Topic: Founder foresight
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Fri 05/29/09 03:58 AM
It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.
James Madison

It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.
James Madison

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Fri 05/29/09 07:53 AM
drinker

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Sat 05/30/09 10:53 AM
I have no doubt but that the misery of the lower classes will be found to abate whenever the Government assumes a freer aspect and the laws favor a subdivision of Property.
James Madison


I should not regret a fair and full trial of the entire abolition of capital punishment.
James Madison

In no instance have... the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.
James Madison

It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.
James Madison

There is no maxim, in my opinion, which is more liable to be misapplied, and which, therefore, more needs elucidation, than the current one, that the interest of the majority is the political standard of right and wrong.
James Madison

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Sat 05/30/09 11:09 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sat 05/30/09 11:12 AM

I have no doubt but that the misery of the lower classes will be found to abate whenever the Government assumes a freer aspect and the laws favor a subdivision of Property.
James Madison


I should not regret a fair and full trial of the entire abolition of capital punishment.
James Madison

In no instance have... the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.
James Madison

It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.
James Madison

There is no maxim, in my opinion, which is more liable to be misapplied, and which, therefore, more needs elucidation, than the current one, that the interest of the majority is the political standard of right and wrong.
James Madison


interesting quotes after saying this about him and the others that penned the constitution



Do not fall in love with the few words that 18th century farmers and clergymen who didn't know to wash their hands wrote. Love the living breathing expanding constitution that is relevent to today and tomorrow.



Sat 05/23/09 06:31 AM
Topic: Is this what America does?


interesting

very interesting

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James Madison's Contribution to the Constitution
When James Madison and the other 56 delegates to the Constitutional Convention met in Philadelphia in May 1787, they intended to amend the Articles of Confederation. They ended up creating a new constitution, and Madison, representing Virginia, became the chief recorder of information (he took a lot of notes).


http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/aa/presidents/madison/father_1

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Sat 05/30/09 04:58 PM
Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
James Madison


By rendering the labor of one, the property of the other, they cherish pride, luxury, and vanity on one side; on the other, vice and servility, or hatred and revolt.
James Madison

Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.
James Madison




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Sat 05/30/09 05:13 PM
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up every time we do.
confucius

Kat

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Sat 05/30/09 05:14 PM
The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come. When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin. When all is orderly, he does not forget that disorder may come. Thus his person is not endangered, and his States and all their clans are preserved.
Confucius

Kat

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Sat 05/30/09 05:15 PM
Oh!! And this one ;

won hung lo....by tracks in the sandrofl rofl rofl

Kat

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Sat 05/30/09 05:28 PM
I guess my point is if we want to know what the founding fathers were thinking it is all there to read!!!

A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce, or a tragedy, or perhaps both.
James Madison

Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.
James Madison

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Sat 05/30/09 05:54 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Sat 05/30/09 05:55 PM
Delivered 11 June 1963:
I hope that every American, regardless of where he lives, will stop and examine his conscience about this and other related incidents. This Nation was founded by men of many nations and backgrounds. It was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.
John F. Kennedy


I thought of this quote early this week, when the California Superior Court ruled to uphold proposition 8. How can so many not see the duality with which they view equality?

Kennedy was not a founding father, but I suspect he knew better than most, what the founding fathers would have supported.

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Sat 05/30/09 07:25 PM
Edited by JosefQuewl on Sat 05/30/09 07:27 PM
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson

Never spend your money before you have earned it.
Thomas Jefferson

Peace and abstinence from European interferences are our objects,
and so will continue while the present order of things in America remain undisturbed.
Thomas Jefferson