Topic: Is this what America does?
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Mon 05/25/09 04:27 PM
Edited by SharpShooter10 on Mon 05/25/09 04:34 PM


Al Queda attacked us.

In response we demanded from the Taliban (who were governing Afghanistan at the time) that they turn over Osam Bin Laden or forfeit their right to govern.

When they refused was when we attacked them


Well then, that pretty much gives them (the bearded guys in Afghanistan mountains) to kidnap anyone here.

As far as they are concerned, we have attacked them. All they need to do is to demand from our government to turn over Cheney, and if we don't, then they can proceed kidnapping us and doing whatever they think "non-afghani" deserve.

In fact, they will be more justified in doing so, because unlike our invented story of "911 hijackers", the whole world knows what we have done to them.

I see no difference between us and those we love to hate. Without declaration of war, our warring actions must be considered to be those of private individuals, and as such indistinguishable from act of a common criminal.
How the hell do you suppose we invented 9/11 and the hijackers. That's the most absurd theory I keep hearing, it was all a conspiracy,slaphead rofl

when the japs bombed us on a calm peaceful sunday morning and killed less people, we went to war

were the three thousand in the WTC less important? I think not. we should hunt down and kill everyone we find that does things like that. If you don't think it can happen again and probably will with the current administration making apologies to everyone and chumming up with them like oh, we are so sorry, we will be nice now.

Everyone wants to blame bush, what about that idiot clinton that could have took him out and didn't, nooooo, no body wants to blame an adulterous lying sack of crap like him.

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Mon 05/25/09 04:58 PM



when the japs bombed us on a calm peaceful sunday morning and killed less people, we went to war


USA was at war with Japan and all the Axis countries.


were the three thousand in the WTC less important? I think not. we should hunt down and kill everyone we find that does things like that. If you don't think it can happen again and probably will with the current administration making apologies to everyone and chumming up with them like oh, we are so sorry, we will be nice now.


Terrorism has been going on all around the world, every single country gets a share of it, let it be bombing or kidnapping or suicide bomber attacks.
USA has not been attacked on its own soil since Pearl Harbor, but even that was on an island, not the mainland. It's a wake up call for sure and as most other countries said "join the boat" with the terrorist attacks.




Everyone wants to blame bush, what about that idiot clinton that could have took him out and didn't, nooooo, no body wants to blame an adulterous lying sack of crap like him.


"lying sack of crap" ?

If Clinton is a "lying sack of crap" then, don't know what words should be used for Bush. But since I don't go to that level I would say politicians lie, some lie less, some more each of them has their share, but don't you think it's a bit extreme to call the former president as a "lying sack of crap" ?

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Mon 05/25/09 06:16 PM




when the japs bombed us on a calm peaceful sunday morning and killed less people, we went to war


USA was at war with Japan and all the Axis countries.


were the three thousand in the WTC less important? I think not. we should hunt down and kill everyone we find that does things like that. If you don't think it can happen again and probably will with the current administration making apologies to everyone and chumming up with them like oh, we are so sorry, we will be nice now.


Terrorism has been going on all around the world, every single country gets a share of it, let it be bombing or kidnapping or suicide bomber attacks.
USA has not been attacked on its own soil since Pearl Harbor, but even that was on an island, not the mainland. It's a wake up call for sure and as most other countries said "join the boat" with the terrorist attacks.




Everyone wants to blame bush, what about that idiot clinton that could have took him out and didn't, nooooo, no body wants to blame an adulterous lying sack of crap like him.


"lying sack of crap" ?

If Clinton is a "lying sack of crap" then, don't know what words should be used for Bush. But since I don't go to that level I would say politicians lie, some lie less, some more each of them has their share, but don't you think it's a bit extreme to call the former president as a "lying sack of crap" ?
not at all atlantis, he was, not just him, all of them are. Bush was not perfect but I still believe was a better choice than Kerry and Gore. I mean, all of them are lying sacks of crap in one way or another, even the messiah, obama . and if " I did not have sexual relations with that woman" wasn't an adulterous lying sack of chit, nothing else could be laugh drinker I have no sympathy for any extremist muslims these days, just my position, hunt em down, kill them. The ones at gitmo have it pretty good as far as food, shelter and medical care, I don't feel sorry for them. Not to say there is not a chance that someone is there wrongly and turned in by a neighbor for money, but chit happens. They would treat us much worse I believe. None of our politicians have a clue what the average constituent wants, they are all in there own little worlds and can't smell the coffee. Clinton turned out to really suck, and I voted for him so I can say he is a lying sack of chit, they all are.

