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Do you believe in UFOs? Why or why not? If you do, what do you think they are?
I must admit, I've been fascinated by them ever since I saw one back when I lived in Oregon. I don't really know what they are but I tend to believe they're secret military aircraft & not invaders from outer space. So here's my story. If any of you have one, feel free to share as well. My ex-wife (girlfriend at the time), step-brother, and older brother were all in the back of my Mother and Step-Father's pickup truck. I don't remember exactly why we were out that night but my parents were taking us back to our house and were almost there. One of us saw lights in the night's sky & had my parents stop the truck. We all got out and watched these strange lights for about five minutes. All of us seen it. It was a v-shaped craft with lights along the sides of the v shape. It was definitely not planes flying in formation. The lights were large and it looked as though it was flying fairly close to the ground and did not make a sound as it slowly moved across the sky above us. It was huge! The tall pine trees eventually blocked our view of it as it moved away and we drove home. I was pretty rattled about seeing this thing but my girlfriend wanted to go back outside & watch the sky again so we did. There were more planes in the sky that night than I'd ever seen before. One plane flew directly over us and was low enough to the ground we could see it. That kinda freaked me out. I thought that whatever it is we saw, that somebody may not have wanted us to see it. We went back inside the house & I've never seen anything like what I saw that night since. Call me crazy but I know what I saw & everyone else who was there that night still remembers it. This happened in LaPine which is a small town out in the sticks in central Oregon. I think it was back in '99 when I was seventeen. I did some google image searching to see if I could find a picture of what it looked like. This is the best I could come up with. It looked pretty similar to this picture  Ever seen anything strange while stargazing? I see a lot of shooting stars but that's about it. As long as they don't bust out the anal probes, I'd like to see one again & will continue looking up. |
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I don't really know what they are but I tend to believe they're secret military aircraft & not invaders from outer space. That would be my first guess as well. I've see a few ufos in my lifetime as well. The only thing is that they are only 'unidentified' to me. And since I have extremely limited resources to be able to check on the identity of flying objects the mere fact that they are unidentified to me, truly doesn't mean much, even to me. About the only way I would be impressed by a 'ufo' would be if I actually met the inhabitants of the vehicle. Either by them landing, or beaming down, or taking me aboard their ship. Other than that it could be just about anything. One time I saw a 'ufo' and I was even with some other people who saw it. It was wild and did some truly unbelievable arobatic stunts that, I as a physicist, knew would be physically impossible, assuming that this ufo was a large craft flying far away. It appeared to cover large areas of the sky at speeds that would easily be incredible and far faster than any technology I could imagine. However, as embarrassing as this sounds it turned out to be a lightning bug that wasn't truly that far from us.  Now before you think I'm crazy, let me tell you that this lightning bug was truly strange. First off, it was a loner, which is strange already. There were no other lightning bugs around. Secondly, it didn't flash off and on the way normal lightning bugs flash. It had a truly strange light that behaved in a way that I would never have imagined could be an insect. Perhaps some kind of mutated lightening bug? I can't say because we never caught it. I made the discovery that it was indeed a lightning bug when it flew in front of the moon and I could see it's wings and shape against the light of the moon, and then suddently realized that it must only be a few feet from me rather than thousands of feet up in the sky. That instantly explained it's ability to cross large areas of sky in a very short time. And yes, I'm pretty sure we were drinking that night too.  |
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Well, none of us were under the influence at the time and all saw the same thing. Unless fireflies can fly in a perfect v formation, I'm still fairly certain what I saw was a UFO. All the planes we saw that night after we saw the UFO makes me think that the government were somehow behind this. Anyone else have any thoughts on the matter?
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No, I've never personally seen anything strange. But, too many people have for me to doubt that it happens. I would like to see something, but not anything that would put me in danger.
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Edited by
HawaiiMusikMan
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Thu 11/26/09 07:13 PM
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No, I've never personally seen anything strange. But, too many people have for me to doubt that it happens. I would like to see something, but not anything that would put me in danger. Yea, a lot of people have seen strange phenomenon in the skies. Many have even seen a similar craft to the one I saw. I know something's going on away from the public eye, but don't know exactly what it is. |
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MirrorMirror and JB know a lot about this stuff. There's another thread in here somewhere with some good links.
