Jesus taught against legalism, because it misses the point behind the
law. Legalism also results in a mindset of literalism. If someone says
"Christian soldier" the literal minded adds "Christian" + "soldier" and
assumes that the meaning is someone with a bible and a gun killing
non-believers and bombing abortion clinics. When someone says
"Remember, the Word is your sword", the literal minded assumes that
"sword" must be an exhortation of violence. While the truth is that
Christains are told to use the scriptures to cut through the lies,
deceit and misconceptions of this world using the scripture.

It's the fact that this world and the so-called spiritual minded people
are stuck in legalism and reject those things which are spiritual, that
bodes ill for Christians. Simple comments of faith are taken as
suggestions of violence.

Hating what Yahshua was The walking talking word as our example and to
call Yahshua a legalist. Is beyond comprehession because what you say
you have not a clue what it means. Miles

Milesoftheusa,

I am starting to think you have issues. I didn't say that Jesus taught
legalism, I said that He taught AGAINST legalism. You really should
read my posts before replying.

I don’t think people take the things you’ve mentioned to necessarily
imply violence.

But I think the words ‘soldier’ and ‘sword’ do imply being ‘pushy’ about
your faith.

I think there was somewhere in the Bible where Jesus also mentioned
something about wiping your feet and walking away from those who are not
interested in what you have to say.

I don’t believe that Jesus ever intended for people to be ‘pushing’ his
word onto others.

To me, this is the basic problem on these forums. I think most people
on here are more interested in exchanging views and not being “preached
at”.

If we wanted to be “preached at” we’d go to a church.

These forums just aren’t the right medium to be trying to use them as a
pulpit for pushing any specific religion onto people.

There are many people on these forums who have a wide range of beliefs
and they get along just fine because they don’t try to shove their views
down each other throats. (i.e. they don’t try to be soldiers of their
religions or use their words as swords)

Amazing I just read your post on "hello" and you call this group a
"cult" because they teach not to keep the law. Yea i know your answer.
But then you would fit in the same definition. miles

I read your posts but did you really read mine? What made the messiah
sinless? and he never spoke about not keeping the law he spoke of the
pharasees adding to it for thier own gain/power. Miles

Abracadabra
Yes in part you are right. But let me ask you a question? If you knew
your son or daughter was driving a car that had so many problems that
they could get in an accident and be killed? No you would warn them as
often as you could untill they understood and fixed the problem. As for
me that is what I am doing. Yet I do not want anyone to believe ma I
want them to open thier books and see what is really right or wrong.
Believing me they will fall away believing Yahweh for themselves then
they will obey him gladly with all thier heart realizing his mercy. We
have a vast amount of rescources today just see if what you believe is
true thats all i ask. miles

Milesoftheusa,

I haven't said someone shouldn't obey the Law. Have you read a single
thing that Jesus taught about the Sabbath? Have you? Stop posting and
actually read. Jesus allowed his followers to work on Sunday. The
Apostles, taught that the Sabbath was just the shadow of Jesus. The
apostles taught that Christians DON'T have to celebrate the Sabbath.
You need to read Romans 14 and quit this silly crusade you have about
all Christians having to celebrate the Sabbath. If you do, great for
you, but I don't and that doesn't make me less of a Christian.

Spider I said to you once that wicked things creep softly into the
practice of religion slithering in with slow silent movements so you see
it not nor do you hear it.

When you go forth with as a soldier with the sword you have stepped into
the role of the adversary.

Look up the word adversary and translate it into hebrew.

Is this who you wish to be a soldier for?

Be not the soldier but the brother. Put on the garmet of peace and hold
the light of faith so you may see your way.

For the word is peace. Faith and hope are its light and love the arm
that hold the lamp from which it shines.

it is sad Spider that your traditions are so ingrained in you that you
can not see your nose. This is the same as the pharasees. They saw him
as a threat even while john the baptists was still baptizing. A threat
to what? thier traditions that they have been teaching the people. Not
Yahweh's law. Yahshua showed them how they broke the law with how they
took care of thier parents. Finding profit instead of compassion. These
scriptures can you really deny they were teaching the law?
Acts 15:18-21
"Known to Yahweh from eternity are all His works. 19 Therefore I judge
that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning
to YHWH, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by
idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled , and from blood.
21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in
every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath."
NKJV
If they taught the law was done away why would they say to begin with
dietary laws. Then they should go to the JEWISH synagogues where Moshe
is teached every SABBATH. Did you read that. I just want you to prove
what you believe not make it up as you go. Shalom Miles

Milesoftheusa,

Read Romans 14. Read it a couple times. I'm not going to argue with
you, just read that chapter, okay?