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Mon 05/25/09 06:22 PM
Obama will in the end be remembered as a weak president that was just as much a liar as all the rest of them. They will tell you what you want to hear for the vote and then follow their own agenda. And I expect that other countries will not and do not fear him as they have others like Reagan and Bush, and others. Clinton was not feared, Obama is not feared. I hope I am wrong on Obama but don't think I will be

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Mon 05/25/09 06:22 PM
Two wrongs dont make a right!
Bush policies have created more terrorists than they have stopped!

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Mon 05/25/09 06:26 PM
QUOTE:

Everyone wants to blame bush, what about that idiot clinton that could have took him out and didn't, nooooo, no body wants to blame an adulterous lying sack of crap like him.



"lying sack of crap" ?

If Clinton is a "lying sack of crap" then, don't know what words should be used for Bush. But since I don't go to that level I would say politicians lie, some lie less, some more each of them has their share, but don't you think it's a bit extreme to call the former president as a "lying sack of crap" ?

clinton could have got Bin Laden but he was to busy getting a quickie from "that woman" he did not have sex with, lol

I don't agree with bush going into Iraq but it doesn't bother me that much. We should have instead concentrated all that effort on Afghanistan. They will never find bin laden anyway, I think he is already dead, he was in very poor health years ago and is probably dead but they don't want us to know for sure.

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Mon 05/25/09 06:28 PM
USA was at war with Japan and all the Axis countries


not at first, just germany and the axis countries, japan wasn't until after pearl harbor, still american soil, even if not the mainland

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Mon 05/25/09 06:33 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Mon 05/25/09 06:39 PM

Topic: Is this what America does?


actually yes it is

I would refere you to the Cherokee "Trail of Tears"

or the Navajo "Long Walk"

or a place called "Andersonville"

or "Wounded Knee"

or "Mei Lai"

or "Abu Graib"


Spot on!!! Historically and hysterically it is as long as the length of your european settlement...

it's an inherant destructive gene that was spread across the planet...South Africa....Australia...Papua New Guinea...New Zealand...Canada...etc etc etc..

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Mon 05/25/09 08:57 PM

Two wrongs dont make a right!
Bush policies have created more terrorists than they have stopped!



Unless, Fanta, UNLESS, you believe in the story that Bush has sold to Americans, about Talibal "Hating" freedom so much, they actually could not sit in the cave any longer, came out and started their long work on 911 project.

If you do, then terrorists are created as a byproduct of freedom, in underground cavities.

This was the cheesiest bogeyman excuse ever invented, and it was a Bushism written all over it, and yet, most do believe it.

Oops, sorry. Actually by the latest polls, only a minority believes that the magical 911 story did happen as Bush said it did.

But yeah, I doubt that even a most devoted evil follower, sits somewhere in the desert with a sole idea of killing someone who does not bother him at all.

May-be it was the WTO, that was an evil character in that story?

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Mon 05/25/09 08:59 PM

USA was at war with Japan and all the Axis countries


not at first, just germany and the axis countries, japan wasn't until after pearl harbor, still american soil, even if not the mainland


Well, we're not at war with either Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan. There was no declaration of war.

What we have now is an activity of certain high power figures, using nation's armed forces in their private agendas.

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Mon 05/25/09 09:17 PM

USA was at war with Japan and all the Axis countries


not at first, just germany and the axis countries, japan wasn't until after pearl harbor, still american soil, even if not the mainland


in actuality

japan bombed pearl

the u s declared war on japan

shortly after germany declared war on the u s

until then u s was only suspected sending supplies to help europe

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Mon 05/25/09 09:19 PM


USA was at war with Japan and all the Axis countries


not at first, just germany and the axis countries, japan wasn't until after pearl harbor, still american soil, even if not the mainland


Well, we're not at war with either Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan. There was no declaration of war.

What we have now is an activity of certain high power figures, using nation's armed forces in their private agendas.


the u s has not been in a declared war with another sovereign nation since ww2

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Mon 05/25/09 11:10 PM



USA was at war with Japan and all the Axis countries


not at first, just germany and the axis countries, japan wasn't until after pearl harbor, still american soil, even if not the mainland


Well, we're not at war with either Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan. There was no declaration of war.