Other beings have been here for probably longer than we have and I think they come and go in spacecraft. |
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MirrorMirror and JB know a lot about this stuff. There's another thread in here somewhere with some good links. Other beings have been here for probably longer than we have and I think they come and go in spacecraft. 
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UFO- unidentified flying object. Are there flying things in the sky that are unidentified...well sure. That is not in question. The question is are they alien in origin?
Well I believe that the evidence is to great to ignore. Both the governments of the united kingdom and france have released their UFO files and both governments confirm that there are flying craft that function and maneuver in a ways that they cannot understand. If you acknowledge the existence of craft of unknown origin and you try to conclude their origin only a small number of plausible possibilities exist. 1. The craft are produced and operated by aliens from another planet that are far superior to us technologically. 2. The craft are created by humans in secret who have far superior physics and technology than exists to the rest of the world. 3. The craft were created by humans in the future and have traveled back in time. 4. The craft are spiritual manifestations of a deity or angel, whose purpose of existence is unknown. and that about sums it up. Personally I believe the most logical explanation is that they are of alien origin, but I am far to skeptical to believe fully without seeing one for myself. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 11/26/09 07:52 PM
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I had the privilege of accompanying a woman who was a UFO buff who had been following and investigating cattle mutilations. She had heard of one particular rancher who had quite a few happen to his cows. He had said that every time he reported one, the military at Fort Carson would come out to "investigate" and all they would do was remove the carcass and he would never hear from them again.
Anyway, he did not report this one and I got to see it. It was very strange. They were covering them up, and the newspapers were told not to publish any accounts of cattle mutilations. Remember all the publicity the mutilated horse Snippy got? Well, that horse was just the beginning. A buffalo in the Colorado Springs Zoo was mutilated and that was hard to keep quiet. But it was soon forgotten and no follow up stories were allowed in the news papers. From the very beginning I felt that alien space craft was responsible for these mutilations, not the military, and not vandals or pranksters. It was apparently the military's job to just cover this stuff up, because that is all they did. I read from sources on the Internet that was a deal that was made with these aliens. I know first hand that they (someone) threatened a small farming newspaper who was still publishing accounts of mutilations after the two larger news papers had been silenced. At first he refused, but the threats became very serious towards his family and business, so he stopped publishing them. This is serious stuff going on in and around Colorado Springs. Home of Norad, Fort Carson, Peterson Air force base. The last time I saw strange lights in the sky was about three years ago coming from Denver to Springfield on a dark and lonely back highway. I was with a friend. We had a load of canvases in the back of my pick-up truck. There were two lights that just appeared suddenly in the sky in front of us. They were very large and close. (Like headlights, but in the sky above and in front of us.) They seemed like two spotlights shining on us. Then they just went off. It was like they just turned the spot lights off. There were no other lights anywhere. We were in the middle of a dark stretch of prairie where no houses existed. I did not hear any sound like from a plane or helicopter. I asked my friend if she had seen those strange lights. She said yes. I jokingly told her to check her watch for the time so we can see if we end up with "missing time" in case we were abducted. We weren't. What do I think they are? Aliens. Where are they coming from? Most of them come from here. Underground bases, and from under the ocean and they will come from large lakes. They come through vortexes from another dimension. Stop expecting them to come from "outerspace." They are here. |
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If people would be aware the massive amount of military experiments, they would have their jaws drop to the ground.