I know what it says. I can understand the new because i practice the
old in the new way. You apparently do not believe what Acts just said
above and you won't. It is sad. But I believe i will just leave you
alone as long as your false doctrine doe not try to ensnare people like
a serpent in the wilderness.. Miles

Milesoftheusa,

You really need to read Romans 14. Seriously.

Why would you quote Jesus as the authority then turn to Paul as though
he is the word of god.

Romans is a letter to a sub church within the church. It is not the
Word of God.

It is the Word of Paul as it pertains to the Church in Rome.

I do not worship Paul.

I do not have time to explain that chapter to you so i am just going
to paste a article from a brother in the faith for your reading. Good
Night Miles

Romans 14: Who is the weak brother?

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Roma 14:1 (NKJV) Receive one who is weak in the faith, [but] not to
disputes over doubtful things.

Here we are told to receive one who is weak in the faith. For centuries,
mainstream Christianity has taught that this weak person is one who is
still hanging onto so called "ceremonial" commandments in the law of
Yahweh such as Sabbath observance and refraining from eating unclean
animals as outlined in the 15th chapter of Leviticus. If this were the
case, we would need to classify Peter (Kepha) as one who is 'weak in
faith'! When Yahweh gave him a vision in Acts chapter 10, Kepha said "I
have never eaten anything common or unclean." This was many years after
Yahushua's resurrection. So was Kepha weak in faith? I think not. Look
at Kepha here:

Acts 3:6 (NKJV) Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but
what I do have I give you: In the name of Yahushua the Messiah of
Nazareth, rise up and walk." 7 And he took him by the right hand and
lifted [him] up, and immediately his feet and ankle bones received
strength.

Hardly a man lacking faith! It was through faith that this man was
healed. (see verse 16).

Consider also Paul himself would have to be classified as 'weak in
faith' if this were the proper interpretation. For his custom was to
observe the Sabbath:

Acts 17:2 (NKJV) Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for
three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,

It can be shown that the disciples all kept the Sabbath 83 times in the
New Testament. Were they all weak in faith also? I think not!

I am convinced that what is being talked about in Romans 14 could not be
about the eating of pork and other unclean foods. I believe that the
situation in Rome has to do with meat offered to idols. However, this is
not evident just by looking at the first few verses of Romans. We must
read through the whole chapter before we really get an understanding of
what is being talked about here. So please have an open mind through
this study and toward the end I think you will begin to see why this is
evident. But before we get any furthur into Romans, let us examine the
situation in Corinth as a backdrop to our study:

1Cor 10:25 (NKJV) Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no
questions for conscience' sake; 26 for "the earth [is] Yahweh's, and all
its fullness."

The reasoning for Paul's stance is that all animals belong to Yahweh.
Truly the earth and all the animals that dwell therein does belong to
Yahweh. If we with a pure heart are eating an animal that Yahweh has not
forbidden us to eat then surely there is no sin in that. The problem was
that the believers in Corinth and also in Rome were surrounded by
paganism.

1Cor 10:27 If any of those who do not believe invites you [to] [dinner],
and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question
for conscience' sake.

This phrase 'eat what is set before you' is not a new one. Yahushua used
it when sending out the seventy:

Luke 10:8 (NKJV) "Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat
such things as are set before you. 9 "And heal the sick there, and say
to them, `The kingdom of Yahweh has come near to you.'

Continuing in 1 Corinthians:

1Cor 10:27 If any of those who do not believe invites you [to] [dinner],
and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question
for conscience' sake. 28 But if anyone says to you, "This was offered to
idols," do not eat it for the sake of the one who told you, and for
conscience' sake; for "the earth [is] Yahweh's, and all its fullness."
29 "Conscience," I say, not your own, but that of the other. For why is
my liberty judged by another [man]'s conscience?

