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| Topic: Refeuling a Russian cargo jet....in the UP of MI! | |
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http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=326195 More information has been released about five Ukrainian Nationals who were arrested at Sawyer International Airport. An Immigration Customs Enforcement agent told us the five were taken into custody because their Visas expired. As TV6 reported Saturday, the five, along with four others landed at Sawyer Friday to refuel their Russian cargo jet. That's when local authorities discovered the five Ukrainians, including the pilot, were in violation of U.S. immigration laws. Federal agents say their Visas expired July 1. U.S. Immigration lawyers could charge the five as unlawful aliens in the country. They're now being held in the Chippewa County Jail pending immigration hearings. A Russian cargo jet is sitting on the tarmac at Sawyer International Airport Saturday, and five Ukrainian Nationals are in federal custody after violating immigration laws. The Marquette County Sheriff's Office says the five suspects, along with four others, were traveling in a huge Russian IL-78 tanker jet Friday. They landed at Sawyer International Airport to refuel. The sheriff's office received information from a Texas court that the aircraft and crew members were involved in a civil dispute in Texas. During their investigation, authorities discovered five of the nine-member crew were in violation of immigration laws. The pilot was one of those taken into custody. Federal authorities, including immigration customs enforcement agents, were called in to assist the sheriff's department. The five, all Ukrainian Nationals, are being held in Sault Ste. Marie by U.S. Border Protection Agents, pending immigration hearings. |
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http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=326929 SAWYER -- UPDATE: Tuesday, July 21, 9:30 a.m.: As of 9 a.m. Tuesday morning, it has not been determined when that plane will be released. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent we spoke with says that the men are in Sault Ste. Marie. At issue is that they overstayed their visas which means they will need new authorization to fly the plane out. If they do not get it, then they will be flown out of the country on a commercial flight and the plane parked until a new pilot can be found. ------------------------------------ A Russian tanker that landed at Sawyer International Airport to refuel on Friday is still sitting at the airport as of Monday night. Five of the crew members, who are Ukrainian Nationals, were detained over immigration violations. According to an immigration and customs enforcement agent, the men were being held in Sault Ste. Marie one more night and are cleared to leave the U.S. Tuesday. There are some paperwork snags with the plane. If those are cleared up, the plane along with its crew members will leave Tuesday. Authorities say there are no charges against the men; it's an administrative matter, not criminal. The plane had been sitting in Texas the last four months and did have FAA approval to fly from Texas to Marquette. Immigration officials say the plane is being demilitarized and reconfigured for civilian use as a water tanker to put out fires. According to the flight plan that was filed, the plane will go from Sawyer to Iceland and then on to Pakistan. |
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I guess the people are going to leave the US via commercial flight... the plane stays here in Marquette, MI. I guess they forgot to pay the bills for the plane renovation in Texas..so the plane stays here and they go home... I wonder who is going to pay for the plane? |
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I guess the people are going to leave the US via commercial flight... the plane stays here in Marquette, MI. I guess they forgot to pay the bills for the plane renovation in Texas..so the plane stays here and they go home... I wonder who is going to pay for the plane? I wonder what cargo is on it... destined for Pakistan... That is so important the immigration service was used to detain it? They sure as heck don't jump on other 'overstayed visas' this fast. |
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just more Americans harassing good people.nothing more
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just more Americans harassing good people.nothing more Lets see. They are here on expired visas and trying to fly a plane out that has had repairs that weren't paid for. And we're letting them fly home. Yep, harassment at its worst. |
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OK let me get this straight you arrest Ukraine people. but you let illegal aliens run free. makes since i guess.
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OK let me get this straight you arrest Ukraine people. but you let illegal aliens run free. makes since i guess. They weren't arrested. It wasn't criminal. They were detained because of their visas and are being allowed to leave. And I have yet to see an illegal immigrant flying a russian tanker, that was not certified for flight, across the U.S. |
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so lets get this straight you are telling me that they detained them because of there visa. but yet you have illegals pulled over buy cops. and are not allowed to asked them for there green card. makes perfect since. if your a complete moron. [no not calling u a moron]
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so lets get this straight you are telling me that they detained them because of there visa. but yet you have illegals pulled over buy cops. and are not allowed to asked them for there green card. makes perfect since. if your a complete moron. [no not calling u a moron] makes perfect sense from that point of view... illegals in cars can't do half the damage a fueled cargo jet can do. |
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you might have a point. but still think its harassment.