It includes some really nasty things as well as murder. Here is my theory about UFOs, everybody has one: They are either military experiments or something we don't know what, not even the military. if military: 1. Experiments. The type of experiments they were already running 60-70 years ago is scary and amazing enough, let alont 70 years later. Why don't the military shows these "advanced" stuff? Because they are experiments. There is nothing to show yet..they only show anything if needed, and currently fighting Middle-Eastern men herding goats around, pilotless drones and regular combat soldiers are scary enough an no need for unstable and experimental stuff to be shown around. USA learned its lesson, when various technology and nuclear secrets were (and are) stolen and the Pentagon hacked. Nuclear technology is really outdated on the other hand and it's kinda like a decoy when you hear about spying and stolen technology. If they would really worry about it..they would kick up the dust much higher than they did. Nuclear testings were amazing back in the first time they used it, so was the V2 rockets used by Hitler against England were out of science fiction books - amazing. If something else. -let's say extraterrestial beings Ok...one thing for sure, they couldn't give a rat's-a$$ about us, or see us like a bunch of under developed apes. Surveillance only, like us, sending a space probe to Mars. The amazing acceleration and impressive flight characteristics tells me they are not manned, more like robotic probes collecting samples and looking for life and minerals and surveying the planet and the Solar system then move on. The reason we don't make "contact" because there is nothing to be make contact with..and the probes are sent from so far away, that perhaps they still haven't got any news from us by these probes. Perhaps they are communicating but due to us only built as hunter gatherers (smell,sight,hearing,feeling,touching) we are unable to communicate with them.... think of us, being a goldfish in an aquarium and seeing the rest of the world outside as a fuzzy weird looking world with shadows moving around and we can't make contact with those shadow figures. Here is another. We are labrats. Just a big experiment and in a controlled experiment you want the least interference as possible. Seeing us UFOS is just something that wasn't by intention but perhaps a few "boo-boos" and they wish we never saw them. They do make mistakes so they are just like humans..if not shape but similar brain structure. |
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MirrorMirror and JB know a lot about this stuff. There's another thread in here somewhere with some good links. Other beings have been here for probably longer than we have and I think they come and go in spacecraft. So what do you think Mirror? |
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MirrorMirror and JB know a lot about this stuff. There's another thread in here somewhere with some good links. Other beings have been here for probably longer than we have and I think they come and go in spacecraft. So what do you think Mirror?  I tend to keep an open mind
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oh yes. ufos do exist. my guess is that everyday people see flying objects that they cannot IDENTIFY. but just because these craft are UNIDENTIFIED, does not even begin to suggest that they are from somewhere other than this planet folks.
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I never go anywhere with out my tinfoil hat, so they don't see me and I don't see them.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 11/27/09 10:52 AM
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I have read a lot about them and where they are often seen. I have talked to people who have been abducted, and people who have made aliens a life-long project and occupation. For these people, the question is not "Do they exist?" The question is "Are they on our side?" Are they here to help us or control us or eat us for lunch?
There are two sides to this story. I did some research or people who do research. I wrote an article under my pen name Jackie Hunt. Personally, I avoid them at all costs. I don't go searching for them. I moved away from Colorado Springs... too much weird stuff going on there. Yes, I wrote this: Do extraterrestrials exist? By Jackie Tracer Hunt For some people the argument is still, "do extraterrestrial aliens exist?" But that argument stays in the company of people who really do not want to know. They just simply say "No of course not." But there are a lot of educated people who say that they do exist, and many who know they do exist, and there are a few who even talk about it openly. For them, the question of whether or not aliens exist is ridiculous. Of course they do. Their entire lives and occupations involve aliens, UFO's abductees etc. Forget the question of whether UFO'S and Aliens are here among us. The big argument going on in the UFO/alien community is whether they are benign or malevolent. Or simply: Are the aliens trying to uplift mankind or are they out to take control of the world so that they can make slaves of us and eat us in public without fear of an uprising of human resistance. UFO researchers Doctor Richard Boylan Ph.D., LLC and Doctor Michael E. Salla, Ph.D have argued about who is spreading disinformation and who is not in a high-toned indignant "I'm-a-better researcher than you" discussion on Internet forums and their posts appeared in clubs around the Internet UFO communtiy. I am a curious sort; so I spent the evening reading this stuff and trying to figure out who these so-called experts are in the scheme of things, and what roll they play in, what I refer to as, "The End Game." I will give you my 'quick and dirty' assessment of these two people at the end of the article, but here is what they publish about themselves on their web sites: "Dr. Richard J. Boylan is a Ph.D. behavioral scientist,anthropologist, university