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Edited by
ZPicante
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Look, that is cool if that is how you feel...personally, sex is rather useless to me. I don't care how you feel I should think, I simply don't care for sex. Perhaps you can give that little speech when you accept your Darwin Award. You've certainly earned it, hahaha. ;D JK, man. That's just odd. |
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I don't get you people...six pages going back and forth whether or not sex is a desire or force. Here, to some it is a desire; to others it is a force. Some people place entirely too much necessity on such stupid things as hair color, breast/penis size, even skin color...is it that far fetched to think that maybe, just possibly, some of these same people also require sex? Personally I find sex to be useless more often than not, unless you are reproducing there isn't really anything that sex gives you that other means can't also accomplish (yes, masturbation). Both give you the same end result unless you are trying to have children. Sex, a physical interaction, is neither a force nor a desire; it is driven by forces and desires. Period. No one is impressed by your cynicism and the apparent, subsequent inability to maintain a meaningful relationship that that nihilistic approach to life produces. Good thing you're content with your narcissistic self-love affair; 'cause I doubt you will have any other options with that outlook, sweet cakes.  My girlfriend says you're wrong, she is just fine with my point of view. |
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F-and-L: Personally I find sex to be useless more often than not, unless you are reproducing there isn't really anything that sex gives you that other means can't also accomplish (yes, masturbation). Both give you the same end result. I find your respone most surprising -- comming from a young man! Ususally, that is a faminine point of view. But I've never heard a guy saying the same... All I can say is LUCKY YOU! (if you can service yourself and never miss the closeness, the passion, the unity, the extazy which can be experienced ONLY when you cum simultaneously with your partner, etc. etc. etc.) But don't worry, the time will come and you will see the light!!! Look, the same end result occurs...I orgasm. What else is there aside from romance novelish type results? Fairy tales only happen in movies.  Sex is a means of expressing caring and affection; it is a means of developing awareness of and sensitivity to your partner and their body, as well as your own. Sex is a form of communication, and some very important forms of non-verbal understanding can be shared during sex. Sex can be a means of mindfulness practice. None of this has anything to do with movie fairy tale romances, nor orgasm. Look, that is cool if that is how you feel...personally, sex is rather useless to me. I don't care how you feel I should think, I simply don't care for sex. Nowhere am I trying to tell you how you should think. If you prefer, read my words as "sex can be" rather than "sex is". If you are not interested in these other potentials that sex offers, thats up to you. All of these things that sex offers can be found through other means, such as non-sexual physical affection. |
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Edited by
ZPicante
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Mon 01/18/10 10:55 PM
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I don't get you people...six pages going back and forth whether or not sex is a desire or force. Here, to some it is a desire; to others it is a force. Some people place entirely too much necessity on such stupid things as hair color, breast/penis size, even skin color...is it that far fetched to think that maybe, just possibly, some of these same people also require sex? Personally I find sex to be useless more often than not, unless you are reproducing there isn't really anything that sex gives you that other means can't also accomplish (yes, masturbation). Both give you the same end result unless you are trying to have children. Sex, a physical interaction, is neither a force nor a desire; it is driven by forces and desires. Period. No one is impressed by your cynicism and the apparent, subsequent inability to maintain a meaningful relationship that that nihilistic approach to life produces. Good thing you're content with your narcissistic self-love affair; 'cause I doubt you will have any other options with that outlook, sweet cakes. My girlfriend says you're wrong, she is just fine with my point of view. What is the point of having a relationship with someone, then, if I may ask? How can a romantic--well, let's try heterosexual--relationship be so darn pragmatic? You might as well be brother and sister. There must be *some* physical element, I should think.... |
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I don't get you people...six pages going back and forth whether or not sex is a desire or force. Here, to some it is a desire; to others it is a force. Some people place entirely too much necessity on such stupid things as hair color, breast/penis size, even skin color...is it that far fetched to think that maybe, just possibly, some of these same people also require sex? Personally I find sex to be useless more often than not, unless you are reproducing there isn't really anything that sex gives you that other means can't also accomplish (yes, masturbation). Both give you the same end result unless you are trying to have children. Sex, a physical interaction, is neither a force nor a desire; it is driven by forces and desires. Period. No one is impressed by your cynicism and the apparent, subsequent inability to maintain a meaningful relationship that that nihilistic approach to life produces. Good thing you're content with your narcissistic self-love affair; 'cause I doubt you will have any other options with that outlook, sweet cakes. My girlfriend says you're wrong, she is just fine with my point of view. What is the point of having a relationship with someone, then, if I may ask? How can a romantic--well, let's try heterosexual--relationship be so darn pragmatic? You might as well be brother and sister. There must be *some* physical element, I should think.... Quite simply, it is not based on sex. |
