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I really like pickles. I think that makes me strong.
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I really like pickles. I think that makes me strong. Good Lord. What do you do with those pickles? |
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I'd like to find a good strong woman to help me move some furniture, and pull the engine out of my car. I could rebuild the engine. What do people really define as a strong woman...how about one that has raised a child on her own, no child support, no help from the "father", how about one that in doing so also put herself through college, and oh yeah, took care of her mother for the last 11 years of her life, then oh yeah had to help her son recover from an automobile accident that almost took his life one month after her mother just went through a 16 hour operation. Two years of her son's recovery, and 4 years in and out of hospitals with her mom..still able to keep a job, grow in that job, put her son through college.....I could go on...and somehow still remains happy and prosperous. Sorry, probably should have stayed out of this one, but it makes me so mad...guys would like to define "strong women" as I've seen here. I'm not sure why strong women to men are women that want to change or control them.......pisses me off really. Obviously those men have never truely met a strong woman. You have described a truly strong woman, one worthy of the utmost respect and some lucky man's love. |
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I really like pickles. I think that makes me strong. Good Lord. What do you do with those pickles? I accept the pickles for who they are. I let them be and revel in their deliciousness. I am woman hear me roar in numbers too big to ignore. |
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Edited by
LewisW123
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Sun 10/04/09 10:33 AM
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amazing to me how fickle men are. if you are a strong woman, they run like rats from a sinking ship.  That is a ridiculous generalization and just doesn't have any merit to it.. men like a strong, independent woman. I DO like Ladylid. She's pretty strong and independent. (chrissy too) |
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I dig strong women....when a gal can bench press me or suplex me into the sack...that's Polish foreplay baby! When you are talking about being carreer minded or knowing what they want and really going for it...I back them up 100%....after all...I expect no less of my woman than I would expect of myself. Gotta be an equal partnership. My personal experience ........(this only applies to what I have dealt with so don't none of you birds get booty hurt when I say this) The problem occurs during those erratic mood swings....when I try to help and be supportive...(apparently there is a time to leave them the hell alone)...and the woman is frustrated and confused... "I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT!" Oh man! Heard that one more than once.....God forbid I make the mistake of pointing out the fact that...I wanna help but, I don't magically know what she needs to set things right when even she don't know what she wants/needs. Then it really hits the fan. So, I guess it really is a day to day thing. Us guys are pretty much set in our patterns from an early age. The ladies can switch gears without warning. So, try to cut us a bit of slack. You gals got it easy.....you know right off the bat what you are dealing with in a guy...good guy/a-hole....dependable/unreliable....honest/liar...abusive/gentle.....good lover/terrible lover....you can have us figured out in a month or two. The women I have been with have been like dating Cybil. Well, krupa, we don't always know right off the bat. And I've met my share of moody or indecisive men, men who want to be led by the nose, men who are fakers, good fakers, ones who think they know what they want and then flail at the first signs of work for a relationship, want just any woman, etc. We gals DON'T have it easy. |
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A 'strong' woman has the experience and sense to let a man be who he is, without trying to change him. She can also retain who she is at the same time....jmo Very well said. 
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I really like pickles. I think that makes me strong. Good Lord. What do you do with those pickles? I accept the pickles for who they are. I let them be and revel in their deliciousness. I am woman hear me roar in numbers too big to ignore. Hi ya (((Chrissy))) 
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A 'strong' woman has the experience and sense to let a man be who he is, without trying to change him. She can also retain who she is at the same time....jmo   I agree with that, but that implies, being a strong woman is somehow centered around a man...I don't agree with that. I've never met a man strong enough to stick around and accept who I am, accept that I could get along just fine without them because they have an overwhelming desire to be needed. I'll never allow myself to NEED a man for my happiness or survival. I'd much rather make a man feel wanted and not needed, but that seems to be a problem...One I'll never understand. Wow,Some strong wemon here! I think strong wemon don't need a man,but want a man.We are not here because we have no life! But bacause we want someone to share our life. 