associate professor (emeritus), certified clinical hypnotherapist, consultant, researcher and author. He provides hypnotherapy for recalling full details of partially-remembered close encounters with the Star Visitors, and for exploring previous life experiences stored in subconscious memory. Information about Dr. Richard J. Boylan and his projects can be found at http://www.drboylan.com/ " (Jackie) ~~In short, Boylan claims that the Aliens are benevolent, and he believes they are an advanced civilization from the stars,and that most humans are "less evolved" and that the aliens or the "watchers" as he calls them, are here to protect us. He believes there is order, fairness and law in what he calls the "Inter-galactic Federation. He is or claims to be an experiencer (or abductee, however you want to call it.) who has had alien encounters himself, and he works with Alien-human hybrid children in a program he calls "Star Kids." Here is a quote from his website: "We humans are not the "bad guys", but we have some less-evolved persons in our midst. That is the way it is in the universe as well, we are told. However, the difference is that the less-evolved cultures on other planets are not permitted by the Inter-Galactic Federation to roam the galaxy freely and cause havoc on vulnerable planetary populations, such as us." (Jackie) ~~Now here is the Information on Salla'a website about him: (I did not not write this stuff, I am just bringing it to your attention. My assessment will be at the bottom of this article. "Dr. Michael Salla holds a current position as a 'researcher in Residence,' Center for Global Peace, American University Washinton D.C. and was previously an Assistant Professor 1996 -2001) in the International Peace and Conflict Resolution Division, School of International Service, American University. He recently completed his fourth book, The Hero's Journey Toward a Second American Century, and has had over 70 articles, books reviews, and opinion pieces published on topics covering peacebuilding, nonviolence and conflict resolution. For more information go to his site, http://www.american.edu/salla/home-PA.htm The Peace Ambassador Program is a seven day summer program that combines study, meditative practices, and prayer ceremonies at American University and selected Washington DC sites aimed at promoting individual self-empowerment and enlightened national governance in Washington DC. The program provides an opportunity for participants to experience personal spiritual growth through preparing for and integrating higher dimensional energies, while simultaneously helping transform the world's center of political and military power in order to usher in an era of global peace and divine governance on planet Earth. The Program is situated within the Center for Global Peace, American University. Participants will discover the hidden spiritual potential in the configuration of the Washington DC grid system, the significance of key political symbols such as Congress, the White House, the Washington monument, Lincoln Memorial; the hidden function of the greater Washington beltway, and preparing for how to best respond to the influx of higher dimensional energies that have a great potential for transforming life on our planet. At the end of the program, participants will become Peace Ambassadors for creating individual and global peace, and activating enlightened national/divine governance around the planet. (Jackie) ~~Okay that is the end of my quotes from their web sites. Now for the fun part. My assessment: Dr. Richard Boylan is what some call a "White Lighter." He loves and worships aliens. He sees only (or mostly) good and benevolent Aliens. He boasts of his behavioral scientist education and pushes it to the limit. Telling Salla that he lacks the academic background to conduct valid "behavioral science" research into "Star Visitor" contacts with "experiencers" which he says is the core of what constitutes information about the "Star Nations." My assessment of Dr. Michael Salla is what I will call a pawn of the "Powers that be" who hide behind the guise of promoting peace but actually are furthering the agenda of a New World Order with a One World Government controlled by, "them," whoever "they" are. ( I might add that I once read a quote attributed to Henry Kissinger to this effect: "You have a right to be paranoid, because there is a "they" and "they" are out to get us.") Salla said that in his Study Paper #7 he argued that policy makers became very aware of these diverse extraterrestrial races and decided to respond using a strategic doctrine known as "power politics" or real politik as championed by Dr. Henry Kissinger and his supporters in the secret national security system set up to respond to the extraterrestrial presence. ( Jackie ~"Secret National security system?" What might that be, the CIA? The NSA? The black Ops? The men in black? The "Above Top Secret" guys we don't even have any initials for?) Richard Broylan countered by pointing out that Kissinger is an indicted international war criminal, and he hinted that that statement pretty much settles what side Salla is working for. Dr. Salla gives credit to Dr. Kissinger as being the "master strategist" for managing the extraterrestrial presence and who was the special focus in his study paper. To which Dr. Broylan responded (in a post on his club): " Now your true political sentiments surface. Your International war criminal friend Herr Kissinger was the "master strategist" who created the VietNam War debacle that mired the U.S. in its longest war, with the greatest GI deaths, and the only war the U.S. lost. We don't need fascists designing the official engagement policy of human society with the Star Visitors." My assessment (from a non-academic non-scientific, non-abductee standpoint:) Jackie ~~ Okay, now let me tell you why I think Dr. Salla is a pawn of the New World Order crowd, Here is a quote of Henry Kissinger : "Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderbergers meeting. Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting. Note he said "a threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated" so even if the public is just fooled into believing that we are being attacked by Alien beings from some other planet, they will gladly hand over all of their freedoms and individual rights for the guarantee of safety and the New World Order would step into power. Now personally I do not believe that these non-human intelligent life forms (aliens) are more "spiritually evolved" than we humans. They certainly have the technology, but they don't have compassion, love or wisdom. (I am speaking of the preditorial reptilian aliens here, I don't want to insult any of you good aliens out there who might be really nice guys and gals who don't eat human flesh and drink blood.) For Salla, you can translate "Global peace" into "One World Government" and you can translate "Divine governance" into "One World Religion" with perhaps a dictator (alien) who is considered to be a God, ruling over the earth. (To be fair, they really do want "peace." Its why they want it and how they go about getting it that is wrong.) But the battle between these two researchers is strictly an ego thing for now. They have no real conflict because they are on the same side and don't even realize it. Salla is clearly promoting a One World Government which will, he claims, ultimately be ruled by a (non-human or Alien) leader who will be worshiped as a God, ("Divine governance") and Broylan is promoting love (and worship) of these so-called advanced alien beings who "are here to protect us." As for Doctor Broylan, well, he's just been sleeping with the enemy too long. Abducted, implanted and programmed to do public relations to convince humans that the aliens are only here to help us. To be fair, some of them might be. But Dr. Broylan really wants you to believe that they all are. He even makes excuses for the nasty stories he hears about bad aliens and blames it on government mind control and propaganda. Salla, on the other hand, probably realizes that there are some bad-*** aliens out there in control and he just wants to make peace with them because he knows he can't beat them in a fight. ("There is a THEY and THEY are out to get us.") I can easily visualize the day when these two men will come together in their support of a One World Government ruled by a (god-like) non-human/alien. They will be at a seminar smiling and shaking hands with each other for a photo-op while pledging their lives to their new alien god. So are there any such things as extraterrestrials or aliens from Orion? I really don't know by personal experience. But I suspect that not everyone you meet on the street is as human as they look. I believe there are many non-human intelligent life forms on this planet. I know people (more than you would suspect) who swear that they were abducted. I met a man in Lamar just a few months ago who claimed to be a "repeater" (an abductee taken more than once, and put back.) He described many different kinds of aliens that he had seen and some horrible things that they had done to him. Yet he was still so confused that he denied that they had "abducted" him. I asked him, "When they took you, did you have a choice in the matter?" He said no. I told him, "That means that you were abducted against your will. They are not your friends." He asked me, "Who told you that?" I said, "They abducted you against your will. They are not your friends." For some reason he had difficulty understanding the reasoning in that. If they were friendly aliens, would they be going around abducting and doing painfull experiments on humans without their consent? Everytime I told him, "They are not your friends." (and I told him that at least five times) he asked me, "Who told you that?" It was quite strange if you ask me. It gave me the willies. Dr. Boylan calls himself and others who have been abducted "experiencers." I wonder if they had a choice in the matter. Even today our modern medicine has a drug that will remove several hours of your memory. That is a scary thing. If we have it I am sure they have it too. How do you know what happened to you if you have had that drug? My conclusion: We are not alone. We may not even be at the top of the food chain. Jackie Tracer Hunt http://www.springfieldcolorado.com/aliens.html |
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Edited by
Ruth34611
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Fri 11/27/09 12:37 PM
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Great article, JB!
 And, really awesome website! |
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We are not even on the food chain. We are less than a speck of dust in the cosmic stew.
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Great article, JB! And, really awesome website!  I agree
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Edited by
jrbogie
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Sat 11/28/09 05:18 AM
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well i suppose i have actually seen men wearing black suits. so if there are "men in black" then somebody must be paying them to do something so it stands to reason that that something is keeping track of the many ailiens here on earth, eighteen hundred in manhatten alone if i recall tommy lee jones' line in the movie. i can only know what i experience myself and watching jones and will smith in action was quite the entertaining experience so as i've actually seen real men wearing real black suits and somebody wrote a screenplay and even spent money making a movie this must prove to me that ailiens are............................. ah crap, nevermind.
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If you ever really saw one of the men in black I doubt if you would forget it. From what I hear, they are very creepy, almost non-human themselves.
Nothing like will smith. |
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