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"I've got the breath of the last cigarette on my teeth..."
Love, what is it to you? To me it is the understanding that no matter the choice the one you love makes, you support it regardless. Which is why I don't think love exists, mainly because as human of a feeling as it could be we always have a tendency to want "better" for someone. Now I'm not talking about a person that simply doesn't take care of themselves, I'm talking more about personal decisions they make based on how they feel at the time. The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Which is another thing I may never understand about love as most people see it, why...why change the person you fell in love with? Turn them into someone that they don't want to be? All in the name of "better". Better for who? |
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If she wants to swan dive off the bridge so be it
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Very few people can live up to my brand of fierce loyalty...if you can't cut it...you haven't earned the love.
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What is love to me?
Accepting the person exactly as they are...warts and all...allowing them to be THEM...not a mini me clone of who I think I am... |
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That's a big one for me
Please don't try to change me from me To your version of me I will never attempt to change the you that you are I love you because of it! 
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Edited by
motowndowntown
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Tue 09/15/09 05:51 PM
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If you love somebody, you try to help them not make stupid decisions.
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I've never been in love so I wouldn't know. Sounds scary though, from what I've heard of it.
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I'm not out to change anyone for I'm not gonna change from whom I'm so why should they........????????????
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If you love somebody, you try to help them not make stupid decisions. Who decides the decision is stupid? You or them? |
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Ok , which question do you want me to answer?? I have a one question limit!
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Ok , which question do you want me to answer?? I have a one question limit! This question may not be for you then. |
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"I've got the breath of the last cigarette on my teeth..." Love, what is it to you? To me it is the understanding that no matter the choice the one you love makes, you support it regardless. Which is why I don't think love exists, mainly because as human of a feeling as it could be we always have a tendency to want "better" for someone. Now I'm not talking about a person that simply doesn't take care of themselves, I'm talking more about personal decisions they make based on how they feel at the time. The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Which is another thing I may never understand about love as most people see it, why...why change the person you fell in love with? Turn them into someone that they don't want to be? All in the name of "better". Better for who? The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Where did this idea come from? It is a very warped thought. Sorry. It is scary warped. And the statement that you would support whatever choice they make??? Where are these thoughts coming from? Were you taught to think this way? I don't mean to come down on you, but WTF??? 
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If you love somebody, you try to help them not make stupid decisions. Who decides the decision is stupid? You or them? If you're their parent you do. If you're their friend and you see they are headed for a train wreck you tell them it's probably not a good idea to drive around the gates. |
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"I've got the breath of the last cigarette on my teeth..." Love, what is it to you? To me it is the understanding that no matter the choice the one you love makes, you support it regardless. Which is why I don't think love exists, mainly because as human of a feeling as it could be we always have a tendency to want "better" for someone. Now I'm not talking about a person that simply doesn't take care of themselves, I'm talking more about personal decisions they make based on how they feel at the time. The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Which is another thing I may never understand about love as most people see it, why...why change the person you fell in love with? Turn them into someone that they don't want to be? All in the name of "better". Better for who? The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Where did this idea come from? It is a very warped thought. Sorry. It is scary warped. And the statement that you would support whatever choice they make??? Where are these thoughts coming from? Were you taught to think this way? I don't mean to come down on you, but WTF??? Why? I taught myself to think this way, sorry I don't follow your fairy tale white road to a big castle...love. Love is about freedom, not imprisonment, who puts who in a power position to dictate what is right and wrong? If the person I love wanted to leave, I would let them because I love them and respect their decision. Same goes if they wanted to take their own life, if that is truly what they wanted to do...I hardly think anything anyone says against it is going to suddenly change their mind. You don't have to like the outcome or enjoy the decision, but the least you can do since you love them is support it. |
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If you love somebody, you try to help them not make stupid decisions. Who decides the decision is stupid? You or them? If you're their parent you do. If you're their friend and you see they are headed for a train wreck you tell them it's probably not a good idea to drive around the gates. But you are making the decision stupid, not them. I can see the parent direction, but the question isn't based around parenting. I'm talking about lovers, passionate or whatever you may call it. What or who dictates a decision as stupid? The action came from a thought and I feel it should be respected. Which is just further proving that love doesn't really exist, as it cannot...one person is always impeding their will upon the other. |
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"I've got the breath of the last cigarette on my teeth..." Love, what is it to you? To me it is the understanding that no matter the choice the one you love makes, you support it regardless. Which is why I don't think love exists, mainly because as human of a feeling as it could be we always have a tendency to want "better" for someone. Now I'm not talking about a person that simply doesn't take care of themselves, I'm talking more about personal decisions they make based on how they feel at the time. The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Which is another thing I may never understand about love as most people see it, why...why change the person you fell in love with? Turn them into someone that they don't want to be? All in the name of "better". Better for who? The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Where did this idea come from? It is a very warped thought. Sorry. It is scary warped. And the statement that you would support whatever choice they make??? Where are these thoughts coming from? Were you taught to think this way? I don't mean to come down on you, but WTF??? Why? I taught myself to think this way, sorry I don't follow your fairy tale white road to a big castle...love. Love is about freedom, not imprisonment, who puts who in a power position to dictate what is right and wrong? If the person I love wanted to leave, I would let them because I love them and respect their decision. Same goes if they wanted to take their own life, if that is truly what they wanted to do...I hardly think anything anyone says against it is going to suddenly change their mind. You don't have to like the outcome or enjoy the decision, but the least you can do since you love them is support it. I don't subscribe to the whole "white picket fence" fairy tale, but I do have compassion for humanity. Love is also about compromise, understanding, partnership, and support. Standing by and doing nothing when someone talks about committing suicide is criminal! This has nothing at all to do with love, this has to do with taking an understanding of a word and bringing it to an extreme. Things in life are not black and white, they are various shades of gray. Nothing is absolute. Love is at a deeper level, but it does not involve sitting idly by while someone is jumping off a bridge. This is just common sense. |
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I don't equate changing someone as the same thing as trying to prevent them from suicide...the two thoughts don't even come together in the same spot anywhere in my head..
