For those who doubt the need for a cyber-security task force!



Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:37PM EDT

BEIJING (AFP) - China insisted on Thursday it was opposed to Internet crimes, following a US media report that said Chinese hackers may have been behind a cyber attack on computers linked to a new US fighter jet.

"Some people keep making up stories, I don't know what their intentions are," foreign ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said.

"We resolutely oppose and crackdown on cyber crimes, including hacking."

Jiang was commenting on a Wall Street Journal report that computer spies hacked into the Pentagon's 300-billion-dollar Joint Strike Fighter project.

The newspaper cited unnamed former US officials as saying the attack appeared to have originated in China, which the Pentagon says has put a priority on bolstering its cyber-warfare capability.

Hackers may have attacked computer networks at contractors helping to build the new fighter jet, also known as the F-35, the paper said.

Despite the computer break-in, a Defence Department official said sensitive technology for the Joint Strike Fighter aircraft had not been compromised.

The Wall Street Journal report was the latest in a series of accusations emanating from the United States recently that have warned of an escalating Chinese cyber hacking threat. China has denied all such reports.

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/afp/20090423/tc_afp/usmilitarysecuritychinaithackers

Again, that same issue. Why is
pentagon super-secret project lab connected to internet? This is an obvious breach of security considerations.

Someone will always be hacking in. China? Why not? Everybody is welcome, not everybody is capable.

I wonder if Obama is looking for a scapegoat, just like Bush did, with his Iraq connection.

The question could be asked,
Why allow civilians to use the internet in the first place!
The internet was used exclusively by the government for a long time before allowing civilian access.

Well, not to worry, according to Sen. Rockefeller (funny how that name keeps popping up), the cattle known as the american citizen should never have had access and he wants to hand control of it over to Mr. Obama.

You might as well tell the president he has the power to burn any book, cd, or movie he wants as well.

For the record our sweet loving government has been talking about a push onto a "internet 2", which is a Chinese model.

Austrialia it seems already has begun adopting it as well.

Gotta love that first amendment, which seems to not mean spit to our Government.

This whole chinese blame game and the fact that these critical aspects of "National Security" are attached to the internet takes me back to this:

Problem, Reaction, Solution.

The internet has many protocols and layers of protocols.
HTTP, which we use is not very secure and not the same as that used by other businesses or government agencies!
It is hard to even gain access to some government protocols. esp those used by the NSA!

Even though the ones used by them are more secure, to an intent hacker they are all vulnerable.
Even the GPS signals used to guide missiles is a different GPS signal than available to civilian use, more secure, and a lot more accurate. Still it is not beyond hacking.

When most Americans hear the gov is using cyber-security they only think about HTTP protocol and do not realize that the government has no concern with that aspect of the internet!

There is no wolf!

So why the attempted handover of power for Mr.Obama to shut down or control the internet?

You'll never see a wolf, when you have your head in the sand.

That's quite an exaggeration!

China spies on America as much as America spies on China.

Both sides will use any means neccessary to get intelligence for their needs to flex their muscles or improve their welfare.

Nothing new and it shouldn't be surprising.

No one said it was surprising.
I said there is a real threat to our National Security through the internet and there is a need for the gov to take the threat serious.

The threat concerned does not come through the HTTP protocol and that is not the area that concerns the gov!

I am sure both governments are concerned about the issue and claim to blame the other for breaching into their secrets.

Like I said both countries as of many other countries will occassionally announce concerns or even accuse on the use of breaching of important information pertaining the governments.

As I am by no means a expert on such affairs, perhaps one solution to stop accusing each other on such breachings is to have the information in the good old fashioned way and that is in paper files only.

Whatever the case this competition will never stop and the flexing of muscles will continue as the minds urge on curiousities wanting to attain more information from the other in concerns of national security and more.

I am sure there are many solutions in hand on resolving the problem by brilliant people. If they will be done or practiced is another question.

What if the proof enables the crime to be committed easier and the other party to avoid the detection the next time?

Trust me!
The US knows its being done and who is doing it.
Releasing the proof would give up the methods they use to detect the source!

I'm confused....how does one hack into the government. I would think they would have the best protection.....am i wrong?

Oh yes I agree. I am sure they know for sure and have their methods of resolving the problems if they wanted to, or if they are already without putting it on news.

I read somewhere that many things happen that the CIA practices or whatever the Chinesse agency is called that we don't know of and are not allowed to be mentioned on the news.

So I am not surprised at all that this cat and mouse game is played all the time every minute of the day.

Its not easy but just like a lock a good criminal will always find a way to pick it!
The NSA uses a system of codes over a secure net. Sometimes a spy could give up info or the hacker might run an algorithm program designed to figure the codes out!

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See, i'd knew you'd appreciate that.

i wanna dance too

Mexicans use our guns, China hacks our supercomputers...

I agree with what has been said by war on this one... just seems like a setup for some regulatory legislation.