting his grace and mercy and that is easy to do if we are looking at him! I am glad you do believe in God and I am sure he will continue to work through you and this sight to lead others to himself! Be Blessed... ltl
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We cannot just keep on going on doing whatever we want to do, and not taking responsibility for our actions, and expecting "Superman" to come flying down out of the sky and "save the world". The human race needs to grow up and take responsibility for our choices."God" helps those that help themselves.We have the capacity to forgive and be forgiven. Each and every one of us. Jesus said so. Jesus showed us the way to make this world a better place. The bible says NO ONE knows the day or hour but to be prepared and ready as a thief does not announce he is breaking in to rob you. Being ready means living for God and not stomping on his grace because in Mathew it talks about how because God is just and fair he will say to those who claimed to be christians but whos hearts were evil.,. Go away from me I NEVER knew you! Yes things are bad now as they were way back when but as you see what happened in Noahs day God has a breaking point! He gets angry as He did then but found Noah to be faithfully serving him! He also got mad at all the evil in Sodom and Gomorah and distroyed the city. He is alowing more and more people to be saved and hundreds and hundreds are repenting every day! While on earth we should be reflecting his grace and mercy and that is easy to do if we are looking at him! I am glad you do believe in God and I am sure he will continue to work through you and this sight to lead others to himself! Be Blessed... ltl  He "allows"?  I don't blame God for anything.
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We cannot just keep on going on doing whatever we want to do, and not taking responsibility for our actions, and expecting "Superman" to come flying down out of the sky and "save the world". The human race needs to grow up and take responsibility for our choices."God" helps those that help themselves.We have the capacity to forgive and be forgiven. Each and every one of us. Jesus said so. Jesus showed us the way to make this world a better place. The bible says NO ONE knows the day or hour but to be prepared and ready as a thief does not announce he is breaking in to rob you. Being ready means living for God and not stomping on his grace because in Mathew it talks about how because God is just and fair he will say to those who claimed to be christians but whos hearts were evil.,. Go away from me I NEVER knew you! Yes things are bad now as they were way back when but as you see what happened in Noahs day God has a breaking point! He gets angry as He did then but found Noah to be faithfully serving him! He also got mad at all the evil in Sodom and Gomorah and distroyed the city. He is alowing more and more people to be saved and hundreds and hundreds are repenting every day! While on earth we should be reflecting his grace and mercy and that is easy to do if we are looking at him! I am glad you do believe in God and I am sure he will continue to work through you and this sight to lead others to himself! Be Blessed... ltl Thank you
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We cannot just keep on going on doing whatever we want to do, and not taking responsibility for our actions, and expecting "Superman" to come flying down out of the sky and "save the world". The human race needs to grow up and take responsibility for our choices."God" helps those that help themselves.We have the capacity to forgive and be forgiven. Each and every one of us. Jesus said so. Jesus showed us the way to make this world a better place. The bible says NO ONE knows the day or hour but to be prepared and ready as a thief does not announce he is breaking in to rob you. Being ready means living for God and not stomping on his grace because in Mathew it talks about how because God is just and fair he will say to those who claimed to be christians but whos hearts were evil.,. Go away from me I NEVER knew you! Yes things are bad now as they were way back when but as you see what happened in Noahs day God has a breaking point! He gets angry as He did then but found Noah to be faithfully serving him! He also got mad at all the evil in Sodom and Gomorah and distroyed the city. He is alowing more and more people to be saved and hundreds and hundreds are repenting every day! While on earth we should be reflecting his grace and mercy and that is easy to do if we are looking at him! I am glad you do believe in God and I am sure he will continue to work through you and this sight to lead others to himself! Be Blessed... ltl He "allows"? I don't blame God for anything. I ment he allows more time even with all its evil happenings so more and more people will come to him and repent... |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Mon 05/04/09 09:28 AM
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We cannot just keep on going on doing whatever we want to do, and not taking responsibility for our actions, and expecting "Superman" to come flying down out of the sky and "save the world". The human race needs to grow up and take responsibility for our choices."God" helps those that help themselves.We have the capacity to forgive and be forgiven. Each and every one of us. Jesus said so. Jesus showed us the way to make this world a better place. The bible says NO ONE knows the day or hour but to be prepared and ready as a thief does not announce he is breaking in to rob you. Being ready means living for God and not stomping on his grace because in Mathew it talks about how because God is just and fair he will say to those who claimed to be christians but whos hearts were evil.,. Go away from me I NEVER knew you! Yes things are bad now as they were way back when but as you see what happened in Noahs day God has a breaking point! He gets angry as He did then but found Noah to be faithfully serving him! He also got mad at all the evil in Sodom and Gomorah and distroyed the city. He is alowing more and more people to be saved and hundreds and hundreds are repenting every day! While on earth we should be reflecting his grace and mercy and that is easy to do if we are looking at him! I am glad you do believe in God and I am sure he will continue to work through you and this sight to lead others to himself! Be Blessed... ltl He "allows"? I don't blame God for anything. I ment he allows more time even with all its evil happenings so more and more people will come to him and repent... We are on borrowed time?