 We can all say we won't change for someone, but to a certain degree I think we all do every time we get involved with someone, either consciously or unconsciously. As far as suicide, I would do whatever was within my power to stop someone. From my work, I know most often than not, this is an impulsive act of someone who most often is off their meds, crazy drunk on booze and drugs, or half out of their minds with despair or grief and would otherwise not consider suicide. Again, most often than not, when their thoughts are more coherent, and they get some help with treatment/meds, they regret the act. |
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If you love somebody, you try to help them not make stupid decisions. Who decides the decision is stupid? You or them? If you're their parent you do. If you're their friend and you see they are headed for a train wreck you tell them it's probably not a good idea to drive around the gates. But you are making the decision stupid, not them. I can see the parent direction, but the question isn't based around parenting. I'm talking about lovers, passionate or whatever you may call it. What or who dictates a decision as stupid? The action came from a thought and I feel it should be respected. Which is just further proving that love doesn't really exist, as it cannot...one person is always impeding their will upon the other. If you're lovers you give somebody your opinion and let them make their own decision. If he or she loves you back they will respect your opinion and give it a lot of weight. In love one person is not ALWAYS exerting their will on somebody else, it's a cooperative. |
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"I've got the breath of the last cigarette on my teeth..." Love, what is it to you? To me it is the understanding that no matter the choice the one you love makes, you support it regardless. Which is why I don't think love exists, mainly because as human of a feeling as it could be we always have a tendency to want "better" for someone. Now I'm not talking about a person that simply doesn't take care of themselves, I'm talking more about personal decisions they make based on how they feel at the time. The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Which is another thing I may never understand about love as most people see it, why...why change the person you fell in love with? Turn them into someone that they don't want to be? All in the name of "better". Better for who? The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Where did this idea come from? It is a very warped thought. Sorry. It is scary warped. And the statement that you would support whatever choice they make??? Where are these thoughts coming from? Were you taught to think this way? I don't mean to come down on you, but WTF??? Why? I taught myself to think this way, sorry I don't follow your fairy tale white road to a big castle...love. Love is about freedom, not imprisonment, who puts who in a power position to dictate what is right and wrong? If the person I love wanted to leave, I would let them because I love them and respect their decision. Same goes if they wanted to take their own life, if that is truly what they wanted to do...I hardly think anything anyone says against it is going to suddenly change their mind. You don't have to like the outcome or enjoy the decision, but the least you can do since you love them is support it. I don't subscribe to the whole "white picket fence" fairy tale, but I do have compassion for humanity. Love is also about compromise, understanding, partnership, and support. Standing by and doing nothing when someone talks about committing suicide is criminal! This has nothing at all to do with love, this has to do with taking an understanding of a word and bringing it to an extreme. Things in life are not black and white, they are various shades of gray. Nothing is absolute. Love is at a deeper level, but it does not involve sitting idly by while someone is jumping off a bridge. This is just common sense. And when the attempt to save them fails, then what? I'm not saying sit idly by while they do it, but if they are adamant about it. Adamant is the key word here. I never said do nothing, but when something fails are you going to quit supporting them? |
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"I've got the breath of the last cigarette on my teeth..." Love, what is it to you? To me it is the understanding that no matter the choice the one you love makes, you support it regardless. Which is why I don't think love exists, mainly because as human of a feeling as it could be we always have a tendency to want "better" for someone. Now I'm not talking about a person that simply doesn't take care of themselves, I'm talking more about personal decisions they make based on how they feel at the time. The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Which is another thing I may never understand about love as most people see it, why...why change the person you fell in love with? Turn them into someone that they don't want to be? All in the name of "better". Better for who? The one thing I can come up with is suicide, no one wants someone to take their life...but someone that loves someone won't try to stop them from making the decision. Where did this idea come from? It is a very warped thought. Sorry. It is scary warped. And the statement that you would support whatever choice they make??? Where are these thoughts coming from? Were you taught to think this way? I don't mean to come down on you, but WTF??? Thank you--stated just right!! 
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