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Topic: Snooping/online relationships
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Wed 09/23/09 09:22 AM


I had a friend who read her bf's emails and snooped through his cell phone, because she was jealous of him talking to a female co worker "more than he talked to her," disregarding the fact that the co-worker was local and he and she lived almost 2 hours apart.

So she found emails and texts from them to each other, nothing sexual, just friendly type stuff. She never mentioned it, but she became a real b!tch about it, and eventually he dumped her, not for the girl she was jealous of, but for someone who didn't invade his privacy. I'm not sure how he found out, but I guess he did, and I can't blame him for leaving her.


That is an example of a problem that I didn't account for: plain old insecurity, which lead to jealousy, over basically nothing.

Not sure if there is any getting around that.


Well, he broke up with her, so he doesn't have to deal with it anymore. That's one way to get around it, LOL

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Wed 09/23/09 09:25 AM


Well, he broke up with her, so he doesn't have to deal with it anymore. That's one way to get around it, LOL


Yeah, probably the ONLY effective way.laugh

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Wed 09/23/09 11:34 AM
What has worked for me is when I am in a relationship his business is his business and my business is my business. Sure I will go online and see if he has some kind of dangerouse background that I need to know about for saftey reasons. But not to snoop who his friends are. I think some things you just have to give time to reveal. Someone who is really into you will be wanting you to share his friendships. But since I don't do Friends With Benifits I don't fear infidelity at that stage of the game. I have also learned, as so many other victims of identity theft it is a very good way for someone to rip you off in a major way if you leave certain information accessible. People get to know you well at all it is pretty easy to guess passcodes.

It is and oldfashioned concept but the belief in engagement (Wedding date set and ring on the finger) is when I start to become a couple. Maybe open a joint account to cover wedding and dating expenses but not entirely shareing access to seperate accounts wheather money or email. To me this is the time you start making things pretty much and open book. Out of respect for my partner there might actually be a "trimming of the sails" where the single gals I "party with" or male pals tend to get distanced or dropped. This is when I think friends and especially opposite sex friendships that are emotionally intimate tend to be weaned off. I think it is essential for a healthy couple to evolve.

I have never been one for deeply personal emotionally intimate relationships. Probably because I hear so much professionally that it starts to feel like work. My mate has always been the one best friend so I have not seen the need to be so intimate with anther. I would see it as a betrayal so wouldn't do it or see the need for it. You can bet if I have a personal intimate relationship I am not going to have the time or desire to hang out on line.

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Wed 09/23/09 11:36 AM

This is long but interesting, wondering other's thoughts on the various issues brought up.

Why you should snoop on your spouse online
Sex therapist Ian Kerner says it might be painful, but it’s better to know
By Ian Kerner, Ph.D.
Sex therapist and relationship counselor
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 3:38 p.m. ET, Thurs., Sept . 17, 2009
After writing a column last month on the subject of Facebook and why you should unfriend your spouse, I received no shortage of e-mails — many of which were from people who vehemently disagreed with me — and so I thought it would be worthwhile to address the subject of Internet infidelity in greater depth.

While I was trying to make the point that too much familiarity can be bad for a relationship, and that social networking sites like Facebook sometimes bring a degree of proximity (and banality) into relationships that works against the sense of mystery we also need to cultivate, many thought I was saying that Internet infidelity is not a real threat and that we should turn a blind eye to our partner’s digital wanderings.

Quite the contrary, I think that Internet infidelity is one of the biggest issues that couples face today, and with digital technology increasingly playing a role in divorce, we have to be all the more vigilant. The Internet is still a relatively new technology and there isn’t a clear relationship rule book on how to use it. In many situations, snooping isn’t a pleasant choice, but it’s the right choice.

Is emotional infidelity worse than sex?
Like cell phones and hotel rooms, the Internet is a facilitator of infidelity, rather than a direct cause of it, but it’s increasingly a catalyst for a particularly pernicious strain of cheating: emotional infidelity.

Emotional infidelity often takes the form of a flirty friendship with someone of the opposite sex, in which many of the characteristics of a sexual relationship are present, but without the sex. At least, for the moment. According to the late Shirley Glass, whose book “Not Just Friends” still remains the classic treatise on the subject: “Emotional affairs are characterized by secrecy, emotional intimacy and sexual chemistry. Emotional affairs can be more threatening than brief sexual flings.”

Glass also implores us to “maintain appropriate walls and windows. Keep the windows open at home. Put up privacy walls with others who could threaten your marriage.” But with the threat of the Internet, it’s not just windows and walls we need to worry about, it’s also leaks and seals. The No. 1 danger of Internet infidelity is not that it could lead to actual sexual infidelity, but that it so easily diverts precious emotional resources away from one’s core relationship. With its quick hits of newness and novelty, the Internet enables us to easily tune out and turn off to our partners, when we should be making an effort to tune in and turn on.

So back to the question, what do you do when your gut is telling you that’s something wrong? Should you snoop? I personally believe that in a committed relationship there should be nothing to hide. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t respect your partner’s privacy, but I think that that respect first and foremost demands a foundation of trust. As an example, I have one password for all of my various e-mail accounts and my wife knows what it is. Does she ever use it? I doubt it, but she’s welcome to sift through my e-mails anytime she likes. That’s what trust is all about: having nothing to hide and being able to respect each other’s privacy. One can’t exist without the other.

To snoop or not to snoop?
But what about when trust is not a given in your relationship, and you’re worried that your partner might be engaging in behaviors that you’d consider inappropriate?

Before you snoop or dig around, ask yourself a few questions:

Does your spouse spend way too much time on the computer and other digital devices such as a cell phone or smart phone? Is he/she secretive about it? For example, is your spouse comfortable leaving his/her Facebook page or e-mail open when not at the computer?


