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Topic: No, not CZars again....
TJN's photo
Fri 09/18/09 06:52 PM






drinker Obama is going to appoint me to be the czar of dating sitesdrinker


How come Bush didn't appoint you? He already had too many? LOL

I thought Obama was for change?
What is he changing? Trying to have more czars than Bush?


There aren't any czars here in America anyway so not a valid question.

Hussein calls then czars. Where'd he pick up that term from, Bush?


No he doesn't.

Aahh is that the change he is talking about? Calling them something different?

Dragoness's photo
Fri 09/18/09 07:01 PM







drinker Obama is going to appoint me to be the czar of dating sitesdrinker


How come Bush didn't appoint you? He already had too many? LOL

I thought Obama was for change?
What is he changing? Trying to have more czars than Bush?


There aren't any czars here in America anyway so not a valid question.

Hussein calls then czars. Where'd he pick up that term from, Bush?


No he doesn't.

Aahh is that the change he is talking about? Calling them something different?


Very funny....not. slaphead

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Fri 09/18/09 07:06 PM






drinker Obama is going to appoint me to be the czar of dating sitesdrinker


How come Bush didn't appoint you? He already had too many? LOL

I thought Obama was for change?
What is he changing? Trying to have more czars than Bush?


There aren't any czars here in America anyway so not a valid question.

Hussein calls then czars. Where'd he pick up that term from, Bush?


No he doesn't.
Dont look into her eyes!!!!! She'll cast a spell on you!!! She has a degree in advanced liberal science. The US government has always looked for ways of gaining more power over the people. Czars are all the rage now. Remember those propaganda movies from back in the day. "In the almost definite(probably gonna happen anytime now)event of a nuclear bomb being dropped on your town put your head between your legs and say the pledge of alliegence." LOL:banana:

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Fri 09/18/09 07:15 PM







drinker Obama is going to appoint me to be the czar of dating sitesdrinker


How come Bush didn't appoint you? He already had too many? LOL

I thought Obama was for change?
What is he changing? Trying to have more czars than Bush?


There aren't any czars here in America anyway so not a valid question.

Hussein calls then czars. Where'd he pick up that term from, Bush?


No he doesn't.
Dont look into her eyes!!!!! She'll cast a spell on you!!! She has a degree in advanced liberal science. The US government has always looked for ways of gaining more power over the people. Czars are all the rage now. Remember those propaganda movies from back in the day. "In the almost definite(probably gonna happen anytime now)event of a nuclear bomb being dropped on your town put your head between your legs and say the pledge of alliegence." LOL:banana:


Not me you should fear, it is the garbage that passes as truth within the ranks of the right wing news organizations.

We do not have czars here in this country.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 09/18/09 08:25 PM
laugh Uh its just a term of speech.laughThere was only one Czar at a time in Russia and it means King or Emperor.bigsmile

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 09/18/09 08:26 PM
bigsmile The original Czar was overthrown by communists so does that mean that people that want to overthrow Obama czars are communists too?:tongue:

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Fri 09/18/09 08:27 PM







drinker Obama is going to appoint me to be the czar of dating sitesdrinker


How come Bush didn't appoint you? He already had too many? LOL

I thought Obama was for change?
What is he changing? Trying to have more czars than Bush?


There aren't any czars here in America anyway so not a valid question.

Hussein calls then czars. Where'd he pick up that term from, Bush?


No he doesn't.
Dont look into her eyes!!!!! She'll cast a spell on you!!! She has a degree in advanced liberal science. The US government has always looked for ways of gaining more power over the people. Czars are all the rage now. Remember those propaganda movies from back in the day. "In the almost definite(probably gonna happen anytime now)event of a nuclear bomb being dropped on your town put your head between your legs and say the pledge of alliegence." LOL:banana:


just go here and you'll believe


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Fri 09/18/09 08:34 PM

I know this, The MMS (main stream media), opposes any one or any thing that goes against what they are trying to brainwash you to believe. Now almost all of the MMS Is owned by 'Big Daddy'; so now they know that they can do whatever they want and cover it up very easily. You know, it's very funny that only 1 televised media source uncovered the ACORN scandal. Huuummmmm:) Kind of makes ones thinking gears start turning:)


Oh, you must be one of those that likes Fox News.

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Fri 09/18/09 08:37 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Fri 09/18/09 08:38 PM


I know this, The MMS (main stream media), opposes any one or any thing that goes against what they are trying to brainwash you to believe. Now almost all of the MMS Is owned by 'Big Daddy'; so now they know that they can do whatever they want and cover it up very easily. You know, it's very funny that only 1 televised media source uncovered the ACORN scandal. Huuummmmm:) Kind of makes ones thinking gears start turning:)


Oh, you must be one of those that likes Fox News.


I used to like Fox news. they do have a pretty good actual news team

but they got to where every single thing that happened in the news had to have a liberal and a conservative to analyze it. and it always devolved into a shouting match to drown the other out so I quit watching their news

I do dig Shepherd Smith though. he is funny

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Fri 09/18/09 08:41 PM



I know this, The MMS (main stream media), opposes any one or any thing that goes against what they are trying to brainwash you to believe. Now almost all of the MMS Is owned by 'Big Daddy'; so now they know that they can do whatever they want and cover it up very easily. You know, it's very funny that only 1 televised media source uncovered the ACORN scandal. Huuummmmm:) Kind of makes ones thinking gears start turning:)


Oh, you must be one of those that likes Fox News.