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The airport up here is an old AFB...there is something like 12,000 feet of runway. They are not releasing any information about what was on the cargo carrier, if anything. On the news, it showed that it was taped off. They also have huge hangers on the property where they said they may move the plane after it is fully inspected. It is pretty remote up here and most of the land is not developed. There is 200 miles of water straight north to Canada... I was outside when the plane flew in for landing as they generally land from the north and go out over Lake Superior...it is not often that a plane that large flies over...most planes are prop jets, so that gives you an idea of the general flight traffic!! There seemed to be quite a few "official" looking people around when the news reported this over the weekend... |
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mike is making a legit argument
but it is in the wrong direction they should be picking up all illegals not just the ones with millions in assets just a thought but hey............. |
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you might have a point. but still think its harassment. I actually do not see it as harassment, I see it as a start...albeit a very very small start... The deal is up here...the Upper Peninsula of MI...there is a land area of about 17,000 sq miles, with about 300,000 people, not too many people really. Marquette County, where the airport is located, has 70,000 people and is the largest population of any of the counties. Having a cargo jet land here is NOT a common event, in fact, having a 737 or any plane larger than a 52 passenger jet is not common at all. So, this plane stuck out up here...massively. I would imagine that this would be a pretty regular event at some other airports; here the security many times is the local sheriff for the area, along with FAA workers. We do not have a 24 hour airport, we do not have more than one security area, we do not have more than 20 flights a day....so this would be an attention getter for sure! I honestly think that if this plane would have landed at a larger airport, they may have gone unnoticed! IF they would have gotten stopped in a car and did not have a US drivers license, I would bet the same thing would have happened here. I agree that all people who are not in this country legally, need to go back to their own country. I was actually pretty surprised that they would even land at a place so remote... (There are a LOT of rumors around here of a very active militia, and I have no reason to believe otherwise from some of the things I have seen...) |
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Edited by
willing2
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Wed 07/22/09 03:03 PM
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And how long has BHO's Aunt been here illegally?
Talk about blatant selective enforcement of the Law. |
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And how long has BHO's Aunt been here illegally? Talk about blatant selective enforcement of the Law. I am not in favor on ANYONE who is in our country illegally. I really don't care who it is or where they are...they need to either get legal or leave, IMO. However, this entire situation would not have been picked up by the Feds at all. The FAA had approved the flight plan, obviously without regard to checking anything out... IF it had not been for the civil situation in Texas and the judge there contacting officials here...they would probably not have been noticed. It sounds like they had been sitting in Texas for quite some time...4 months, I think. Also, if they had been at a much bigger airport, they may have not been detained as the length of time for information to get communicated takes much longer... The Feds did not detain them until the local Sheriff's office took a look, which was ONLY done due to the civil case in Texas that was on going... so, really, it was not the intention to find people who were illegal at all, it just kind of happened... Why they choose the flight plan they did, I cannot understand...except I know that many of the flights that go to Ireland and England from the west fly over the area all the time due to taking the 'short cut' over the curve of the Earth... I do not think this was "selective" at all...it was really an "accident" so to say... The thing of it is, the FAA approved the flight plan! The Feds did not even check out to see if the foreign pilot had a visa to be here!!! |
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i have to agree. but no matter who they are. if the Ukraine people did not have a visa. they should be arrested. but that being said. they should catch and deport these Mexicans. our country is over run with illegals. seems like no one is doing a thing about these illegals.
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i have to agree. but no matter who they are. if the Ukraine people did not have a visa. they should be arrested. but that being said. they should catch and deport these Mexicans. our country is over run with illegals. seems like no one is doing a thing about these illegals. I hear you Mike! I think it is very important that we get tough on ANY illegals in our country. regardless of their national homeland! there are many people who are taking this into their own hands...many citizens of the US are doing what they can do. |
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i have to agree. but no matter who they are. if the Ukraine people did not have a visa. they should be arrested. but that being said. they should catch and deport these Mexicans. our country is over run with illegals. seems like no one is doing a thing about these illegals. I hear you Mike! I think it is very important that we get tough on ANY illegals in our country. regardless of their national homeland! there are many people who are taking this into their own hands...many citizens of the US are doing what they can do. Give you a hint on how likely real Immigration Enforcement will happen. Ever since BHO took office there has only been one workplace raid and they were ordered released. BHO himself is pro-open borders as well as the Head of Homeland Security. |
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And how long has BHO's Aunt been here illegally? Talk about blatant selective enforcement of the Law. I am not in favor on ANYONE who is in our country illegally. I really don't care who it is or where they are...they need to either get legal or leave, IMO. However, this entire situation would not have been picked up by the Feds at all. The FAA had approved the flight plan, obviously without regard to checking anything out... IF it had not been for the civil situation in Texas and the judge there contacting officials here...they would probably not have been noticed. It sounds like they had been sitting in Texas for quite some time...4 months, I think. Also, if they had been at a much bigger airport, they may have not been detained as the length of time for information to get communicated takes much longer... The Feds did not detain them until the local Sheriff's office took a look, which was ONLY done due to the civil case in Texas that was on going... so, really, it was not the intention to find people who were illegal at all, it just kind of happened... Why they choose the flight plan they did, I cannot understand...except I know that many of the flights that go to Ireland and England from the west fly over the area all the time due to taking the 'short cut' over the curve of the Earth... I do not think this was "selective" at all...it was really an "accident" so to say... The thing of it is, the FAA approved the flight plan! The Feds did not even check out to see if the foreign pilot had a visa to be here!!! Filing a flight plan involves calling it in and getting a clearance.... which anybody can do. The system is there to maintain order in the air, not to check your visa. |
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