Is your spouse in touch with former flames or members of the opposite sex via a social networking site such as Facebook? If so, does it make you uncomfortable? Do you feel like you don’t know what’s going on, that these “friendships” aren’t out in the open?


Does your partner call you paranoid when you bring up the subject and insist on his/her right to privacy?


Is your spouse a flirt when you’re out in public?


Has your sex life changed as of late (as in you’re having less of it)?


Does your partner criticize or joke at your expense when you’re out in public or make negative comments about your relationship to others?


Is your gut telling you that something’s wrong?

Depending upon how you answered these questions, it might be time to snoop, especially if you’ve tried to talk about your concerns with your partner but have been stonewalled. Hopefully there will be nothing to discover and you’ll be able to breathe more easily and more coolly examine why you had suspicions and where you might be able to improve your relationship.

But it’s also possible that you could find something that bothers you, but doesn’t bother your spouse. Emotional infidelity is murky territory. A 2008 study in the Journal of Marital and Family Therapy explored how men and women perceive online and offline sexual and emotional infidelity. The results showed that men felt sexual infidelity was more upsetting and women felt emotional infidelity was more upsetting.

That means that there’s lots of room for disagreement on this subject of emotional infidelity and that many men do not think a flirtatious friendship constitutes cheating. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t an issue. Just because your spouse isn’t interested in taking a flirtatious friendship to the next level doesn’t mean the other party feels the same way, and he may not even realize he’s down the path of emotional infidelity.

Nobody likes to be snooped on, but nobody likes to snoop either. Neither position has the moral high ground, and ultimately a loving couple can make themselves stronger and better through a meaningful dialogue around these issues. This could be the opportunity to establish definitions and set boundaries that you both agree on.

And what if you find something that really bothers you, like a seriously flirtatious friendship or proof of sexual infidelity?

It’s painful, but better to know than not, in my opinion. Be glad that you snooped

:smile: Its probably a good idea:smile:

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Wed 09/23/09 11:39 AM

I had a friend who read her bf's emails and snooped through his cell phone, because she was jealous of him talking to a female co worker "more than he talked to her," disregarding the fact that the co-worker was local and he and she lived almost 2 hours apart.



I'm not agreeing with what your friend did. But, I wonder if the relationship he had with his co-worker could be construed as one of those emotional infidelity relationships? I have friends who joke about having work husbands/wives. While they are just close friends (that I'm aware of), there is a level of intimacy there that, IMO, should be shared with their SO and no one else. While I think your friend was wrong, I wonder if there was something to her suspicions?


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Wed 09/23/09 11:50 AM


I had a friend who read her bf's emails and snooped through his cell phone, because she was jealous of him talking to a female co worker "more than he talked to her," disregarding the fact that the co-worker was local and he and she lived almost 2 hours apart.



I'm not agreeing with what your friend did. But, I wonder if the relationship he had with his co-worker could be construed as one of those emotional infidelity relationships? I have friends who joke about having work husbands/wives. While they are just close friends (that I'm aware of), there is a level of intimacy there that, IMO, should be shared with their SO and no one else. While I think your friend was wrong, I wonder if there was something to her suspicions?




Well, like I said, they were just friends, the co-worker was even married and pregnant, so I seriously doubt if he was interested in her sexually anyway. This woman, my friend, is just a very jealous, immature, suspicious person, and it's sad that she let her insecurities drive away someone she claimed to love very much, just to satisfy her unwarranted suspicions.

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Wed 09/23/09 11:51 AM
The way I see it if you do not have trust within your partner you have nothing. As far as just snooping with no reason to do so that is so wrong....

As long as the person your with you trust them and they have not given you any reason not to trust them you should not try to find things. No matter how much you trust them it gives one no reason to snoop every nook and corner of their lives.. Some things are best left in the past if it is not effecting the relationship.

I would bet that 9 times out of 10 if you have a gut feeling your other half is doing something shady most likely it is true.

Now if they do something that breaks that trust as and excample if you find tell tale signs they are cheating ect... then the way I see it follow your gut and find out other wise one should not just snoop to be snooping.....noway

Jealousy in a relationship will destroy it one must learn to trust the ones they are with until they give them a reason not too...bigsmile

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Wed 09/23/09 11:54 AM

The way I see it if you do not have trust within your partner you have nothing. As far as just snooping with no reason to do so that is so wrong....

As long as the person your with you trust them and they have not given you any reason not to trust them you should not try to find things. No matter how much you trust them it gives one no reason to snoop every nook and corner of their lives.. Some things are best left in the past if it is not effecting the relationship.

I would bet that 9 times out of 10 if you have a gut feeling your other half is doing something shady most likely it is true.

Now if they do something that breaks that trust as and excample if you find tell tale signs they are cheating ect... then the way I see it follow your gut and find out other wise one should not just snoop to be snooping.....noway

Jealousy in a relationship will destroy it one must learn to trust the ones they are with until they give them a reason not too...bigsmile


Exactly. Like the friend I mentioned earlier, she's recently divorced, and hubby cheated, so I guess now she expects all guys to cheat on her, and she's jealous if they have female friends. Bad way to be when you're trying to date someone...

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Wed 09/23/09 12:06 PM
Edited by TxsGal3333 on Wed 09/23/09 12:09 PM
So true just because one does it does not mean the next will. But if you keep accusing them they will finally say well hell if I'm being accused of it I might as well.

You have to learn to give each one that trust in the beginning or it will never work...noway

But I will be the first to admit when I give that trust out and you break that trust then it is all balls to the wall for I will find the evidence I'm looking for and when I do you will know it. I don't just blindly accuse anyone of doing something I will have the proof in front of me for you to see when I do..... and believe me I'm good at it too.bigsmile

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