Topic: congradulations Oklahoma!!!
Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/08/07 10:46 PM
Okla. Gov. Signs Immigration Reform Bill
Published: 5/9/07, 12:25 AM EDT
By TIM TALLEY
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - Gov. Brad Henry signed an immigration bill Tuesday
that tightens employment standards to prevent illegal immigrants from
finding work.

Henry called the legislation, passed overwhelmingly by the House and
Senate, a stopgap measure to deal with an illegal immigration problem
that is the responsibility of the federal government.

"States can take some actions on their own, but until the U.S. Congress
enacts a comprehensive, national immigration policy, citizens will see
little progress on this issue," he said.

The measure requires state and local agencies to verify the citizenship
and immigration status of applicants for state or local benefits.

It also requires public agencies starting Nov. 1 to use a program to
screen Social Security numbers to make sure they are real and match up
with the job applicant's name. Private companies must comply by July 1,
2008.

The measure would not affect emergency medical and humanitarian
services, such as visits to hospital emergency rooms and enrollment in
public schools, that are required by federal law.

More than 100,000 illegal immigrants are estimated to live in Oklahoma.

Immigrant groups said the measure is was a vain attempt to stop illegal
immigration and can lead to discriminatory barriers to housing and jobs.

The groups are considering a challenge to the new law's
constitutionality, saying that immigration policy is the domain of the
federal government, not the state.

"It's going to take us back," said Ray Madrid, state director of the
League of United Latin American Citizens. "I'm sure there's going to be
neighbors turning neighbors in."

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 05/08/07 10:53 PM
Well if they are here legally they have nothing to worry about.

If they are here illegally they best be looking for a new home.

Tell me... as long as some group or another keeps tieing this up in
court can they enforce it?

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 05/09/07 08:18 AM
I am an Okie, and I have seen the immigration come in and swoop away the
illegals. They seem to do it about twice a year. A company I worked for
was fined heavily for this, but they keep coming back in. They just need
to keep tabs on them and make them begin the legal process and follow
through.

There are so many illegal people here it is astounding. The grocery
stores are accomadating to them more than I ever thought they would be.

My only complaint of the illegals is I think they should have to speak
our language to live here. Some do well, others don't even try.

If I was to live in thier country, I would have to learn their language
in order to survive.

Kat

gardenforge's photo
Wed 05/09/07 08:43 AM
Well that's one down and 49 to go. The states will have to address the
illegal alien problem because the Federal governmnet won't. Both sides
are afraid that it will cost them enough votes that they will loose
power if they do. One more reason for a 1 term limit on elected
offices.

GaMail50's photo
Wed 05/09/07 12:31 PM
I think the solution to the problem is fine the employers. If the fines
are heavy enough they will quit hiring them. You wouldn't have to deport
them then, they would go home on their own.

gardenforge's photo
Wed 05/09/07 12:44 PM
The solution to the problem is enforce the existing laws. There is
already a law on the books that provices for serious fines for employers
who hire people without documenting that they are legally eligable to
work in this country.

GaMail50's photo
Wed 05/09/07 12:46 PM
This is true Garden but like you say they need to enforce. Several years
ago they did a raid on a chicken processing plant near here. Found 10
people using the same ID papers. Deported them, did nothing to the
employer.

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 05/09/07 08:09 PM
Do you think the Federal Government wants the states to take this
situation out of their hands?? Could be.

Then again, if enough states begin passing immigration laws, we could
find out real quick if this is NOT what is desired by The Federal
powers.

If we begin seeing new legislature suggestions, that states can not
create individual immigration laws, that could be very telling indeed.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/09/07 09:15 PM
I posted one day of all the Federal cases against the States, that have
created laws just like this. They claim it is not the states
jurisdiction but they do nothing, and have blocked over a dozen cases
just like this. I could look them up for you red, but I know you can
find them.. When you do post them here. Cool?

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/10/07 06:26 AM
here redy I found it for ya......

Laws Against Illegal Immigrants

Published: 1/20/07, 2:25 PM EDT
By The Associated Press


(AP) - A glance at how some local laws targeting illegal immigrants
have fared in places where they are being fought in court:

_Hazleton, Pa.: Federal judge blocked enforcement pending March trial.

_Valley Park, Mo.: State judge blocked enforcement pending March trial.

_Farmers Branch, Texas: State judge blocked enforcement. City Council to
vote on repeal; might place revised measure before voters.

_Escondido, Calif.: Federal judge blocked enforcement. City Council
killed ordinance but might craft replacement.

_Riverside, N.J.: Lawsuits filed in state court. Township has yet to
enforce ordinance.