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I really like pickles. I think that makes me strong. Good Lord. What do you do with those pickles? I accept the pickles for who they are. I let them be and revel in their deliciousness. I am woman hear me roar in numbers too big to ignore. Hi ya (((Chrissy))) Hi Ed Do you like pickles too?
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A 'strong' woman has the experience and sense to let a man be who he is, without trying to change him. She can also retain who she is at the same time....jmo I agree with that, but that implies, being a strong woman is somehow centered around a man...I don't agree with that. I've never met a man strong enough to stick around and accept who I am, accept that I could get along just fine without them because they have an overwhelming desire to be needed. I'll never allow myself to NEED a man for my happiness or survival. I'd much rather make a man feel wanted and not needed, but that seems to be a problem...One I'll never understand. Wow,Some strong weman here! I think strong weman don't need a man,but want a man.We are not here because we have no life! But bacause we want someone to share our life. |
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Well, krupa, we don't always know right off the bat. And I've met my share of moody or indecisive men, men who want to be led by the nose, men who are fakers, good fakers, ones who think they know what they want and then flail at the first signs of work for a relationship, want just any woman, etc. We gals DON'T have it easy. Oh I agree honey. There are flakes on both sides of the line. I know plenty of guys who I wouldn't wish on any woman. Just like I know plenty of women that are bad news from day one. I didn't mean to make such a broad generalization. (yet, my dumb-@$$ did.) Sorry about that. I was kind of wrapped up in personal flashbacks on that one. |
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I think that oftentimes the issues at heart are really issues of hurt and pain. Baggage is a tremendous deterrent to both males and females and unfortunately the baggage that we all carry from previous relationships does not always manifest until a new relationship is already fairly established oftentimes with a false front and people trying to create a new "good" impression. Baggage raises its ugly head and guilt , shame and deceit become the status quo, the relationship founders and hurt is compounded. Patterns of negative behaviour are repeated and sometimes strengths are perceived as control. Perhaps authenticity and genuineness are policies to be entered into rather than demonstrating great security, in terms of ones personality, and strength. We all need one another, none more so than those who enter into a dating site.
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Nothing wrong with strong women. I have issues with the ones who think "strong" means they can turn me into a domesticated farm animal, though. it's the strong ones who have no desire to change the man and are confident enough in their own individuality that she accepts the man as he is, and enjoys him for what he is capable of offering. |
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Nothing wrong with strong women. I have issues with the ones who think "strong" means they can turn me into a domesticated farm animal, though. it's the strong ones who have no desire to change the man and are confident enough in their own individuality that she accepts the man as he is, and enjoys him for what he is capable of offering.
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Ideally, yes. In real life? I've seen a glimpse of it, but for the most part, it's all about them trying to change me. i also stand by the belief that sometimes when you really love another person, you do things for them just because they want you to, whether you necessarily want to do it too. i'm not talking about changing core values and/or beliefs, but sometimes people are so rigid about not changing that they become unbendable, impenetrable, and unloveable. it truly is in giving that you shall receive and i'm not talking solely about tangible concepts. |
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Well stated.
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It's all about a woman's attitude. If they're giving off the attitude of, "I've done *such-and-such* for years, and I've done it all on my own, and I don't NEED any man to do anything for me," then any self-respecting man will recognize that attitude and say, "Fine, then. To hell with ya. You can do it all by yourself? By all means, go ahead and knock yourself out then, because I sure as hell don't need you, either."
And THAT'S why women like that remain single. |
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It's all about a woman's attitude. If they're giving off the attitude of, "I've done *such-and-such* for years, and I've done it all on my own, and I don't NEED any man to do anything for me," then any self-respecting man will recognize that attitude and say, "Fine, then. To hell with ya. You can do it all by yourself? By all means, go ahead and knock yourself out then, because I sure as hell don't need you, either." And THAT'S why women like that remain single. i agree. it's so difficult for a lot of people to admit they need someone else and, in the process, make themselves vulnerable, exposed, and open to being hurt. i believe that this needs to be done however in order to experience the full meaning of loving, and being loved. |
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Surely though men hold to the same attitude. Perhaps more bluntly than the women, mrmusic.
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