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For myself, I dont concern myself so much as to whether this is the end times, but much more, am I ready to meet my Maker if it was right now? My end could happen today, altho I pray and ask God to protect me and keep me safe, we just dont know when it will happen. We can all be assured of one thing, that is someday will be our last and then we enter eternity, ready or not.
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The End Times Prophecy scam. This is how it works. 1. Turn to Ezekiel 38 & 39. Don't read the first 37 chapters of Ezekiel, they don't matter. And don't read Ezekiel chapters 40 to 48 -- they don't matter either. You're supposed to start reading Ezekiel at Chapter 38. That's obviously why it's Chapter 38. 2. Turn from Ezekiel 39 to 1 Thessalonians 4:16, being very careful not to read verses 13 and 14 of this chapter. (Those verses introduce the section that follows as being about death, hope and grieving and you're going to have to try, instead, to read this section as though it is about the disappearance of all of the earth's children, which it doesn't actually mention.) Anyway, read on through the 11th verse of the following chapter and then jump to the obvious next passage in the plainest, most literal and logical reading of the Bible ... 3. Revelation Chapter 11. Don't read the first 10 chapters of Revelation -- not yet. First finish Chapter 11, then turn to ... 4. Revelation 6:1-2. Don't read the third verse yet, because first you need to turn to ... 5. The ninth chapter of Daniel. Skip the first 19 verses and start with Daniel 9:20. Why do you have to flip back and forth thru the bible and read scriptures out of order to get the "full story"? I know why. Because its a centuries old scam.
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Just joined this site and read every word.
The end is coming. No one but God knows when that will be. The church will never have to live through the "anti-Christ" days because they will already be in God's protection. The true sign that the end is drawing very very close is when Israel is turned against. God said he would return to his land. |
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Just joined this site and read every word. The end is coming. No one but God knows when that will be. The church will never have to live through the "anti-Christ" days because they will already be in God's protection. The true sign that the end is drawing very very close is when Israel is turned against. God said he would return to his land. "The true sign that the end is drawing very very close is when Israel is turned against" What's new about that? Israel has always been "turned against".
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revelations is the only book in the Bible that describes the end of time... It is REVELATION, not REVELATIONS! It is a book, a vision for the 1st century church. It is NOT about black helicopters, or the Russians, or anything about the 21st century. It is an admonition to the 1st century church to be faithful, even in the face of Roman persecution. It is an admonition to the church, in the 1st century, to be morally pure and doctrinally sound. That is IT. Of course, it has a message for us today too. But this 'Hal Lindsey' stuff is all hoo=hah. Sorry. That's how I feel. |
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revelations is the only book in the Bible that describes the end of time... Daniel 12 1And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. 4But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. 5Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. 6And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? 7And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. 8And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. 11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
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