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Topic: Conspiracy Theorists Were Right All Along!
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Sun 04/19/09 08:31 AM
Conspiracy Theorists Were Right All Along!

Gary D. Barnett
Lew Rockwell.com
Sunday, April 19, 2009

As I opened up an e-copy of the Washington Times today, the headline read: “Federal agency warns of radicals on right.” Many have talked about this and Karen DeCoster in today’s LRC blog here mentioned this report. Fox News, Drudge and many other “conservative” commentators are up in arms claiming that this is a direct attack against conservatives. I beg to differ. It is an attack against Americans!

The Department of Homeland Security is warning “law enforcement officials” (jackbooted criminal types) about a rise in “rightwing extremist activity,” but a footnote in this report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines rightwing extremism as “including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that (don’t miss this part) reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.” If I’m interpreting this correctly, this report is going after anyone who dares to question federal authority. This would put libertarians directly in the government’s crosshairs. In fact, I have been against federal authority my entire life, so am I a prime target? In addition, this report was sent to police and sheriff’s departments all over the country. This is after thousands of combat troops have taken up permanent residence as domestic police, with thousands more on the way. This sounds like nothing more than a recipe for tyranny.

The government’s destruction of liberty has been with us for generations, but due to the incremental nature of this assault on freedom in the past most paid little attention. But now our liberty is being pushed aside like a bulldozer mowing over anthills. Is anyone other than LRC readers and small (l) libertarians watching?

In the past I have talked about illegal wiretapping, illegal spying, government/private spying partnerships (Infragard), thought crime legislation, financial transaction monitoring, anti-money laundering legislation, immoral taxation policies and privacy invasions among many other government indiscretions, and many thought that I was too negative or too cynical. I even wrote an article about pending legislation that would allow government to round us all up and put us in federal camps. Now, after just recently seeing the leaked Missouri MIAC Strategic Report, The Department of Homeland Security is informing police to be on the lookout for any who would not be in favor of federal authority. Orwell as prognosticator has been well vindicated; more so than even he probably could have imagined.

I write this today after just learning this morning that in Billings, Montana (population 100,000) the Yellowstone County Sheriff’s Department rolled out its new 13-foot tall, 35,000-pound Ballistic Engineered Armored Response vehicle (BEAR) purchased with, you guessed it, a Homeland Security grant. It is to be used by not only the sheriff’s department but also by the Billings Police Department. They got this war machine just in time to tame those who are not in favor of federal authority. It is bullet-proof, has 2-inch shatterproof glass and gun ports on both sides. This idiocy is going on all over the country, and why more aren’t fearful of the danger of this military arming of local police I don’t know. In order for the normal citizenry to defend themselves from this onslaught of military weaponry, rifles and shotguns will need to be traded in for bazookas and hand-held rocket launchers. Unfortunately, these are still illegal.

All the federal government’s offensive and defensive mechanisms are being put in place while the lowly sheep await the slaughter. More economic tensions with more unemployment along with over-zealous police thugs bent on revenue creation; what will be the straw that breaks the proverbial camel’s back? What will it take before civil unrest is not just discussed on talk shows, but is evident in the streets of America? How much unrest will be tolerated by the now fully armed military-type police before they become physical?

If you want to continue to hide your head in the sand, don’t dare connect these dots! We now have militarized police, combat soldiers on our streets, war-zone materials and weaponry in the hands of domestic government agents, FEMA camps, and a neutered rule of law. These atrocious changes have happened quickly, and at a time of civil restlessness. Is this a coincidence? I think not. Everything happens for a reason, and this time that reason is easy to spot. Are you looking? If not, you had better open your eyes soon!


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 04/19/09 08:54 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 04/19/09 08:56 AM
"Chicken Little, The Boy That Cried Wolf".... "Conspiracy Theorist".

Isn't that what they say? Yet still, in the end of both these "fairy tales or fables", the threat became real!

Bush said to the nation... "Let us not tolerate outragious conspiracy theories...." OH.... he means like "It's safe to return to your offices." as was told to the WTC workers? Or still yet... "The air is safe to breathe. Simply use soap and water to clean." while more first responders and residents of the area die every day.

Perhaps it's how a plane crashes without leaving any debris or bodies? Maybe it's how 19 "Arab" hijackers (many found to still be alive and well) justify an attack on Iraq or the invasion of Afganistan?

I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but if these examples, these "still unaddressed" facts are thruths, who is selling a conspiracy theory here?

Good post War! drinker


warmachine's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:08 AM

"Chicken Little, The Boy That Cried Wolf".... "Conspiracy Theorist".

Isn't that what they say? Yet still, in the end of both these "fairy tales or fables", the threat became real!

Bush said to the nation... "Let us not tolerate outragious conspiracy theories...." OH.... he means like "It's safe to return to your offices." as was told to the WTC workers? Or still yet... "The air is safe to breathe. Simply use soap and water to clean." while more first responders and residents of the area die every day.

