so if around 80% of insured Americans are happy with what they have

how many uninsured Americans are there?


the Census Bureau's survey—which found about 15 percent of the U.S. population uninsured—is the largest and most regular survey, said Karyn Schwartz, a senior policy analyst at the nonprofit and nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation. And according to its findings, "The bulk of the uninsured are U.S. citizens, they're from working families, but they have low incomes and would likely have trouble affording private coverage," she said.

The latest Census Bureau survey was published in 2008, based on data gathered in 2007.

-US NEWS and WORLD REPORT

seems like it would be cheaper to just insure the 15% than to scrap the system and make a whole new one

And furthermore, good healthcare will never be achieved unless you make the system MORE EFFICIENT.

It's simple mathematics.

And you do have a point...

But...

You can't make it a right,, without drafting people into the field.

I stand on my answer until I read the poll questions.
8 out of 10 Americans do not have health insurance.
Give me a link. We all know the Insurance companies have fixed one poll already.

The military doesnt draft drs.

You may just get your wish/nightmare.
Hussein, Pelosi and Napolitano(DHS) are doing all they can to see the Illegals here, get to stay here and the ones who slip by, they welcome also.

Illegals are currently getting taxpayer provided health care, just not advertised.

Hussein, Pelosi and Napolitano(DHS), will continue to push for amnesty.

If you disagree with them, you just might be a terrorist.

I think i would be alot more accepting of a government option, if medicare didn't owe my hospital 40 million dollars.

Problem is insurance... I will agree there. The problem with the insurance is the fact that they pay for just about everything, but in order to function, they need to make a profit to pay their employees. That almost doubles the cost of healthcare.

Insurance is only meant for catastrophic events like cancer. This that would BREAK a person's bank account.

There is a Dr. Berry in Tennessee that owns his own practice. Only costs 35$ for a same day visit with him. He serves mostly lower/middle income families. BUT, he refuses any medicare or medicade, and greatly discourages the use of insurance for anything not over $1,000.

Add insurance payments, you have to pay the insurance employees, additional hospital employees for billing, and also, employees that work for a billing department that work for the insurance companies.

This would not change if this were run by the government.

The military doesn't have 300 million patients do they?

They aren't scrapping the whole system.
They are trying to make it affordable for all Americans.

The Insurance Companies profits are outrageous, and the coverage is miniscule.

I still hardly believe those numbers. I'll research more myself later.

They dont have the hospital system or drs that exist in the private and public sector either. Also, the whole defense budget is small compared to the National budget.

I do agree Fanta, something needs to be done with healthcare. It's slipping. I see staff cuts everyday, and people not getting the attention they need as a result. (I work in a hospital.)


At least we can agree on this.

If you want a fair comparison look towards Japan and Europe.

Socialized systems and better care than the US.

Actually the defense budget is about a third if i am not mistaken.

The number of docs in the private sector are shrinking, and i highly doubt you will find anyone willing to go to college for 12 years, and collect over $200,000 of debt, just to make $50,000 a year...

And yet the Republicans continue to vote as a block against it.
Why?
What possible motivation could exist?

Better according to who? I think you will find that one major comparison, is the fact that everyone's covered...

You see, i have a problem with this...

We DID have the best care in the world. Just like we did have the best schools.

Funny how we slipped into 12th place right after the department of education took over.

It would seem that our healthcare has been slowly slipping as well... But this is the result of too much staff needing to get paid...(And i don't mean hospital staff.)

I would not have a problem covering all those with preexisting conditions. But i do have a problem with an inefficient system being used because it's "free" to some.

Oh im sure it's mostly to block the democrats.

And largely in part of insurance lobbyists.

But some, do see the dangers and setbacks of this system, that would be harder to repair than the system we currently have.

They tried to fix the current system already, it didn't work.

Like i said....we need to start cutting through red tape. Insurance is only to be used to catastropic events.

Medicare needs to pay it's freakin bill...

This would all make everything muchmore affordable...

I also think you would find that when health insurance costs $25 a month, and a doctor visit only costs $35, that our healthcare will improve, and most that are uncovered would be covered.

If that were to happen, then i would see no problem is a government program to pay for those with preexisting conditions...

You said it before.
Efficiency.

Right now the medical schools are operated on an elitist basis. They are expensive and designed to be self exclusive.
Medical degrees are like pedigrees. Father to son to son, etc.
Many things could be done to eliminate the cost of medical school and the participation.