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Topic: Ghosts...no, seriously.
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Sat 10/17/09 08:50 AM
Edited by Shasta1 on Sat 10/17/09 08:50 AM
Have you ever encountered one?

About 25 years ago, I went to work early and was setting up, was the only one there. I felt someone put their finger on my shoulder, as if to get my attention and I turned around saying "what?".
There was no one there. To this day, I can still feel it.
Another time, I saw one floating as I sat and watched out a window late one night.
You?

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Sat 10/17/09 08:51 AM
Edited by HockeyChick on Sat 10/17/09 09:00 AM
oh yeah, been there, done that....in Iowa we have the Villisca Axe Murder house...visited 3 times...unexplained things....definitely

http://www.villiscaiowa.com/

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Sat 10/17/09 09:00 AM



I used to have one but after 3 consecutive days and nights of me walking around the house shirtless demanding the spirit make the walls bleed it finally went away. Another time I though I had one making a bunch of noise, but it turned out to be my neighbors gettin busy.

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Sat 10/17/09 09:02 AM




Seriously though, I see shadows crossing the road sometimes when I driving through the desert coming back from the lake or crossing the reservation, I think it's the energy of animals that have been hit crossing the road.

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Sat 10/17/09 09:08 AM
I have seen an heard a lot of crap in this house. I have heard walking when no one is here but me, heard it say "please rape me" my friend heard it say "death" an seen something coming down the stairs.. not sure what it was. I have felt something grab me, breath on me...ect

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Sat 10/17/09 09:11 AM
i actually think i got kicked out of my friends apartment about a month ago by his ghosts - havent been back since. i know that seems crazy but yea......

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Sat 10/17/09 09:21 AM
I do a full moom ritual and summon them to come...

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Sat 10/17/09 09:29 AM
I had an experience when I was married to my oldest girls dad, he jumped straight up out of bed & ran into the living room and I turned my head to the left & saw the black figure of a man sitting on a small stool that I had sitting near the bed. He was tall, had some kind of a hat similar to a top hat and had his hands in his lap and his feet crossed. You could tell by the shape of him. It was very scary, stayed up the rest of the night in the living room. It was an old house too. Have definately heard things over the years too.

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Sat 10/17/09 09:30 AM
what?! what does that even mean? how? why? - i dont mean to offend im just curious........

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Sat 10/17/09 10:39 AM
well i for did dine with the devil and all his angelic beings . and i can can say is , to me they are nothing and are only strong as my fears or or what lingers in my subconscious from past obscenities. some much floating around. I lsep in a house where i was told a young beautiful girl died and keeps walking around at nights. I was disappointed she did not show up , was no fun sleeping alone

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Sat 10/17/09 11:13 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Sat 10/17/09 11:14 AM
All senses are electrical impulses that are decoded by the brain. Its a representation of data, the brain is exceedingly good at taking data and coming to a conclusion regardless of accuracy.

Evolution has programed us to have a strong imagination, the need for an immediate response (fight or flight) to any potential danger has created a sensory system highly dependent on fitting together data like a jigsaw puzzle missing most of the pieces.

Its like looking at clouds, we all see shapes that are not really there, have you ever asked yourself why 99% of such sightings happen at night, or in the dark, or when you have just woke up, or just started to fall asleep?

Seriously take a strong and critical look at any experiences you have had, and realize that our consciousness is designed to paint a picture even when the data is extremely bad or even non existant.

Expectations meet flawed perception equal strange unexplainable experiences, couple that with the fact our consciousness literally erases and recreates experiences and hides data from our awareness and nothing extraordinary or paranormal is needed to explain any of these occurrences.


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Sat 10/17/09 12:39 PM

All senses are electrical impulses that are decoded by the brain. Its a representation of data, the brain is exceedingly good at taking data and coming to a conclusion regardless of accuracy.

Evolution has programed us to have a strong imagination, the need for an immediate response (fight or flight) to any potential danger has created a sensory system highly dependent on fitting together data like a jigsaw puzzle missing most of the pieces.

Its like looking at clouds, we all see shapes that are not really there, have you ever asked yourself why 99% of such sightings happen at night, or in the dark, or when you have just woke up, or just started to fall asleep?

Seriously take a strong and critical look at any experiences you have had, and realize that our consciousness is designed to paint a picture even when the data is extremely bad or even non existant.

Expectations meet flawed perception equal strange unexplainable experiences, couple that with the fact our consciousness literally erases and recreates experiences and hides data from our awareness and nothing extraordinary or paranormal is needed to explain any of these occurrences.






This has been the best bit of logic I've heard on this topic in awhile...the brain is capable of such amazing perception it is very easy for us to be limited in the understanding of its impulses.

take this, for example...if you mix the odrer of the ltertes in a wrod, the biran is sltil albe to raed waht slohud hvae been wtitren, pidorved the fsrit and lsat lteetr saty in the smae pcale.

Police Detectives will tell you that most eyewitness accounts are unreliable at best. People will disagree on the most major of details, including colors of shirts, styles of vehicle, etc. There is no way to explain the dark shapes and vivid imaginations we employ as we investigate bumps in the night. It is possible to feel or see something that really isn't there if our brain wants it to be there bad enough

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Sat 10/17/09 04:07 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 10/17/09 04:09 PM
I've never 'seen' a ghost that I know of. But I did have a conversation with my dead X-husband through a woman who is psychic.

