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Topic: Not meant to offend anyone...but WOW!
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Sat 05/30/09 09:02 AM
WOW! WHAT A LETTER!

Letter from one 'Angry Woman'
I don't know who wrote it but they should have signed it. Some powerful words.. This woman should run for president.
Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one ticked off lady.

'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?
Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was 'desecrated' when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?...Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia

I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for chopping off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide .

I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank: I don't care..

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed 'special' food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and-you guessed it-I don't care!!

If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends.. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!

If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country! And may I add:

'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem' -- Ronald Reagan

I have another quote that I would like to add AND........I hope you forward all this.

'If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under' Also by.. Ronald Reagan

One last thought for the day:

In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the Anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America , he said: 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.'

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1.. Jesus Christ
2. The American G. I.

One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

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Sat 05/30/09 09:15 AM
There are several problem I always have with this sort of rhetoric. The primary problem is bringing god into it. We are one nation under many gods. Perhaps my god is not your god?

Perhaps I do not worship god at all? This type of post is exactly why I stay out of the religion and politics forums.


P.S. I knew a couple of people and several of my students had relatives that died in the World Trade Center.


P.P.S. I remember one of the first lessons I was taught as a child was two wrongs do not make a right.


P.P.P.S. I served in the military.

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Sat 05/30/09 09:18 AM

There are several problem I always have with this sort of rhetoric. The primary problem is bringing god into it. We are one nation under many gods. Perhaps my god is not your god?

Perhaps I do not worship god at all? This type of post is exactly why I stay out of the religion and politics forums.


P.S. I knew a couple of people and several of my students had relatives that died in the World Trade Center.


P.P.S. I remember one of the first lessons I was taught as a child was two wrongs do not make a right.


P.P.P.S. I served in the military.
And as I said...not meant to offendflowerforyou

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Sat 05/30/09 09:19 AM
:banana: seems to me as if it might be a case of PMS. be seeing you

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Sat 05/30/09 09:20 AM


There are several problem I always have with this sort of rhetoric. The primary problem is bringing god into it. We are one nation under many gods. Perhaps my god is not your god?

Perhaps I do not worship god at all? This type of post is exactly why I stay out of the religion and politics forums.


P.S. I knew a couple of people and several of my students had relatives that died in the World Trade Center.


P.P.S. I remember one of the first lessons I was taught as a child was two wrongs do not make a right.


P.P.P.S. I served in the military.
And as I said...not meant to offendflowerforyou



Disclaimers do not count when posting inflammatory rhetoric. It is like saying, I did not mean to damage anything when I set that building on fire. This type of post should be in the political thread.

smokin Out of sight out of mind. smokin

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Sat 05/30/09 09:22 AM
My problem with it is that not every muslim is a terrorist, the same as not every christian is a kindhearted and compassionate person.

So I give my respect and admiration to the individual and refuse to allow anyone to influence my opinion of an entire group, based on the actions of a few. That's bigotry at its finest, in my opinion.

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Sat 05/30/09 09:24 AM
I can understand this woman's anger. I think we have all thought similar things at one time or another but to NOT care?

I do care.....I care about the state of our world. I care that people are hurt everyday. I care about people I do not know. I care about peace.

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Sat 05/30/09 09:26 AM
The problem is mankind, we destroy far more than we create. We breed only to watch them go off and fight for something we neither believe in the cause or the reason, but we have no choice...because if you are not in the armed forces, you better hope you are rich already...

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Sat 05/30/09 09:27 AM
I like Gypsy's butt

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Sat 05/30/09 09:29 AM
:banana: i agree with Mitch,this thread should be moved but i will say,there are loons on The Left and loons on The Right. this woman is obviously a Right-Wing loon. be seeing you

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Sat 05/30/09 09:33 AM
"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?"

-----We arn't at war with Islam.We are at war with terrorists.Some Muslim countries are our allies.


"I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia"


-----We arn't at war with Saudi Arabia.They are our ally.

"I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for chopping off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat."

------That was done by terrorists in Pakistan.Another country we are allied with.

"I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques."

----Thought she said we were at war and she didn't care about Islam?


"I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide ."

----Nirvana is a Buddhist belief not Islamic.She got her religions mixed up.

" I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights."

----What?

"In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care."

-----None of the terrorists that attacked us were Iraqi.

"When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care."

------Rape is a college hazing incident?

"When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed 'special' food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care."

----Then why does she care about their mosques?

"And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and-you guessed it-I don't care!!"


---She don't seem to care about getting facts straight either.








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Sat 05/30/09 09:34 AM
the only thing i can say is this:after we (yes i said WE)started the war with Iraq,we have scattered so many troops through out the world,we have very few left to defend our homeland

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Sat 05/30/09 09:39 AM

"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?"