How can this scripture ('the earth is Yahweh's and all its fullness') be
quoted to support both of these views? Because if one were to tell you
that this meat is from an animal sacrificed unto a false idol, by eating
it the person who told you this may think that you don't acknowledge
that the earth is Yahweh's and all its fullness. Rather they may think
that you believe the earth was not created by Yahweh. Knowing that all
things were created by Yahweh is the key to proving that all the idols
are worthless because Yahweh truly has made all things.

1Cor 10:30 But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for
[the] [food] over which I give thanks?

If we are giving thanks to Yahweh for our food, which He has created, we
are acknowledging it was He who has given us these things.

1Cor 10:31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do
all to the glory of Yahweh.

This is the whole point of what is being said to those in Corinth. Even
though they do not recognize that an idol is anything, we do not want to
eat anything that might cause Yahweh to be looked upon with a lesser
degree of glory. For truly the earth is Yahweh's! Let's look at another
place in 1 Corinthians where Paul originally introduced the subject:

1Cor 8:1 Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all
have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. 2 And if anyone
thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know.
3 But if anyone loves Yahweh, this one is known by Him. 4 Therefore
concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol
[is] nothing in the world, and that [there] [is] no other Elohim but
one. 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on
earth (as there are many gods and many masters), 6 yet for us [there]
[is] one Elohim, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we for Him;
and one Master Yahushua the Messiah, through whom [are] all things, and
through whom we [live]. 7 However, [there] [is] not in everyone that
knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat [it]
as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is
defiled.

So here is an example of a weak brother. This particular weak brother
can not help but to think of the idol as he eats the meat that might
have been sacrificed to an idol. He even eats it as a thing offered to
an idol. Other believers, who have attained more knowledge and faith,
understand that an idol is nothing. They eat with the knowledge that
Yahweh has created this food which He is receiving.

1Cor 8:8 But food does not commend us to Yahweh; for neither if we eat
are we the better, nor if we do not eat are we the worse. 9 But beware
lest somehow this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to those who
are weak. 10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an
idol's temple, will not the conscience of him who is weak be emboldened
to eat those things offered to idols? 11 And because of your knowledge
shall the weak brother perish, for whom the Messiah died?

Apparently there were some who were so bold about it, they would even go
into an idol's temple and eat the meat. This is flatly condemned here.

1Cor 8:12 But when you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their
weak conscience, you sin against the Messiah.

Yahushua said that what we do to the least of the brethren we do unto
Him.

1Cor 8:13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never
again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

So here we see an example of a weaker brother in the city of Corinth. I
am convinced that we have a similar situation in the city of Rome.
However, the believers in Rome are more knowledgeable about Yahweh than
those in Corinth. It is very obvious that those in Corinth had some
major sin to deal with.

1Cor 15:34 (NKJV) Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do
not have the knowledge of Yahweh. I speak [this] to your shame.

But those in Rome Paul said:

Roma 15:14 (NKJV) Now I myself am confident concerning you, my brethren,
that you also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also
to admonish one another.

By this, we could conclude that what we see in Rome is a more advanced
situation than the one in Corinth. Now lets get back to the situation in
Romans. Here is verse 1 again:

Roma 14:1 (NKJV) Receive one who is weak in the faith, [but] not to
disputes over doubtful things.

So again here in Romans we are dealing with a weak brother. This is much
like the situation in 1 Corinthians chapter 8. So we can see that in
both the Corinthian and Roman assemblies the common thread was dealing
with those who are weak. Let us now read through the whole chapter
before concluding anything. Part of the problem is that we are dealing
with something that both Paul and the Roman assembly are aware of but we
are left to figure out what it is. It is much like listening to one side
of a phone conversation. But keep in mind that this is among the
'doubtful things', so it must not be an issue of whether or not to obey
a commandment of Yahweh. So let's read on:

Roma 14:2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak
eats [only] vegetables.