She was a friend of mine who claimed to have 'visions' of things, and know things via her visions. It had always been a problem for her as she was from a catholic background. She wanted to know if I could 'cure' her of this affliction. (Of course I can't, and I don't know why she thought I could.)

I asked her if she could talk to my dead X-husband. (I was testing her.) She did not know if she could or not, she had never done anything like that before.

Well shortly after that, he showed up and spoke "through her." And I am convinced 'something' was going on there. It sure seemed to be him alright, as she had access to information only he and me knew about. It made a believer out of me. And it was quite freaky. She could not break contact with him as he would not 'go away' so she had to leave and go home. He stayed with her all the way and only left after she started working on one of her projects. She said he was a very strong energy. ... yes he was.. apparently both living and dead. laugh laugh laugh

I was actually worried about seeing her again, afraid he might come back from the dead through her again. He didn't.




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Sat 10/17/09 04:13 PM

Have you ever encountered one?

About 25 years ago, I went to work early and was setting up, was the only one there. I felt someone put their finger on my shoulder, as if to get my attention and I turned around saying "what?".
There was no one there. To this day, I can still feel it.
Another time, I saw one floating as I sat and watched out a window late one night.
You?



Yes. And, I didn't really care for it. It made me a bit dizzy and queasy. I don't try to summon or call such things anymore.

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Sat 10/17/09 04:38 PM
Your surmise is quite accurate for alot of things that go bump in the night.... but not totally. There are other demensions that others live in. Seances? well.. never been to one- but I know what I've seen. Skeptics abound- logic can explain anything for them. In the past before the 60's no one believed it possible to land on the moon. Or that there is life in outer space yet now we know there are other 'blue' planets. There is way too much to say it's all science and can be explained away.
What I can feel or have seen is not my brain discharging randomly.

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Sat 10/17/09 04:47 PM

All senses are electrical impulses that are decoded by the brain. Its a representation of data, the brain is exceedingly good at taking data and coming to a conclusion regardless of accuracy.


Are you certain it is the brain that is 'coming to a conclusion? If so, has this been proven, if so how does this happen and where in the brain does this happen?


Evolution has programed us to have a strong imagination, the need for an immediate response (fight or flight) to any potential danger has created a sensory system highly dependent on fitting together data like a jigsaw puzzle missing most of the pieces.

Its like looking at clouds, we all see shapes that are not really there, have you ever asked yourself why 99% of such sightings happen at night, or in the dark, or when you have just woke up, or just started to fall asleep?

Seriously take a strong and critical look at any experiences you have had, and realize that our consciousness is designed to paint a picture even when the data is extremely bad or even non existant.

Expectations meet flawed perception equal strange unexplainable experiences, couple that with the fact our consciousness literally erases and recreates experiences and hides data from our awareness and nothing extraordinary or paranormal is needed to explain any of these occurrences.


If the above is true, then we can not even be certain if we are correctly perceiving reality at all. Everything then, is simply subject to our own perceptions and we as individuals are the ones who actually define reality and decide what is 'real.'


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Sat 10/17/09 05:01 PM
I once thought I had a ghost blow down my neck... but then forgot I had my shirt tucked into my underwarelaugh

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Sat 10/17/09 06:48 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Sat 10/17/09 07:16 PM
All senses are electrical impulses that are decoded by the brain.
Ah Bushi my old friend and loyal opponent, you always seem to force me to take up the opposing banner. (Not my fault, it's just the electrical impulses decoded by my brain. :wink:)

I keep going back to the Remote Viewing phenomenon, since it's the easiest one to use as an example.

Now this is not to say that Remote Viewing doesn't involve electrical impulses in the brain, but if one considers that all senses are electrical impulses decoded in the brain, then one must conclude that Remote Viewing involves something more than the classic "five senses", since it is essentiall "non-local" in nature.

And it seems to me that since it is possible to perceive things through means other than the "classic" senses, then I see no reason to rule out the possibility of perceiving things than cannot be registered by those senses.

And as I said before, that doesn't mean that the interpretation has nothing to with electrical impulses in the brain. It only means that it is possible that the thing perceived was perceived through some means other than the classic senses.

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Sat 10/17/09 07:11 PM
In Toronto, Canada, it is illegal to dig a snake-pit in your own living room to catch the ghosts that keep pestering your wife for more sex.

In Albaquerque, Ohio, you can alway stop a ghost and ask for directions. They are employed as GPS navigators inside the instruments. (Don't believe the crap about the space ships and radio waves. Radio waves make BillyJean and Jelly Bean. And Hound Dog.)

In Dijubringsumbeer, Queensland, Australia, they employ ghosts to pull dogsleds. The dogs just sit on the sled, smoke, and drink beer. Occasionally burp or say "g'day".

The Chinese eat ghost meat, deep fried or wokked.

The French eat ghosts.

The Croats do slovenly things to the ghosts.

The Hungarians use ghosts in arguments such as whether Porsche is better than borsch, and whether Stravinski is worse than Wagner. They use the ghosts as counters, you know, marking the number of arguments won and lost for each player.

The original Monopoly game was supposed to use very small and differently-coloured ghosts that would walk around the board, according to what the dice throw would command them, without the players having to reach and move their paying tokens manually.

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Sat 10/17/09 07:13 PM
Edited by wux on Sat 10/17/09 07:22 PM

I do a full moom ritual and summon them to come...


Oyvey. I mooned my school principal in grade seven, too, and she came, too. She was a lonely, bitter, frustrated woman. A member of the communist party, so no self-respecting man would ask her for a date.

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