Perhaps it's how a plane crashes without leaving any debris or bodies? Maybe it's how 19 "Arab" hijackers (many found to still be alive and well) justify an attack on Iraq or the invasion of Afganistan?

I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but if these examples, these "still unaddressed" facts are thruths, who is selling a conspiracy theory here?

Good post War! drinker




That's a pretty fine response, in your own right.
My favorite is: 2 planes hit 2 buildings and yet somehow 3 fell down. Another is: The fire was so hot it caused the structural steel to fail, but yet, you can see a person standing in the hole left by the plane searching for help, in multiple videos... so steel is more susceptable to scorching fire than human flesh.


9/11- the official fable has more holes in it than a Sponge Bob marathon.

willing2's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:23 AM
Edited by willing2 on Sun 04/19/09 09:25 AM
Flagstaff,Az
2007 Accomplishments
Tacticle Operations Team
2007 SWAT Team Portrait
Accomplishments:

* Purchased a LENCO B.E.A.R. (Ballistic Engineered Armored Response - vehicle) using Homeland Security funds

warmachine's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:24 AM
I got me a big X where I think a picture should be.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:32 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 04/19/09 09:42 AM

Conspiracy Theorists Were Right All Along!

Gary D. Barnett
Lew Rockwell.com
Sunday, April 19, 2009

As I opened up an e-copy of the Washington Times today, the headline read: “Federal agency warns of radicals on right.” Many have talked about this and Karen DeCoster in today’s LRC blog here mentioned this report. Fox News, Drudge and many other “conservative” commentators are up in arms claiming that this is a direct attack against conservatives. I beg to differ. It is an attack against Americans!

The Department of Homeland Security is warning “law enforcement officials” (jackbooted criminal types) about a rise in “rightwing extremist activity,” but a footnote in this report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines rightwing extremism as “including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that (don’t miss this part) reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.” If I’m interpreting this correctly, this report is going after anyone who dares to question federal authority. This would put libertarians directly in the government’s crosshairs. In fact, I have been against federal authority my entire life, so am I a prime target? In addition, this report was sent to police and sheriff’s departments all over the country. This is after thousands of combat troops have taken up permanent residence as domestic police, with thousands more on the way. This sounds like nothing more than a recipe for tyranny.

The government’s destruction of liberty has been with us for generations, but due to the incremental nature of this assault on freedom in the past most paid little attention. But now our liberty is being pushed aside like a bulldozer mowing over anthills. Is anyone other than LRC readers and small (l) libertarians watching?

In the past I have talked about illegal wiretapping, illegal spying, government/private spying partnerships (Infragard), thought crime legislation, financial transaction monitoring, anti-money laundering legislation, immoral taxation policies and privacy invasions among many other government indiscretions, and many thought that I was too negative or too cynical. I even wrote an article about pending legislation that would allow government to round us all up and put us in federal camps. Now, after just recently seeing the leaked Missouri MIAC Strategic Report, The Department of Homeland Security is informing police to be on the lookout for any who would not be in favor of federal authority. Orwell as prognosticator has been well vindicated; more so than even he probably could have imagined.

I write this today after just learning this morning that in Billings, Montana (population 100,000) the Yellowstone County Sheriff’s Department rolled out its new 13-foot tall, 35,000-pound Ballistic Engineered Armored Response vehicle (BEAR) purchased with, you guessed it, a Homeland Security grant. It is to be used by not only the sheriff’s department but also by the Billings Police Department. They got this war machine just in time to tame those who are not in favor of federal authority. It is bullet-proof, has 2-inch shatterproof glass and gun ports on both sides. This idiocy is going on all over the country, and why more aren’t fearful of the danger of this military arming of local police I don’t know. In order for the normal citizenry to defend themselves from this onslaught of military weaponry, rifles and shotguns will need to be traded in for bazookas and hand-held rocket launchers. Unfortunately, these are still illegal.

All the federal government’s offensive and defensive mechanisms are being put in place while the lowly sheep await the slaughter. More economic tensions with more unemployment along with over-zealous police thugs bent on revenue creation; what will be the straw that breaks the proverbial camel’s back? What will it take before civil unrest is not just discussed on talk shows, but is evident in the streets of America? How much unrest will be tolerated by the now fully armed military-type police before they become physical?

If you want to continue to hide your head in the sand, don’t dare connect these dots! We now have militarized police, combat soldiers on our streets, war-zone materials and weaponry in the hands of domestic government agents, FEMA camps, and a neutered rule of law. These atrocious changes have happened quickly, and at a time of civil restlessness. Is this a coincidence? I think not. Everything happens for a reason, and this time that reason is easy to spot. Are you looking? If not, you had better open your eyes soon!






