Topic: All up in my face!!!!
Mr_Music's photo
Tue 09/15/09 06:13 AM

So are you refering to the people who obviously didnt take the time to read what they wrote, maybe using all caps, or not using any punctuation at all? Or are you refering to people who may mispell a word every now and again or maybe dont put in a comma where a period should be?


I am not referring to those people with legitimate, documented learning disabilities, nor am I referring to accidental typographical errors. We are ALL guilty of those. However, when they (words) cease being accidental typographical errors and repeatedly continue to be misspelled/misused/etc., the truth lies.

TxsGal3333's photo
Tue 09/15/09 06:15 AM
It really is sad the way some kids act and how they have no problem getting all up in your face. They have seemed to have lost total respect for those older then they are.

I just got back from a cruise with 22 family members and I must say for the most part all of the kids that went were very well mannered. They would not dare to talk back to adults that way. Then I have one nephew that will argue till the sun comes up with his mom about anything and he is 11. Actually I think his main problem is due to his mom tends to give in to him way to much what ever he wants and he knows this. For when he is alone with other adults he is good as gold.

Actually I think a lot of it stems from family's are not as close as they use to be years ago and don't have the closeness that they use to have and they tend to buy the kids everything they want to make up for that.....


bedlum1's photo
Tue 09/15/09 06:22 AM

Spare the rod...spoil the child? Or at least I think that's how it goes.
kids went down hill when people started interfering with the way parents raise their kids......the no spanking law,, dr phil,all the selfrighteous people that think they cant tell you the best way to raise and discipline your child then push their ways into law...when i was a kid my parents had no problem smacking my mouth for lying or cussing not to mention spanking my *** for acting up.. that how i learned not to talk back and respect my elders

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Tue 09/15/09 06:23 AM



I think it all comes down to the parents. If theres a lack of dicipline at home, the child doesnt learn how to respect his elders. Parents are afraid to punish their kids anymore. Or if they do...its some kind of bs timeout or something like that.


Not all the time, Sally. (:tongue: ) My daughter is bi-polar and was punished if she did something wrong (at my house anyway) but she couldn't help what she was doing when she was doing it. She knew it was wrong but was like a ball rolling downhill, she had to continue until she reached the bottom before she could get herself under control.



sorry Eileena but i seriously think "bi-polar" and "ADD" are just a dr's excuse for getting people on meds because i know when i was a kid "ADD" and "Bi-Polar" were not very common but since the whole "you can't bust a kids @$$" thing started,just about every kid gets diagnosed with "ADD" or "Bi-Polar"


of course maybe i'm the only one that has noticed this huh




I almost agree but I have to add a disclaimer that I dont think ADD and Bi Polar are completely bogus, I just think they are WAY overdiagnosed.

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Tue 09/15/09 08:29 AM
lets go back to the Bible,
Spare the rod, spoil the child

bedlum1's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:31 AM




I think it all comes down to the parents. If theres a lack of dicipline at home, the child doesnt learn how to respect his elders. Parents are afraid to punish their kids anymore. Or if they do...its some kind of bs timeout or something like that.


Not all the time, Sally. (:tongue: ) My daughter is bi-polar and was punished if she did something wrong (at my house anyway) but she couldn't help what she was doing when she was doing it. She knew it was wrong but was like a ball rolling downhill, she had to continue until she reached the bottom before she could get herself under control.



sorry Eileena but i seriously think "bi-polar" and "ADD" are just a dr's excuse for getting people on meds because i know when i was a kid "ADD" and "Bi-Polar" were not very common but since the whole "you can't bust a kids @$$" thing started,just about every kid gets diagnosed with "ADD" or "Bi-Polar"


of course maybe i'm the only one that has noticed this huh




I almost agree but I have to add a disclaimer that I dont think ADD and Bi Polar are completely bogus, I just think they are WAY overdiagnosed.
add and bi polar are real but alot of docs are quick to use people as Guinea pigs for the new flavor of the month prescription wis instead of addressing the real issues...its easier

earthytaurus76's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:33 AM

As some of you may/or may not know, I work in a school as part of a Behaviour Management team, a job which is very challenging but at the same time rewarding.Yesterday I received a "shout" on my radio requesting assistance to "recover" a child who had left lessons without permission, I made my way to the direction I was told he had run off into.As I approached him (and within 5 feet of him) I said "excuse me" the child in question turned around and in what seemed like a single leap he stood face to face with me, yelling "Lady, why are you all up in my face! Go on about your business and leave me the hell alone!"

