Jus wanted to know your thoughts on this ... i know There are other factors but i just cant shake the idea that its partially because americans over value themselves and want high paying easy jobs...
Ceo's rediculous pay scale is a big factor in my opinion also..

it seems everyone wants to blame one person like Obama or Bush.. when there are more factors than that.. did people really beleive we hired a magical president that was gonna wave a wand and fix this?

I feel like its more of a problem for those my age and younger .. it seems to me the work ethic of the older generations is more solid..

Even my generation believes they are worth more than they are. I have known unemployed people who were, by their own declaration, too good for a minimum wage job. So they went jobless for months, living off others, until a higher paying job came along. My son is one of these individuals and I do not know where he got that idea. I had applied and got hired at Taco Bell when I was unemployed but a better job came up before I started there but I would have worked it until a better job came. So by example I had shown him differently.


I don't know where a person who has no job can determine they are too good for any job. This concept is beyond my comprehension.

Good for you if i was jobless id be at ANY place of employment if i end up at mcdonalds while i continue my search thats at least SOMETHING coming in untill i can find something better.. i cant afford not to work my daughter needs me bringin money in if its not much well survivr but something must come in

Good for you if i was jobless id be at ANY place of employment if i end up at mcdonalds while i continue my search thats at least SOMETHING coming in untill i can find something better.. i cant afford not to work my daughter needs me bringin money in if its not much well survivr but something must come in

That is how I think anyway. But it seems some do not think that way.

It's a very legitemate question; and one I happen to agree with him on. A very major problem in todays workforce, is the young American (age 18-30) refusing to accept jobs tha are minimum wage or that they deem "beneath" them, or for the teenagers and not adults.

Another problem, I am sorry to say, is the fact that so many companies DO hire teenagers (I mean teens as in 16 and 17 while still in high school) more often than they do adults. I know I will get a lot of razz on this topic, but it is one I stand firm on. Teenagers still in highschool should not be working during the school year, unless they can show the need to provide support for themselves or their family. During summer vacation, they should be doing odd jobs like cutting the lawn, cleaning out garages, washing cars etc. if they want extra cash. If we can get back to where the adults are hired and working, then any leftover jobs by all means be picked up by a teen if they want it. But the ADULTS need to have first grab at ALL jobs. This includes fast food and party store/gas station jobs as well.

rather than quoting the various posts in this thread that I find ridiculous.. I'll just offer a generic response..

If you're an "adult" and you can't out compete an 17 year old... sorry but you suck.. and there should be no laws that protect you from being outplayed by a 7yr old in high school..

why should it be put to the government to have to force a 16/17 yr old to prove some form of hardship to be able to work a part time job.. give me a break..

if you're in your mid 30's and still haven't figured out how to make a living.. I'm sorry but you shouldn't expect too much symapthy from society.. down on your luck is one thing but an entire decade of being worthless.. you had all of your 20's to figure out something to do with your existence.. if all you can manage to do is change tires, then change tires... if you're 33 and you can't outcompete a 17 yr old.. sorry dude. it sucks to be you...

That is how I think anyway. But it seems some do not think that way.

Yes there are problems and I am sure that many Minglers have ideas on how to fix the problem. The question is does the Government even care and if so what are they going to do to fix the mentality of most Americans about the issues of work?


What do you say to a kid that didn't get a proper education, but still somehow passed to get a high school diploma? Then when it came to college he couldn't get any money or credit together to go.

I know what most people say. Oh well -- his or her fault.

That kind of mentality is what is destroying the American economy.

So what happens to this kid? Yes he either sells drugs, works at burger king, or joins the military to be blown up by a IED in Afghanistan. If he survives the mental abuse in the military he might be able to get a GI bill to study. That is if he isn't suffering from post dramatic depression or anything.

College shouldn't cost a arm and leg. Shouldn't all children have the opportunity to get a good education? Why do we still have districts in America handing out school worksheets from 1950s that doesn't provide any true education? Why are latin kids in Miami being passed to the next grade but cannot speak any English let alone do school projects at their grade level?

Why are there schools that are not A-credited anymore, such as in Indiana for example?

Education should be entitled to everyone with the same degree of technology and information so that every child will have a chance to succeed.

Europe has figured that out a long time ago. Look at their math, science, reading, and writing scores compared to this country. Come on America! Are you truly asking why the work force isn't working?

Look into your education system, the costs to attend colleges, and how the government made sure that education will fail until now.

Obama did offer 4 billion in grant money to try to improve in education. He only did it because his daughter was suffering from school grades at the time. Thank goodness he has children at such a young age right! Now we have to see if this 4 billion dollar investment will really work or is is just money floating around.... let us say back into the pockets of rich individuals.

I just hope for the countries sake that they will finally wake up and smell the coffee. If not then you shall see how America will continue to lose ground on educational results leading to a terrible workforce.

Yes, education needs an overhaul.

No, Europe doesnt have a better educational situation, the education in britain, for example, is pretty on course with America.

and be careful about assuming what peoples motives are,,,,how did you get information on the grades of Obamas children ( I would actually love to see that).

Well as a German I can tell you that much of Europe is much better off with their children on education. Perhaps the East block countries of Europe are still catching up, but I can assure you that a European will know more about American History then most Americans know about their own country or for that matter the European country the person comes from.

Also look at world statistics on reading, writing, science, and math to see what I am talking about. This is what got Obama's attention.

I watched a meeting on Obama on how he is dissappointed about the education in America. Americas math and science score averages rank way below alot of countries. The top 10 are usually owned by European and some Asian countries. He wants to fix that and gave a 4 billion dollar grant on education. Of course schools will have to apply for it.

He mentioned how one of his daughters received tests that had nothing to do with the subjects she was learning at the time in the classroom. So this test she wasn't prepared for resulted in bad grades.

In the end Obama checked into it and saw that much of the material needs to be updated. He also suggested on a mirade of other things to perhaps boost the education in America.

It is a problem. You have young adults from India that have a better grade average than most Americans who get special visas and work at a IT job for half the price an American wants after they get their degree.

What makes it worse is that American that got his degree is most likely in debt before even having his first actual job. Now tell me what is wrong with that picture?

In America liberal educators put too much emphasis on "accepting others" and not on U.S. and world history or 8x + 2 =5x -4 (X = -2). these are real problems with American education IMO.