I used to like Fox news. they do have a pretty good actual news team

but they got to where every single thing that happened in the news had to have a liberal and a conservative to analyze it. and it always devolved into a shouting match to drown the other out so I quit watching their news

I do dig Shepherd Smith though. he is funny

Shephers Smith is prolly one of the few closest to center news personalities out there.drinker

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Fri 09/18/09 08:43 PM
Monday, Sept. 14, 2009 14:16 EDT
Going czar crazy
Lately, conservatives haven't shown much of a knack for the facts. The healthcare reform debate has been marred by bogus accusations of death panels and the myth that reform will include a government mandate that taxpayers foot the bill for abortions. Now, some Republicans are extending that same treatment to the personnel decisions in President Obama's administration.

On Sunday in the Washington Post, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, wrote a column warning of the number of informal policy "czars" employed by the White House. Hutchison asserted:

A few of them have formal titles, but most are simply known as "czars." They hold unknown levels of power over broad swaths of policy. Under the Obama administration, we have an unprecedented 32 czar posts (a few of which it has yet to fill), including a "car czar," a "pay czar" and an "information czar." There are also czars assigned to some of the broadest and most consequential topics in policy, including health care, terrorism, economics and key geographic regions.

The Op-Ed has generated a great deal of backlash from liberals -- and justifiably so. Hutchison's use of the word "unprecedented" is completely misleading. The Bush administration employed numerous czars, and yet Hutchison makes no mention of this fact in her piece. Additionally, as Amanda Terkel points out at Think Progress, all of the so-called czars in Obama's administration actually have formal titles; Obama has only referred to one member of his administration as a czar. It's right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity who are actually invoking the term.

And there may be a reason. The right has seized on the term "czars" so aggressively that it's hard not to read it as an attempt to play up allegations that Obama is some kind of communist. In July, Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va. wrote his own piece in the Post, alleging that Obama was creating a "virtual army of 'czars,'" adding, "At last count, there were at least 32 active czars that we knew of, meaning the current administration has more czars than Imperial Russia."

"Russia" is the word that gives away the strategy. After all, they were all commies over there! But the use of the term in this way must be baffling to anyone with even a basic familiarity with high-school world history. Russia's czars were in no way communist. They were actually overthrown during the Bolshevik Revolution, which led to the eventual formation of the Soviet Union. Russian czars assumed the throne through a hereditary monarchy and ruled with an iron fist; Obama's czars get appointed by the White House and have no direct authority over anything the federal government does (Cabinet officials, not the czars, are in charge of how to implement policy). The thinking from Republicans here seems to be that equating any Russian word with Obama is enough to prove he's a secret communist.

Hutchison is in a tough fight with incumbent Rick Perry for the Republican nomination for governor of Texas. So her piece seems like a blatant attempt to appeal to the same voters in the state who liked Perry's suggestion that Texas could secede from the United States -- i.e., the hardcore right-wing base.

But that shouldn't excuse the unfounded claims in Hutchison's piece, nor as Matt Yglesias observes, the Post's decision to print it. Yglesias writes:

The article in question manages to not so much as mention that all of our recent presidents have employed “czars.” I find it completely impossible to believe that Washington Post editors are unaware that George W. Bush employed “czars.” I find it completely impossible to believe that Washington Post editos [sic] have completely forgotten the administration of a man who was still president as recently as nine months ago. And I find it completely impossible to believe Washington Post editors don’t grasp the relevance of this fact to assessing the credibility of Hutchison’s complaint. Her use of phrases such as “unprecedented” to describe Obama’s czar-related conduct, combined with the total lack of context, is transparently designed to mislead the audience. And the Washington Post decided to print it!

[ur=http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/09/14/czars/index.html]Article here

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 09/18/09 08:43 PM

bigsmile The original Czar was overthrown by communists so does that mean that people that want to overthrow Obama czars are communists too?:tongue:

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Fri 09/18/09 08:44 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Fri 09/18/09 08:45 PM

laugh Uh its just a term of speech.laughThere was only one Czar at a time in Russia and it means King or Emperor:smile:The last Czar Romanov was overthrown by the communists in a revolution.:smile:

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Fri 09/18/09 08:46 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Fri 09/18/09 08:46 PM




I know this, The MMS (main stream media), opposes any one or any thing that goes against what they are trying to brainwash you to believe. Now almost all of the MMS Is owned by 'Big Daddy'; so now they know that they can do whatever they want and cover it up very easily. You know, it's very funny that only 1 televised media source uncovered the ACORN scandal. Huuummmmm:) Kind of makes ones thinking gears start turning:)


Oh, you must be one of those that likes Fox News.


I used to like Fox news. they do have a pretty good actual news team

but they got to where every single thing that happened in the news had to have a liberal and a conservative to analyze it. and it always devolved into a shouting match to drown the other out so I quit watching their news

I do dig Shepherd Smith though. he is funny

Shephers Smith is prolly one of the few closest to center news personalities out there.drinker


do you remember during Katrina, the fit he was throwin on air cause ot the people stranded on the over pass that werent getting rescued for days at a time. He threw this really cool temper tantrum, saying it was "unacceptable for this kind of a response to people suffering" on the air

those people were then rescued withi six hours

good job shep

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