What we have now is an activity of certain high power figures, using nation's armed forces in their private agendas.


the u s has not been in a declared war with another sovereign nation since ww2


Are you sure Congress didnt declare war on the Taliban?
Hell I cant remember now!

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Mon 05/25/09 11:13 PM
the war was declared on terrorism

and yer either for us or against us

and the taliban is not a sovereign nation

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Mon 05/25/09 11:23 PM

the war was declared on terrorism

and yer either for us or against us

and the taliban is not a sovereign nation


They were in charge of Afghanistan though!

yer either for us or against us LMAO!
Famous words aye?

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Mon 05/25/09 11:28 PM
but afganistan is a sovereign nation not the taliban

that would be like iraq declaring war on the republican party because bush was a republican

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Mon 05/25/09 11:58 PM

but afganistan is a sovereign nation not the taliban

that would be like iraq declaring war on the republican party because bush was a republican


The Taliban wasn't elected by the people.
They had the opportunity to turn over the leaders of Al Qaeda but chose war instead!
They had the chance.
They were the Gov of Afghanistan and they will return if not defeated.
They are a radical extreme religious faction who chooses to rule by terror.
They must be defeated or turn over our enemies!

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Tue 05/26/09 11:47 AM
That sound like reading from Bush teleprompter, man.

What business we have in determination of Afghanistan should be ruled by an elected or unelected official? Who died and made us an all-knowing decider?

The truth is by announcing a war against terror, we wished to announce that we will attack anyone who doesn't define terror as we do. A war against the whole world, to bend them all to our thinking.

Beyond winnable or not, it is just unamerican to interfere in affairs of others in this way. This is what tyrants do, like Taliban, according to Bush.

As to Taliban not turning over Osama... why should they? Imagine someone blows up Afghani building, and they say it was Fanta, according to their "intelligence". Should US government now turn him over or be destroyed? Wtf?

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Tue 05/26/09 02:13 PM



Al Queda attacked us.

In response we demanded from the Taliban (who were governing Afghanistan at the time) that they turn over Osam Bin Laden or forfeit their right to govern.

When they refused was when we attacked them


Well then, that pretty much gives them (the bearded guys in Afghanistan mountains) to kidnap anyone here.

As far as they are concerned, we have attacked them. All they need to do is to demand from our government to turn over Cheney, and if we don't, then they can proceed kidnapping us and doing whatever they think "non-afghani" deserve.

In fact, they will be more justified in doing so, because unlike our invented story of "911 hijackers", the whole world knows what we have done to them.

I see no difference between us and those we love to hate. Without declaration of war, our warring actions must be considered to be those of private individuals, and as such indistinguishable from act of a common criminal.
How the hell do you suppose we invented 9/11 and the hijackers. That's the most absurd theory I keep hearing, it was all a conspiracy,slaphead rofl

when the japs bombed us on a calm peaceful sunday morning and killed less people, we went to war

were the three thousand in the WTC less important? I think not. we should hunt down and kill everyone we find that does things like that. If you don't think it can happen again and probably will with the current administration making apologies to everyone and chumming up with them like oh, we are so sorry, we will be nice now.

Everyone wants to blame bush, what about that idiot clinton that could have took him out and didn't, nooooo, no body wants to blame an adulterous lying sack of crap like him.


At least 9 of the "supposed" hijackers have been confirmed as "alive and well" around the world....... If Bush and cronies lied about that, where does the "conspiracy theory" really begin or lie? It was also stated that all but 6 were "Arab" so why a attack Iraq who was 100% AGAINST Al Queida, until then.

Also, the Afgan Taliban replied to the US demand to surrender Bin Laden saying "show us proof he was involved with the 9/11 attacks and we will surrender him......", we couldn't!~ Even the FBIs "most wanted" list puts Bin Laden at #1, but it is for other crimes, not 9/11, because they say they can't prove his involvement to charge him with that crime!

It took 2 years to figure out who was responsible for the bombing and crash of PanAm flight 800 over Lockabee, but on 9/11 we had the names of 19 hijackers on the news within 30 minutes after the attack. This in itself raises a question since none of the "supposed" hijackers names appear on the passenger manifests for those flights..... so where did they get their info?

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Tue 05/26/09 02:22 PM

the war was declared on terrorism

and yer either for us or against us

and the taliban is not a sovereign nation


The war on obesity was declared too.

Can we please declare victory and exchange prisoners. I want my 31" waist back.slaphead