Just a little investigation reveals several law enforcement agencies have one of these.
In 2 min of looking I found that LENCO, the company who makes the vehicle has sold them to police and law enforcement agency from NY to LA for years.
Any law enforcement agency can buy one and most all have!

http://www.swattrucks.com/about.htm


Id hate to disappoint you so here goes,

There is no wolf.
Only paranoia!

willing2's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:34 AM
Edited by willing2 on Sun 04/19/09 09:36 AM
I'm looking around and I see many major cities have one.

Kalispell police loaded for BEAR
By JIM MANN/Daily Inter Lake
Published: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:15 AM CST
‘Intimidation factor’ looms large in new armored vehicle

Heads turn as the hulking charcoal-gray vehicle rolls down Kalispell’s Main Street, with a seeming ability to rumble over compact cars.

This is more than a monster truck — the Ballistic Engineered Armored Response vehicle is now part of the Kalispell Police Department fleet, courtesy of a $300,000 donation from part-time Flathead County resident Don Abbey.

Slowly been placing them in.

prisoner's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:42 AM
:smile: am i the only one who believes a jealous husband killed JFK? be seeing you

Fanta46's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:43 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 04/19/09 09:45 AM
Its a friggen SWAT Vehicle!

What, are you going to send police out to a hostage situation in a VW mini van?laugh laugh laugh laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:51 AM

Its a friggen SWAT Vehicle!

What, are you going to send police out to a hostage situation in a VW mini van?laugh laugh laugh laugh


Dispite what you may believe Fanta, I feel our brave police officers need all the help, support and protection they can get. My hope is, that when it comes their turn to support, for the cause of liberty, they are not turned against us. To not concider this a matter of concern, is like not seeing the forest because of the trees.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 04/19/09 09:59 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 04/19/09 09:59 AM
http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_206747_Dogamer_.htm

FEMA training video

nogames39's photo
Sun 04/19/09 10:06 AM

Its a friggen SWAT Vehicle!

What, are you going to send police out to a hostage situation in a VW mini van?laugh laugh laugh laugh


There is absolutely no need for the well trained and armed bunch of young men to be so afraid of untrained and unarmed criminals as to require a protective vehicle where they could hide.

They are the law. They should not hide.

They should not hide their faces either.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/19/09 10:15 AM
good post war. interestingdrinker

nogames39's photo
Sun 04/19/09 10:19 AM
That is not your picture, Rose, is it?

no photo
Sun 04/19/09 12:19 PM
If I’m interpreting this correctly, this report is going after anyone who dares to question federal authority...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sticks out like a sore thumb. Please prove that this is the case. I get so weary of reading things that the authors themselves are not sure is happening but write as if it were.

Please prove it!

I read the articles you copy to Mingle, WarMachine, but I hope you would expect that I would also question them as well.

nogames39's photo
Sun 04/19/09 01:10 PM
Edited by nogames39 on Sun 04/19/09 01:11 PM
A country that inspires to be socialist, can not afford any political dissent.

This is a rule, and the freedom (to think, communicate and act independently) was, is, and always will be in the way of socialism.

You wouldn't believe these sort of explanations of current events, because you're looking at them from an inside of the process. Once you take a look at the big picture, from an outside of the process, you will see the steps that will be necessarily taken, with whatever the convenient justification that happens to be chosen.

no photo
Sun 04/19/09 01:29 PM

A country that inspires to be socialist, can not afford any political dissent.

This is a rule, and the freedom (to think, communicate and act independently) was, is, and always will be in the way of socialism.

You wouldn't believe these sort of explanations of current events, because you're looking at them from an inside of the process. Once you take a look at the big picture, from an outside of the process, you will see the steps that will be necessarily taken, with whatever the convenient justification that happens to be chosen.


Personally I despise politics, so I am not looking from with in anything, I am looking at everything you guys are posting, each having your own focus. None of you have proved anything absolute that I can see actually happening. Sure it might look that way but that doesn't mean it's actually happening. I can't just take your word for it or I would be guilty of what some accuse others of, accepting it because so and so said it.


yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/19/09 01:53 PM
question to anyone that wants to answer....why would it be a bad thing to keep an eye out for these things???? isn't it better to be safe than sorry? even if you don't buy into it....keep an eye out. sort of like being aware of your surroundings

creativesoul's photo
Sun 04/19/09 01:59 PM
The interjection of 9/11 is unfounded and irrelevent.

This is a new 'era of freedom'. A new understanding of what it takes to remain as free as possible. The civil rights infringements are just a necessary temporary distraction, one that easily changes the focus of the collective conscience. It is a matter of principle... these truthes are held to be self-evident.

The focus should be upon the blanket-theft by the government from the citizens, for the purpose of a politio-financial cover up of corruption on a whole... the Bill of Rights just being one of those things stolen.

The investors... the politicians... the bankers...

The invisible menage a toire should be THE focus.

If we have no voice, we cannot be heard.

It is the means to an end. The end of knowledge. The beginning of 'pulling out' and cleaning up the evidence.


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 04/19/09 02:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

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