Here is a very key verse. Clearly it is talking about vegetarianism. The
weak person is the one eating vegetables. The question is why is this
person considered weak?? Well, remember that we saw a similar situation
with a 'weak' brother in the Corinthian assembly. This persons faith was
hindered by his temptation to follow an idol. But this is a more
advanced situation in Rome. Brothers have taken more of a stance on both
sides of the issue.

Roma 14:3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not
him who does not eat judge him who eats; for Yahweh has received him. 4
Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or
falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for Yahweh is able to make him
stand.

Based on context of this chapter, I believe that what we see here is
that some would not eat meat at all for fear that it might have been
offered to an idol. Others believed that since an idol was nothing, they
would not ask any questions when buying meat. Keep in mind that in Rome
there were over 1 million people and 400 pagan temples in that city!
This is not unlike the Corinth with its many pagan temples and about a
half million people. So it seems that what is being said here is that
they should not judge one another based on this issue. The Roman
assembly apparently had a division on this. Those who did not ask
questions when eating the meat were condemned by those who refused to
eat anything (for fear it might have been offered to an idol.) This
passage refers to the latter as the 'one who is weak'. This is exactly
like what we saw in 1 Corinthians.

Roma 14:5 One person esteems [one] day above another; another esteems
every day [alike]. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who
observes the day, observes [it] to Yahweh; and he who does not observe
the day, to Yahweh he does not observe [it]. He who eats, eats to
Yahweh, for he gives Yahweh thanks; and he who does not eat, to Yahweh
he does not eat, and gives Yahweh thanks.

There are various theories on these 2 verses. One theory states that
this is talking about the Sabbath. There are several reasons why I
believe that this is not so. They are:

This stance does not agree with other scriptures that uphold the
Sabbath.
There is no mention of the Sabbath in this chapter.
It isn't man who makes the Sabbath day above all other days. It is
Yahweh who sanctified and blessed the 7th day at creation. We are just
commanded to keep holy what Yahweh has sanctified.
This chapter is about 'doubtful things'. Commandments of Yahweh are not
doubtful things, especially when Yahweh writes them with His own finger.
I believe that this passage is talking about which day that one should
fast. This does have support in the text because the scripture says:

Roma 14:6 He who observes the day, observes [it] to Yahweh; and he who
does not observe the day, to Yahweh he does not observe [it]. He who
eats, eats to Yahweh, for he gives Yahweh thanks; and he who does not
eat, to Yahweh he does not eat, and gives Yahweh thanks.

One of the traditions of the Pharisees in that day was to fast twice a
week:

Luke 18:11 (NKJV) "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself,
`Elohim, I thank You that I am not like other men--extortioners, unjust,
adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 `I fast twice a week; I
give tithes of all that I possess.'

Also Yahushua expected that His disciples would fast:

Luke 5:34 (NKJV) And He said to them, "Can you make the friends of the
bridegroom fast while the bridegroom is with them? 35 "But the days will
come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them; then they will
fast in those days."

So the context of this whole chapter proves out one common thread. The
whole chapter is talking about FOOD. Continuing on....

Roma 14:7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8
For if we live, we live to Yahweh; and if we die, we die to Yahweh.
Therefore, whether we live or die, we are Yahweh's. 9 For to this end
the Messiah died and rose and lived again, that He might be Master of
both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or
why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before
the judgment seat of the Messiah. 11 For it is written: []"As I live,
says Yahweh, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess
to Yahweh." 12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to
Yahweh. 13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather
resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in [our]
brother's way.

So Paul did not condemn those who would not eat the meat. He never
condemned them in 1 Corinthians either. If he had, it might have caused
that brother to stumble because those who had a consciousness of the
idol would eat it "as a thing offered to an idol" and their conscience,
being weak, would be defiled. Paul wanted those in Rome to keep this in
mind. What was condemned here was the attitude of the stronger brother
toward the weaker one.

Roma 14:14 I know and am convinced by the Master Yahushua that [there]
[is] nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be
unclean, to him [it] [is] unclean. 15 Yet if your brother is grieved
because of [your] food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not
destroy with your food the one for whom the Messiah died.