Now this type of behaviour does not phase me in the slightest (I deal with this everyday and worse) with was remarkable was the height of this boy, he is a year seven child and yesterday was his sixth day of attendance at the school............. noway

My question is; what is happening to our youngsters? Why the lack of respect for school, and the lack lusture approach to learning?

After talking him (to death) I returned him back to his classroom.My daughter would say he was "trying it."
laugh laugh



noway My son would have called you worse. laugh

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:42 AM

I think it all comes down to the parents. If theres a lack of dicipline at home, the child doesnt learn how to respect his elders. Parents are afraid to punish their kids anymore. Or if they do...its some kind of bs timeout or something like that.


I have 3 grown sons...1 got in trouble 2 didn't... I raised them all the same..

Winx's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:44 AM



I think it all comes down to the parents. If theres a lack of dicipline at home, the child doesnt learn how to respect his elders. Parents are afraid to punish their kids anymore. Or if they do...its some kind of bs timeout or something like that.


Not all the time, Sally. (:tongue: ) My daughter is bi-polar and was punished if she did something wrong (at my house anyway) but she couldn't help what she was doing when she was doing it. She knew it was wrong but was like a ball rolling downhill, she had to continue until she reached the bottom before she could get herself under control.

sorry Eileena but i seriously think "bi-polar" and "ADD" are just a dr's excuse for getting people on meds because i know when i was a kid "ADD" and "Bi-Polar" were not very common but since the whole "you can't bust a kids @$$" thing started,just about every kid gets diagnosed with "ADD" or "Bi-Polar"


of course maybe i'm the only one that has noticed this huh


JT,

Bi-polar is a real mental illness. I've worked in the mental health field. I've seen 60 year old and older patients with this illness. It's not a thing that just got started. There are more people out there with it then you realize. Many are doing well with their medications and you wouldn't realize that they had it. I've seen them off of their meds. It's not a behavioral problem.

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Tue 09/15/09 08:46 AM


As some of you may/or may not know, I work in a school as part of a Behaviour Management team, a job which is very challenging but at the same time rewarding.Yesterday I received a "shout" on my radio requesting assistance to "recover" a child who had left lessons without permission, I made my way to the direction I was told he had run off into.As I approached him (and within 5 feet of him) I said "excuse me" the child in question turned around and in what seemed like a single leap he stood face to face with me, yelling "Lady, why are you all up in my face! Go on about your business and leave me the hell alone!"

Now this type of behaviour does not phase me in the slightest (I deal with this everyday and worse) with was remarkable was the height of this boy, he is a year seven child and yesterday was his sixth day of attendance at the school............. noway

My question is; what is happening to our youngsters? Why the lack of respect for school, and the lack lusture approach to learning?

After talking him (to death) I returned him back to his classroom.My daughter would say he was "trying it."
laugh laugh



noway My son would have called you worse. laugh


Believe me when I tell you I have been called worse. I have also had a child pull a knife on me (oh let me loose on them...........PLEASE!)

But; in these cases you have to approach the "problem" in a professional manner, so then we spend many man hours telling litte Johnny we do not like the habit/attitude he has allowed to attach itself to him and he should "lose his obnoxious friend" at the school gate.

There is also another culture I have noticed, the "responsible" adult in the school are weary of informing parents of a childs' bad behaviour for fear of the child being punished/mistreated at home..........

Winx's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:46 AM
Edited by Winx on Tue 09/15/09 08:49 AM


Spare the rod...spoil the child? Or at least I think that's how it goes.
kids went down hill when people started interfering with the way parents raise their kids......the no spanking law,, dr phil,all the selfrighteous people that think they cant tell you the best way to raise and discipline your child then push their ways into law...when i was a kid my parents had no problem smacking my mouth for lying or cussing not to mention spanking my *** for acting up.. that how i learned not to talk back and respect my elders


My child has never been spanked and my child is doing just great.
My child rarely talks back and respects their elders.



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Tue 09/15/09 08:50 AM



Spare the rod...spoil the child? Or at least I think that's how it goes.
kids went down hill when people started interfering with the way parents raise their kids......the no spanking law,, dr phil,all the selfrighteous people that think they cant tell you the best way to raise and discipline your child then push their ways into law...when i was a kid my parents had no problem smacking my mouth for lying or cussing not to mention spanking my *** for acting up.. that how i learned not to talk back and respect my elders


My child has never been spanked and my child is doing just great.
My child doesn't talk back and respects their elders.





