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| Topic: Do we expect a lower standard from women? | |
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(Before you jump on me for generalizing let me just say yes, I am. For the sake of discussion I'd like to talk about the two groups collectively rather than individually. I am fully aware that there are exceptions to this notion)
Do you ever notice that when you look at popular youtubers the guys are almost always funnier than the girls, and that girls generally depend on showing boobs and being beautiful for hits? Do you ever notice that it's easier for beautiful women to be "famous for nothing" while men, even attractive men, almost always have to be skilled in some area such as acting, music, wit etc in order to earn fame? Do you think Sarah Palin would be considered as qualified to be John McCain's running mate if she were a man? I guess what I'm getting at is, as a society, do people expect less from women? If so, isn't this to the detriment of the female sex? Are women in the media generally stupider and less talented than the men? |
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Boobs always do it for me.
Would you lower you standards a little to get hits? 
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About Sarah Palin, she was not qualified to be VP. She was McCain's big mistake. So, no, a man who was just like her would not have been qualified either.
You ask if women in media are stupider and less talented than men. Do you have examples (other than Palin) that support this? I'm curious to see who you think fits that. |
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I believe a lot of the older actors are more talented than the younger generation today. Meryl Streep is one of the best actors (male or female) in Hollywood. I don't know if she's flashed boobs or ***. I couldn't name one younger celeb that even comes close to her.
In this day and age, anybody can be famous. If you want your 15 minutes, sign up for a reality show or just act the fool or make a sex tape and it's instant infamy for a brief period of time. Just because someone is famous, doesn't mean they have talent. Men act the fool just as much as women, but I do think women are judged more harshly. I won't give my biased opinion on Sarah Palin cause I don't think it should be a political topic. But I will say, there are more men in politics acting foolish than women. Countless affairs...but they seem to be forgiven and forgotten rather quickly. So I guess in a way, I agree with you OP. Just my 2 cents. |
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About Sarah Palin, she was not qualified to be VP. She was McCain's big mistake. So, no, a man who was just like her would not have been qualified either. You ask if women in media are stupider and less talented than men. Do you have examples (other than Palin) that support this? I'm curious to see who you think fits that. I think i mentioned the "famous for nothing" folks. Who are rarely ever men. Tila Tequila, Paris Hilton, the Kardashian sisters for example. |
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(Before you jump on me for generalizing let me just say yes, I am. For the sake of discussion I'd like to talk about the two groups collectively rather than individually. I am fully aware that there are exceptions to this notion) Do you ever notice that when you look at popular youtubers the guys are almost always funnier than the girls, and that girls generally depend on showing boobs and being beautiful for hits? Do you ever notice that it's easier for beautiful women to be "famous for nothing" while men, even attractive men, almost always have to be skilled in some area such as acting, music, wit etc in order to earn fame? Do you think Sarah Palin would be considered as qualified to be John McCain's running mate if she were a man? I guess what I'm getting at is, as a society, do people expect less from women? If so, isn't this to the detriment of the female sex? Are women in the media generally stupider and less talented than the men? Jasmine, don't get your panties all in a Bunch... I just thought your Thread needed Bumping... |
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lol thanks optrigon for trying
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I guess I would have to ask who you are asking this question to --men or women.
I think women hold women to a higher standard. It is not women who make other women famous just because they are beautiful. To be honest a woman could walk around me topless all day and I'm not going to do any more for her than I would if she was in a winter parka. Sarah Palin was brought in to get the woman's vote and we see how well women fell for that one. Men are not famous for just being good looking because although women appreciate the attractive guy we want more. So if you are looking for the answer it's JMO that men are the ones who will make someone famous or do that extra favor just because a woman is attractive or half dressed. |
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(Before you jump on me for generalizing let me just say yes, I am. For the sake of discussion I'd like to talk about the two groups collectively rather than individually. I am fully aware that there are exceptions to this notion) Do you ever notice that when you look at popular youtubers the guys are almost always funnier than the girls, and that girls generally depend on showing boobs and being beautiful for hits? Do you ever notice that it's easier for beautiful women to be "famous for nothing" while men, even attractive men, almost always have to be skilled in some area such as acting, music, wit etc in order to earn fame? Do you think Sarah Palin would be considered as qualified to be John McCain's running mate if she were a man? I guess what I'm getting at is, as a society, do people expect less from women? If so, isn't this to the detriment of the female sex? Are women in the media generally stupider and less talented than the men? It's all media hype, the media decides what we should read, and see. If we choose not to pay attention they change. ie movies. Notice some years are violence, some sex? Now they're trying to pull us in by 'family & fun' movies to get people to show up. If you think this is bad, look back 30-40 years. In -some- ways we are getting better. |
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About Sarah Palin, she was not qualified to be VP. She was McCain's big mistake. So, no, a man who was just like her would not have been qualified either. You ask if women in media are stupider and less talented than men. Do you have examples (other than Palin) that support this? I'm curious to see who you think fits that. I think i mentioned the "famous for nothing" folks. Who are rarely ever men. Tila Tequila, Paris Hilton, the Kardashian sisters for example. Look at the Jersey Shore crew. So no, it isn't just women who are stupid and less talented. |