-----We arn't at war with Islam.We are at war with terrorists.Some Muslim countries are our allies.


"I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia"


-----We arn't at war with Saudi Arabia.They are our ally.

"I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for chopping off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat."

------That was done by terrorists in Pakistan.Another country we are allied with.

"I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques."

----Thought she said we were at war and she didn't care about Islam?


"I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide ."

----Nirvana is a Buddhist belief not Islamic.She got her religions mixed up.

" I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights."

----What?

"In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care."

-----None of the terrorists that attacked us were Iraqi.

"When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care."

------Rape is a college hazing incident?

"When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed 'special' food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care."

----Then why does she care about their mosques?

"And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and-you guessed it-I don't care!!"


---She don't seem to care about getting facts straight either.










:thumbsup: laugh

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Sat 05/30/09 09:41 AM


"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?"

-----We arn't at war with Islam.We are at war with terrorists.Some Muslim countries are our allies.


"I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia"


-----We arn't at war with Saudi Arabia.They are our ally.

"I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for chopping off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat."

------That was done by terrorists in Pakistan.Another country we are allied with.

"I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques."

----Thought she said we were at war and she didn't care about Islam?


"I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide ."

----Nirvana is a Buddhist belief not Islamic.She got her religions mixed up.

" I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights."

----What?

"In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care."

-----None of the terrorists that attacked us were Iraqi.

"When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care."

------Rape is a college hazing incident?

"When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed 'special' food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care."

----Then why does she care about their mosques?

"And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and-you guessed it-I don't care!!"


---She don't seem to care about getting facts straight either.










:thumbsup: laugh


I was going to do something similar but you got to it first.

grumble :wink: laugh

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Sat 05/30/09 09:41 AM
this woman is doing exactly what she says THEY shoudlnt do.
just because you dont understand or agree with someones beliefs...doesnt mean you can trash them like she does in this letter.

i dont believe in god.so yeah im an athiest.and as long as people dont preach their little hearts out to me..then i respect their beliefs.
i respect all peoples beliefs...despite how crazy they are....

*cough*crazy christian homophobes*cough* :)

ANYHOO....lol

im a woman...and i think this lady was just pms'ing :)

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Sat 05/30/09 09:43 AM
seriously as said before two wrongs dont make a right...
im muslim and seeing something like this infuriates me,
islam does not preach terror and people that do it in the name of islam are fanatics, but to desecrate a holy book is offending the same muslims that are telling the terrorrist that they are wrong, dont u c the problem here...
and besides, islam preaches respect to all faiths, if i c my own brother desecrate a bible i would b the first to stop him, i think u should think about doing the same

i usually dont post.... but this is important enough to break the habit!

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Sat 05/30/09 09:45 AM
and second of all....
not all of the people over there tht read the kuran...-koran...whatever-...are fanatics.
i know someone who is dating a guy that reads it and follows some of it..hes not a fanatic.

and same
goes for other religions... not all christians are idiotic homophobes :D

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Sat 05/30/09 09:48 AM

seriously as said before two wrongs dont make a right...
im muslim and seeing something like this infuriates me,
islam does not preach terror and people that do it in the name of islam are fanatics, but to desecrate a holy book is offending the same muslims that are telling the terrorrist that they are wrong, dont u c the problem here...
and besides, islam preaches respect to all faiths, if i c my own brother desecrate a bible i would b the first to stop him, i think u should think about doing the same

i usually dont post.... but this is important enough to break the habit!


right on man...right on :)

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Sat 05/30/09 09:55 AM
There are many Muslims here in Florida...He!! they own about every 7-11 type store in the state...They are good hard working people....They should give lessons on customer service as many of the So called American stores seem to have none!!!!!

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Sat 05/30/09 10:08 AM
Christians have had their Holy Crusade and their Spanish Inquisition. The Christian religion has been used to nearly decimate Native Americans along with other native groups like the Aztecs and Incans.

I don't group Christian zealots with all Christians, most of whom of pleasant decent people. And I wouldn't group all muslims and people of arabic descent with terrorists.

This person acts like 9/11 was the most horrendous thing in the history of mankind. Tragic, sure, do people have a right to be angry, of course but if viewed in historical context...we did drop 2 atomic bombs in Japan, how many little kids and babies and old people in hospitals did that kill? Japan seems to have gotten over it and don't hate us anymore. In historical context there have been far greater tragedies.

I have a feeling that this kind of reaction is what the terrorists want, they'd prefer it for americans to attack and denigrate all muslims and people of arabic descent since it gives them the ability to recruit and continue a cycle of war and hatred.

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