_Cherokee County, Ga.: Federal lawsuit filed. County agreed to delay
enforcement.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/10/07 06:36 AM



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Federal judges vs. the will of the people

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Posted: February 11, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern




This country belongs to the people. The will of the people is reflected
through the ballot box when citizens of the 50 independent republics
vote for individuals to fill elected offices. Each office at every level
of government has a specific job description and function. The state
legislature is basically the overseer for the state itself, but it's
ability to legislate is checked by the U.S. and state constitutions.


Over the past several decades, the will of the people has been stomped
on by federal judges who thumb their nose at the law and the voters.
Consider the following examples.

Proposition 187 in California was a 1994 ballot measure which sought to
restrict benefits for illegal immigrants. Illegal aliens have no
constitutional rights because they are not citizens. The only action
they are entitled to is immediate deportation. The sovereign citizens of
the state of California passed this ballot measure. In a New York
second, U.S. District Judge Mariana Pfaelzer held most parts of Prop.
187 unconstitutional. In her final ruling, Pfaelzer rejected
California's attempt to regulate immigration, which she said is the
federal government's responsibility.

While it is true that immigration is the jurisdiction of the federal
government, there is no intention to stop the massive invasion by
illegals from Washington, D.C. Last year, the cost of supporting
illegals in California was $10.5 billion dollars. The people of
California are under no legal or moral obligation to be taxed into
poverty to support criminals and that's exactly what illegals who
smuggle themselves across the border are: criminals, just like a bank
robber or arsonist. They broke the law to enter the country.

The decision by Judge Pfaelzer incensed the voters of California who
maintain that upholding immigration law is the only way to keep
criminals and terrorists from crossing the border, not to mention the
massive burden to the taxpayers of California to support more than 3
million illegals in our state. However, certain Hispanic leaders have a
different agenda.

Mario Obledo, founding member/former national director of
Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and former
California secretary health and welfare stated on a popular talk-radio
show:


We're going to take over all the political institutions in California.
In five years, the Hispanics are going to be the majority population of
this state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave.


Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington and
founder of the La Raza Unida political party:


We have an aging white America ... They are dying ... We have got to
eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to
the worst, we have got to kill him.


Augustin Cebada, information minister of Brown Berets, militant
para-military soldiers of Aztlan shouting at U.S. citizens at an
Independence Day rally in Los Angeles:


... Brown Berets, we're here today to show L.A., show the minority
people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we're
here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled
brat children ... We're here in Westwood ... to show white Anglo-Saxon
Protestant L.A., the few of you who remain, that we are the majority,
and we claim this land as ours, it's always been ours, and we're still
here, and none of the talk about deporting.

If anyone's going to be deported, it's going to be you! ... Get out! We
are the future. You're old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you – leave
like beaten rats. You old white people, it is your duty to die. Right
now, we're already controlling those elections, whether it's by violence
or nonviolence. Through love of having children we're going to take
over.


Proposition 200 was passed by the voters in Arizona this past November.
Arizona is a state suffering massive financial and law enforcement
problems because of illegals. The people passed Prop. 200 which requires
all Arizonans to prove citizenship when registering to vote and show ID
when voting in person. It requires that state and local government
employees check the immigration papers of Arizonans seeking public
benefits.

The election was no sooner over when the Mexican American Legal Defense
and Education Fund, or MALDEF, ran to court and U.S. District Judge
David C. Bury temporarily blocked enforcement over the issue of
constitutionality. Fortunately, the block was lifted, but not after
another ton of money was spent fighting these special-interest groups
who care nothing for the law, only advancing their agenda.

Out-of-control judges is one of the major problems plaguing America and
why the fraudulent ratification of the 17th Amendment must be resolved
by the States. Congress has refused to oust federal judges legislating
from the bench or catering to special-interest groups. Appointed U.S.
senators – as was the mandate by those who created the federal
government – would give the states the clout they need to have their
appointed senators move to remove bad judges. It's called "states'
rights" and gives more local control for the sovereign people of the
states.

For those who wish to get a comprehensive understanding on this critical
issue, I respectfully recommend you read: "The 17th Amendment" by Nathan
Lehman and "Amplifying the 10th Amendment" by John MacMullin, which also
succinctly covers the 17th Amendment issue.

The fraudulent ratification of the 17th Amendment is the key to solving
so many cancers eating away at our Republic. Even Zell Miller, a former
U.S. senator, agrees this is the only way to restore the balance of
power in Congress and for the states. Now it's up to the people to force
this issue with their state legislatures.