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I don't get you people...six pages going back and forth whether or not sex is a desire or force. Here, to some it is a desire; to others it is a force. Some people place entirely too much necessity on such stupid things as hair color, breast/penis size, even skin color...is it that far fetched to think that maybe, just possibly, some of these same people also require sex? Personally I find sex to be useless more often than not, unless you are reproducing there isn't really anything that sex gives you that other means can't also accomplish (yes, masturbation). Both give you the same end result unless you are trying to have children. Sex, a physical interaction, is neither a force nor a desire; it is driven by forces and desires. Period. No one is impressed by your cynicism and the apparent, subsequent inability to maintain a meaningful relationship that that nihilistic approach to life produces. Good thing you're content with your narcissistic self-love affair; 'cause I doubt you will have any other options with that outlook, sweet cakes. My girlfriend says you're wrong, she is just fine with my point of view. What is the point of having a relationship with someone, then, if I may ask? How can a romantic--well, let's try heterosexual--relationship be so darn pragmatic? You might as well be brother and sister. There must be *some* physical element, I should think.... Quite simply, it is not based on sex. |
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I don't get you people...six pages going back and forth whether or not sex is a desire or force. Here, to some it is a desire; to others it is a force. Some people place entirely too much necessity on such stupid things as hair color, breast/penis size, even skin color...is it that far fetched to think that maybe, just possibly, some of these same people also require sex? Personally I find sex to be useless more often than not, unless you are reproducing there isn't really anything that sex gives you that other means can't also accomplish (yes, masturbation). Both give you the same end result unless you are trying to have children. Sex, a physical interaction, is neither a force nor a desire; it is driven by forces and desires. Period. No one is impressed by your cynicism and the apparent, subsequent inability to maintain a meaningful relationship that that nihilistic approach to life produces. Good thing you're content with your narcissistic self-love affair; 'cause I doubt you will have any other options with that outlook, sweet cakes. My girlfriend says you're wrong, she is just fine with my point of view. What is the point of having a relationship with someone, then, if I may ask? How can a romantic--well, let's try heterosexual--relationship be so darn pragmatic? You might as well be brother and sister. There must be *some* physical element, I should think.... Quite simply, it is not based on sex. See, now you're putting things into the discussion...foreplay is rather physical I would think. |
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Mon 01/18/10 11:12 PM
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Foreplay is not an integral part of sex? Foreplay is not to include some, if not most of, the things that massage and Z already mentioned?
 Now I'm confused. What IS sex again? Only penile penetration and that kind of sexual intercourse? |
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Foreplay is not an integral part of sex? Foreplay is not to include some, if not most of, the things that massage and Z already mentioned? Now I'm confused. What IS sex again? Only penis penetration and that kind of sexual intercourse? Main Entry: 1sex Pronunciation: \ˈseks\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Latin sexus Date: 14th century 1 : either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures 2 : the sum of the structural, functional, and behavioral characteristics of organisms that are involved in reproduction marked by the union of gametes and that distinguish males and females 3 a : sexually motivated phenomena or behavior b : sexual intercourse 4 : genitalia |
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Main Entry: fore·play
Pronunciation: \-ˌplā\ Function: noun Date: 1929 1 : erotic stimulation preceding sexual intercourse 2 : action or behavior that precedes an event |
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Ah, I see...
Not for me! It is great that one does not build a relationship based upon sexual intercourse, and sexual intercourse alone. Kudos for that! 
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Edited by
ZPicante
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Mon 01/18/10 11:25 PM
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I don't get you people...six pages going back and forth whether or not sex is a desire or force. Here, to some it is a desire; to others it is a force. Some people place entirely too much necessity on such stupid things as hair color, breast/penis size, even skin color...is it that far fetched to think that maybe, just possibly, some of these same people also require sex? Personally I find sex to be useless more often than not, unless you are reproducing there isn't really anything that sex gives you that other means can't also accomplish (yes, masturbation). Both give you the same end result unless you are trying to have children. Sex, a physical interaction, is neither a force nor a desire; it is driven by forces and desires. Period. No one is impressed by your cynicism and the apparent, subsequent inability to maintain a meaningful relationship that that nihilistic approach to life produces. Good thing you're content with your narcissistic self-love affair; 'cause I doubt you will have any other options with that outlook, sweet cakes. My girlfriend says you're wrong, she is just fine with my point of view. What is the point of having a relationship with someone, then, if I may ask? How can a romantic--well, let's try heterosexual--relationship be so darn pragmatic? You might as well be brother and sister. There must be *some* physical element, I should think.... Quite simply, it is not based on sex. See, now you're putting things into the discussion...foreplay is rather physical I would think. You're trying to paint sex as only a means to reproduce. I would think that most people, including myself, would disagree with that postulation 100%. Why? Because if sex were meant solely for producing progeny, then why does it involve two individuals at all? Why aren't ALL FORMS of reproduction asexual? By the very fact that human reproduction (for example), by necessity, includes two people demonstrates some significance to a mutual involvement in that activity. Moreover, why is it pleasurable? Certainly, the pleasure gleaned from the experience might serve as a way to subsist a species, but, at the same time, seems superfluous in that some other, less satisfactory drive could provoke the activity. In short, there is no purpose or advantage to "self-pleasuring" oneself; not reproductive, not to attain a fraction of the pleasure mutual intercourse offers. It seems completely misogynistic and relentlessly arrogant to only desire that form of pleasure, frankly. Honestly, why even both with foreplay, following that logic? You might as well reproduce (pun intended) that stimulus, as well, on your own. Wouldn't that, too, be superior without some extraneous partner involved? |