How selfish for a person to trouble another just because he knows that
an idol is nothing! But is food offered to an idol unclean? The common
teaching of the Jews in that day was a resounding 'yes'! According to
the Encyclopedia Judaica under the heading "Purity" it says:

"In the case of idolatrous offerings the law is even stricter [than the
impurity of the idol itself] and Judah b. Bava says that it conveys
impurity by overshadowing, as does a corpse"

The teachings on purity that were handed down to the Jews of this
generation went FAR beyond what the word of Yahweh ever taught. For an
example of this, let's look at a situation that Yahushua ran into:

Luke 11:37 (NKJV) And as He spoke, a certain Pharisee asked Him to dine
with him. So He went in and sat down to eat. 38 When the Pharisee saw
[it], he marveled that He had not first washed before dinner. 39 Then
the Master said to him, "Now you Pharisees make the outside of the cup
and dish clean, but your inward part is full of greed and wickedness. 40
"Foolish ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41
"But rather give alms of such things as you have; then indeed all things
are clean to you.

Yahushua did not adhere to the teachings handed down from Shammai and
Hillel that one must wash their hands before eating dinner. There is no
such commandment in the word of Yahweh. But to the Pharisees, the hand
washings were of utmost importance. They were quite particular not only
in when to wash their hands, but even how. There were ordinances that
you had to wash up to the third joint of the finger with a certain
measure of water, etc etc etc. They focused so much on what might cause
them to be impure, they forgot that Yahweh would rather have them focus
on what IS pure. Yahushua told them to 'give alms of such things as you
have; then indeed all things are clean to you.' In other words, let your
hearts and lives be full of compassion, and it will make you clean.
Purity comes from within! And so the scripture says:

Titus 1:15 (NKJV) To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are
defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and
conscience are defiled.

and again:

Jame 1:27 (NKJV) Pure and undefiled religion before Elohim and the
Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, [and] to
keep oneself unspotted from the world.

and again:

Phil 4:8 (NKJV) Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever
things [are] noble, whatever things [are] just, whatever things [are]
pure, whatever things [are] lovely, whatever things [are] of good
report, if [there] [is] any virtue and if [there] [is] anything
praiseworthy--meditate on these things.

So in the eyes of one who has a pure heart before Yahweh, there is no
such thing as another deity. We all know that Yahweh is the only Mighty
One. We all know that Yahweh has sanctified in His word the animals that
we can eat and does not forbid us to eat them. If one wants to offer
them to an idol, that is their business but we will give thanks to
Yahweh for providing food for us to eat! However, if what we do eat
would not bring honor to Yahweh but would harm our brother who is weak
in faith then surely that is not the will of Yahweh.

Roma 14:16 Therefore do not let your good be spoken of as evil; 17 for
the kingdom of Yahweh is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and
peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 For he who serves the Messiah in
these things [is] acceptable to Yahweh and approved by men. 19 Therefore
let us pursue the things [which] [make] for peace and the things by
which one may edify another. 20 Do not destroy the work of Yahweh for
the sake of food. All things indeed [are] pure, but [it] [is] evil for
the man who eats with offense.

Again the meat itself is pure whether it was offered to an idol or not,
it is not common or unclean. From the days of Noah up until now, Yahweh
has made man to know the difference between the clean and the unclean.
If the scripture states that the animal was clean, then it was clean!

Roma 14:21 [It] [is] good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor [do]
[anything] by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made
weak.

Now here is a very important verse. This is where Paul actually
clarifies that he is talking about meat offered to idols. It is hidden
from our eyes by translation but it is nonetheless there! Let's look at
the Greek word that is translated "meat" here...

BDB/Thayers # 2907 2907 kreas {kreh'-as} perhaps a primary word;; n n AV
- flesh 2; 2 1) (the) flesh (of a sacrificed animal)

In fact it is this same word that is used in

1Cor 8:13 (NKJV) Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will
never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

This is the only 2 places in the New Testament that it is used. In both
cases the context was concerning meat offered to idols! Notice that even
though it was obvious from reading the first and second verses of this
chapter that he was talking about meat, this is the first time that the
food that is spoken of here in Romans is classified as 'meat'. So this
certainly clarifies things.

Roma 14:22 Do you have faith? Have [it] to yourself before Yahweh. Happy
[is] he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. 23 But he who
doubts is condemned if he eats, because [he] [does] not [eat] from
faith; for whatever [is] not from faith is sin.