Then you have a one in a million family.
this is most often NOT the case.


Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:52 AM
There are an awful lot of good kids out there

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:53 AM



Spare the rod...spoil the child? Or at least I think that's how it goes.
kids went down hill when people started interfering with the way parents raise their kids......the no spanking law,, dr phil,all the selfrighteous people that think they cant tell you the best way to raise and discipline your child then push their ways into law...when i was a kid my parents had no problem smacking my mouth for lying or cussing not to mention spanking my *** for acting up.. that how i learned not to talk back and respect my elders


My child has never been spanked and my child is doing just great.
My child rarely talks back and respects their elders.





Same here...

Winx's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:53 AM




Spare the rod...spoil the child? Or at least I think that's how it goes.
kids went down hill when people started interfering with the way parents raise their kids......the no spanking law,, dr phil,all the selfrighteous people that think they cant tell you the best way to raise and discipline your child then push their ways into law...when i was a kid my parents had no problem smacking my mouth for lying or cussing not to mention spanking my *** for acting up.. that how i learned not to talk back and respect my elders


My child has never been spanked and my child is doing just great.
My child rarely talks back and respects their elders.



Then you have a one in a million family.
this is most often NOT the case.


I don't think mine is one in a million.

I see my child's classmates. I go on field trips with them and more. Almost all of them are very well behaved and mannerly.


Winx's photo
Tue 09/15/09 08:54 AM




Spare the rod...spoil the child? Or at least I think that's how it goes.
kids went down hill when people started interfering with the way parents raise their kids......the no spanking law,, dr phil,all the selfrighteous people that think they cant tell you the best way to raise and discipline your child then push their ways into law...when i was a kid my parents had no problem smacking my mouth for lying or cussing not to mention spanking my *** for acting up.. that how i learned not to talk back and respect my elders


My child has never been spanked and my child is doing just great.
My child rarely talks back and respects their elders.



Same here...


happy flowerforyou

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Tue 09/15/09 08:56 AM
Edited by Moblodite on Tue 09/15/09 08:57 AM





Spare the rod...spoil the child? Or at least I think that's how it goes.
kids went down hill when people started interfering with the way parents raise their kids......the no spanking law,, dr phil,all the selfrighteous people that think they cant tell you the best way to raise and discipline your child then push their ways into law...when i was a kid my parents had no problem smacking my mouth for lying or cussing not to mention spanking my *** for acting up.. that how i learned not to talk back and respect my elders


My child has never been spanked and my child is doing just great.
My child rarely talks back and respects their elders.





Then you have a one in a million family.
this is most often NOT the case.


I don't think mine is one in a million.

I see my child's classmates. I go on field trips with them and more. Almost all of them are very well behaved and mannerly.


Thats what everyone said about Ted Bundylaugh

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Tue 09/15/09 08:57 AM
Edited by BonnyMiss on Tue 09/15/09 08:58 AM



My child has never been spanked and my child is doing just great.
My child doesn't talk back and respects their elders.





Spanking does not work as a method of correction for ALL children.As someone working closely with behaviour issues in children, I have to "gauge" each child as an individual (everyone should) I have been told NOT to approach certain children when they "blow-up" and I should just walk away and leave them to it, they will soon calm down and then I may approach them.

I am thankful to say I have never had to use this haphazard approach (unless I know for certain a child is statemented) then that becomes a different matter.I refuse to allow a child to slip through the net (I would not be true to my calling)On the whole I have had very good progress when dealing with children.

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Tue 09/15/09 09:12 AM
The majority of this is a result of the unwinding of the fabric of society and the unwillingness of people to take responsibility for themselves or their kids.

First, kids are no longer critical to the family unit. Until the last century, children played a critical role in the function and survival of the family. These roles and responsibilities gave them a sense of value. Today they generally don't get that, at least not in that manner. Good parents still maintain discipline and try to provide that sense of value, but many parents don't even do that.

These children grow up with a sense of entitlement..... that things should be given to them. They also somehow begin to think that their shortcomings are somebody else's fault. These kids become parents without the skills to provide any sense of value to their kids. And the cycle continues. And these same parents also refuse to support anyone that tries to provide discipline to their kids, claiming that their children are being treated unfairly or being singled out. And the children learn that they can disrespect their teachers, elders and peers without consequence.

And sadly, I don't see it getting better.

bedlum1's photo
Tue 09/15/09 09:40 AM
the worlds comming to an end in 2012 anyways just ask the Mayans ...loldrinker