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I guess I would have to ask who you are asking this question to --men or women. I think women hold women to a higher standard. It is not women who make other women famous just because they are beautiful. To be honest a woman could walk around me topless all day and I'm not going to do any more for her than I would if she was in a winter parka. Sarah Palin was brought in to get the woman's vote and we see how well women fell for that one. Men are not famous for just being good looking because although women appreciate the attractive guy we want more. So if you are looking for the answer it's JMO that men are the ones who will make someone famous or do that extra favor just because a woman is attractive or half dressed. But men only make up half of the population. Do you think it's men who buy gossip magazines and frequent online gossip sites about paris hilton etc? If only men are interested in the female pseudo celebrities, why aren't they reported on soley in men's magazines? |
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Edited by
JasmineInglewood
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Fri 01/08/10 11:00 AM
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(Before you jump on me for generalizing let me just say yes, I am. For the sake of discussion I'd like to talk about the two groups collectively rather than individually. I am fully aware that there are exceptions to this notion) Do you ever notice that when you look at popular youtubers the guys are almost always funnier than the girls, and that girls generally depend on showing boobs and being beautiful for hits? Do you ever notice that it's easier for beautiful women to be "famous for nothing" while men, even attractive men, almost always have to be skilled in some area such as acting, music, wit etc in order to earn fame? Do you think Sarah Palin would be considered as qualified to be John McCain's running mate if she were a man? I guess what I'm getting at is, as a society, do people expect less from women? If so, isn't this to the detriment of the female sex? Are women in the media generally stupider and less talented than the men? It's all media hype, the media decides what we should read, and see. If we choose not to pay attention they change. ie movies. Notice some years are violence, some sex? Now they're trying to pull us in by 'family & fun' movies to get people to show up. If you think this is bad, look back 30-40 years. In -some- ways we are getting better. I think it's common for every generation as they age to think that the younger generation is less talented and less smart than theirs was. Also, being arrested has nothing to do with talent/intelligence. Even if that were the case, there are just as many female celebrities getting arrested for things like DUI's. |
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About Sarah Palin, she was not qualified to be VP. She was McCain's big mistake. So, no, a man who was just like her would not have been qualified either. You ask if women in media are stupider and less talented than men. Do you have examples (other than Palin) that support this? I'm curious to see who you think fits that. I think i mentioned the "famous for nothing" folks. Who are rarely ever men. Tila Tequila, Paris Hilton, the Kardashian sisters for example. Look at the Jersey Shore crew. So no, it isn't just women who are stupid and less talented. I've never heard of the Jersey Shore crew.... are they as famous as the other female pseudo celebs I mentioned? |
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I think I know where you're going with this. It sounds bad, but in this day and age women just have to be pretty, that's it. They don't have to be smart, they don't necessarily have to have talent, they just have to be hot with a nice figure and big boobs.
Guys need to have good jobs or be famous or make lots of money, but they don't necessarily need to look good. (There are a lot of well off ugly guys with hot girlfriends / wives / etc). That's one reason why they have sugar daddy dating sites where the guys have to have proof of income verified and the girls just send in a sexy photo. It's just the way society is influencing everyone now, especially kids. They grow up seeing this constantly and just accept it as the way things are. |
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I think it IS a sad truth that women's "achievements" get a lot less airtime than the brainless bimbo bombshells.
I also think it's a sad statement on some men finding that attractive and some women getting a thrill from another woman's trainwreck. |
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Edited by
Aries151
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Fri 01/08/10 11:06 AM
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About Sarah Palin, she was not qualified to be VP. She was McCain's big mistake. So, no, a man who was just like her would not have been qualified either. You ask if women in media are stupider and less talented than men. Do you have examples (other than Palin) that support this? I'm curious to see who you think fits that. I think i mentioned the "famous for nothing" folks. Who are rarely ever men. Tila Tequila, Paris Hilton, the Kardashian sisters for example. Look at the Jersey Shore crew. So no, it isn't just women who are stupid and less talented. Those shows don't count, they specifically look for stupid people to be on those types of shows. I think the OP was talking more in general. *more specifically, they didn't become famous for being themselves like Paris Hilton, they became famous for being on a show which is why you referred to them as "The Jersey Shore crew". |
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I have noticed that a rated "R" movie can have a fully naked woman in it. But it needs to be rated X to see a naked man.
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You only want to see a man in cinema to see his winkytink? That's sexist and I'm offended. 
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About Sarah Palin, she was not qualified to be VP. She was McCain's big mistake. So, no, a man who was just like her would not have been qualified either. You ask if women in media are stupider and less talented than men. Do you have examples (other than Palin) that support this? I'm curious to see who you think fits that. I think i mentioned the "famous for nothing" folks. Who are rarely ever men. Tila Tequila, Paris Hilton, the Kardashian sisters for example. Look at the Jersey Shore crew. So no, it isn't just women who are stupid and less talented. Those shows don't count, they specifically look for stupid people to be on those types of shows. I think the OP was talking more in general. *more specifically, they didn't become famous for being themselves like Paris Hilton, they became famous for being on a show which is why you referred to them as "The Jersey Shore crew". Well, she was asking about women in media. Jersey Shore has been all over the media these days. |
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I know there were some words surrounding "Boobs" but I'm not sure what was said
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