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I don't get you people...six pages going back and forth whether or not sex is a desire or force. Here, to some it is a desire; to others it is a force. Some people place entirely too much necessity on such stupid things as hair color, breast/penis size, even skin color...is it that far fetched to think that maybe, just possibly, some of these same people also require sex? Personally I find sex to be useless more often than not, unless you are reproducing there isn't really anything that sex gives you that other means can't also accomplish (yes, masturbation). Both give you the same end result unless you are trying to have children. Sex, a physical interaction, is neither a force nor a desire; it is driven by forces and desires. Period. No one is impressed by your cynicism and the apparent, subsequent inability to maintain a meaningful relationship that that nihilistic approach to life produces. Good thing you're content with your narcissistic self-love affair; 'cause I doubt you will have any other options with that outlook, sweet cakes. My girlfriend says you're wrong, she is just fine with my point of view. What is the point of having a relationship with someone, then, if I may ask? How can a romantic--well, let's try heterosexual--relationship be so darn pragmatic? You might as well be brother and sister. There must be *some* physical element, I should think.... Quite simply, it is not based on sex. See, now you're putting things into the discussion...foreplay is rather physical I would think. You're trying to paint sex as only a means to reproduce. I would think that most people, including myself, would disagree with that postulation 100%. Why? Because if sex were meant solely for producing progeny, then why does it involve two individuals at all? Why aren't ALL FORMS of reproduction asexual? By the very fact that human reproduction (for example), by necessity, includes two people demonstrates some significance to a mutual involvement in that activity. Moreover, why is it pleasurable? Certainly, the pleasure gleaned from the experience might serve as a way to subsist a species, but, at the same time, seems superfluous in that some other, less satisfactory drive could provoke the activity. In short, there is no purpose or advantage to "self-pleasuring" oneself; not reproductive, not to attain a fraction of the pleasure mutual intercourse offers. It seems completely misogynistic and relentlessly arrogant to only desire that form of pleasure, frankly. I don't agree, simple as that. Cheers for your view, mine is mine for a reason. |
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Edited by
ZPicante
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Mon 01/18/10 11:35 PM
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I don't agree, simple as that. Cheers for your view, mine is mine for a reason. Riiiiiiiiight. Why say anything at all, then, only to indefensibly dismiss anyone who disagrees? So pointless, commenting at all. At least I'm able to defend my view. |
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I don't see what the big deal is, some people like sex, some don't. Some people think they need sex, some don't. You can have a loving, mutually fulfilling relationship and not have sex. Ever heard of Clean Teens? They've pledged themselves to God, and they have relationships- romantic relationships- with no sex. Ever heard of traditional Christians? They don't believe in premarital sex. They have romantic relationships.
I'm not in either of these groups, I just used them as an example, so hopefully you will get a clue. I don't think sex is "necessary" to prove you love each other. You can prove that in many ways without ever touching someone, let alone without sexual intercourse. Besides, maybe that's why so many relationships fall to **** after a while, the sex became tedious and not "earth-shattering" or whatever, so it's over. Try having a meaningful conversation and see how much longer it lasts. |
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Quite simply, it is not based on sex. So? You're not really boyfriend and girlfriend if there is not *something* physical--not necessarily sex--about a relationship. It doesn't have to be based on sex, but there should be some sexual attraction involved; otherwise, you are friends--platonic (read: non-sexual) friends, by definition. Quite simply. I have had non-sexual relationships. We were affectionate, we held hands, we snuggled, and neither of us did any of that with anyone else. IMHO, the real meaning and expression of love doesn't require sex, at all. |
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Quite simply, it is not based on sex. So? You're not really boyfriend and girlfriend if there is not *something* physical--not necessarily sex--about a relationship. It doesn't have to be based on sex, but there should be some sexual attraction involved; otherwise, you are friends--platonic (read: non-sexual) friends, by definition. Quite simply. I have had non-sexual relationships. We were affectionate, we held hands, we snuggled, and neither of us did any of that with anyone else. IMHO, the real meaning and expression of love doesn't require sex, at all. Exactly!!!!!!
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I don't agree, simple as that. Cheers for your view, mine is mine for a reason. Riiiiiiiiight. Why say anything at all, then, only to indefensibly dismiss anyone who disagrees? So pointless, commenting at all. At least I'm able to defend my view. There is nothing to defend, I have my view and you have your view. Simple as that, they are different, a lot of things in this world are. Only difference is that I accept that your view is different and you attack my view. |
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Edited by
massagetrade
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Mon 01/18/10 11:55 PM
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I think we all agree more than it appears we do.
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I think we all agree more than it appears we do. Perhaps, but I am catching a lot of hostile vibes due to my view. I have nothing against anyone else's view, it just seems that my views being as they are not with the popular majority are knocked around more. |
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