If you have any doubts about the earth being Yahweh's and the fullness
therein...and are tempted by the idol, then this person is condemned if
he eats. This is exactly what was taught in 1 Corinthians 8 and 10.
Therefore it seems very obvious to me that there are a lot of parallels
between what is said in Romans 14 and what is said in 1 Corinthians.
Based on these things I believe it is very safe to conclude that in both
cases Paul is talking about food offered to idols. Paul at no time
during this chapter considers 'liberty' a license to sin. Sin is
transgression of the law. If we eat things that Yahweh has commanded not
to be eaten, we are not keeping the commandment of Yahweh. Therefore we
are transgressing the law and are sinning. We should know what sin is!
Therefore it is sin to eat things that Yahweh has commanded us not to
eat!

We can't throw out the whole of scripture that teaches against sin
because of a one sided conversation in Romans! It can not be proven that
this chapter is speaking of unclean meats. But it can be proven that it
does not. There are many other passages that teach we should keep the
commandments. Here is one example in scripture that shows Yahweh's
concern for people who eat unclean animals:

Isai 66:17 (NKJV) "Those who sanctify themselves and purify themselves,
[To] [go] to the gardens After an [idol] in the midst, Eating swine's
flesh and the abomination and the mouse, Shall be consumed together,"
says Yahweh.

Please examine the context of this chapter. It is speaking of the end
times...this has not occurred yet. So yes, Yahweh is still concerned
that we do not eat things that are abominations to Him. There are a few
things in Yahweh's word that He considers to be an abomination. Eating
the flesh of animals that He did not create us to eat is one of them.



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Mathew

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets, I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily i say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
(heaven and earth still exist therefore the law is still in effect)

and Mathew 5:20
for I say unto you that except your righteousness shall exceed the
righteousness of the scribes and Pharisisees, ye shall in no case enter
into the kingdom of heaven.

Grace is not yet complete because there are still 5 prophesies to be
fulfilled. (from both Ezekial and Ishaia). Grace can not be complete
until the Son of Man come in all his glory and those five prophesies are
fulfilled.

Therefore we must still strive to abide by the law. For Christ himself
has said till all be fulfilled.

What god says BE... IS.
In his word you have answer yet your eyes pass it over for the sweet
bauble of salvation that is yet to come.

In heaven you will receive reward in just measure for the life you lived
in this life and God sees what no man sees. Even does he see into your
heart.

AdventureBegins,

Mark 9:1-7
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And Jesus was saying to them, "Truly I say to you, there are some of
those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the
kingdom of God after it has come with power." Six days later, Jesus took
with Him Peter and James and John, and brought them up on a high
mountain by themselves. And He was transfigured before them; and His
garments became radiant and exceedingly white, as no launderer on earth
can whiten them. Elijah appeared to them along with Moses; and they were
talking with Jesus. Peter said to Jesus, "Rabbi, it is good for us to be
here; let us make three tabernacles, one for You, and one for Moses, and
one for Elijah." For he did not know what to answer; for they became
terrified. Then a cloud formed, overshadowing them, and a voice came out
of the cloud, "This is My beloved Son, listen to Him!"
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ehhh?

What has that got to with what I quoted to you.

That was Him. You tell me that you have grace so you need not the law.
Yet for you to have grace you must follow his word. But you ignore a
part of it that does not fit your views. Once again I ask you to
translate the word adversary from english to hebrew.

His word was right up straight... Till all has been fullfilled.

The law will not pass away till all be fullfilled.

Not pass away.

Till all be fullfilled.

It is not finished. There still left a few things to happen TILL ALL BE
FULFILLED.

AdventureBegins,

"Grace can not be complete until the Son of Man come in all his glory
and those five prophesies are fulfilled."

See Mark 9:1-7.

I haven't said that Christians shouldn't obey the Law. I have said that
Christians are under Grace and that the Sabbath was a shadow of Christ.
I have also said that Christians shouldn't argue about deitary laws /
Sabbath. All of that I have provided scriptural support for.

Milesoftheusa,

Am I the one who is weak in faith? Maybe. Should you judge me for my
weakness? No. End of story.