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Topic: Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia grou
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Tue 03/30/10 02:47 PM



ITS ALL BS THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING ILLEGAL . just a nother bunch of guys playing soldier ..
How do you know?


Cause the gubmint is evil?

CAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT AND IS WELL KNOWN FOR FRAMEING PEOPLE FOR CRIMES THAT NEVER HAPPENED . NOW GO BACK TO YOUR DESK COMMISSAR ....


Luther's 'protest', intended to 'free' some people from the 'rule' of the ruling, and so-judged abusive Catholic church.

The 1776 revolution of independence was intended to free a new emerging United States from the abusive powers of a joint Anglican Church and King abusive governance.

Today, we are witnessing the 'genie out of the bottle', where the 'protestant paper pope' mentality, which no longer has a 'church' or 'king' to 'protest' against, is delusionally turning against itself through a paranoïd mentality and anarchic treatment of the 'WE THE PEOPLE GOVERNANCE' !!!

The 'religious right',
- part of the GOP that condones the religious right,
- a variety of hype and demagoguery driven media, and
- the likes of 'tea party' and 'christian fundamentalist' fanatics,

... are now confusingly hyper driving and exacerbating the 'paper pope against nation' mentality.

Other empires have imploded for a lot less in recent history.


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Tue 03/30/10 09:27 PM

Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.

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Wed 03/31/10 06:14 AM
Edited by voileazur on Wed 03/31/10 06:20 AM


Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


That is not correct. Pure bad faith and demagoguery.

This President has had the courage to do what 20+ Presidents have failed to carry out in the past century. HE NOT ONLY LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE, HE LISTENED SELFLESSLY, realizing the backlash he would have to suffer from the ideological camps.

He listened and delivered for the 'forgotten' people. He didn't listen and cater to the 'bigots' and 'racists'. He stood for those whom are left out!!!

As for the unrest, I suggest it is directly related to the point I raised in my previous post: 'the old protestant paper pope against Nation governance' mentality.

When a handful of delusional fanatics figure that they are legitimate, and that their ideological and confused 'paper pope like' agenda, fueled by media clowns, is above the rule of law, it is time for voices of reason to kick in and decisively turn the demagoguery tap off!!!

... not fuel it on further, as you have done with the comment in your above post.


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Wed 03/31/10 07:12 AM


Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


All through Obamas campaign for president, he talked a lot about healthcare. And look what he did FOR the people that voted for him. He gave it to them. THAT IS what America wanted, obviously. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean the rest of America doesn't.

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Wed 03/31/10 09:32 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Wed 03/31/10 09:33 AM



Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


That is not correct. Pure bad faith and demagoguery.

This President has had the courage to do what 20+ Presidents have failed to carry out in the past century. HE NOT ONLY LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE, HE LISTENED SELFLESSLY, realizing the backlash he would have to suffer from the ideological camps.

He listened and delivered for the 'forgotten' people. He didn't listen and cater to the 'bigots' and 'racists'. He stood for those whom are left out!!!

As for the unrest, I suggest it is directly related to the point I raised in my previous post: 'the old protestant paper pope against Nation governance' mentality.

When a handful of delusional fanatics figure that they are legitimate, and that their ideological and confused 'paper pope like' agenda, fueled by media clowns, is above the rule of law, it is time for voices of reason to kick in and decisively turn the demagoguery tap off!!!

... not fuel it on further, as you have done with the comment in your above post.




Tyranny comes in many forms.

Referencing the Catholic Church in Martin Luther's time or the Revolution as a basis of comparison to the modern outrage of intrusive, over reaching government is hardly accurate.

I find it interesting that religion is always at the top of someones list as being wholly responsible for all the ill's of the world. Billions of people are members of one faith or another and you are going to be hard pressed in eradicating religious beliefs.

Religious suppression or outright eradication is a fascist mentality.


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Wed 03/31/10 02:34 PM




Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


That is not correct. Pure bad faith and demagoguery.

This President has had the courage to do what 20+ Presidents have failed to carry out in the past century. HE NOT ONLY LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE, HE LISTENED SELFLESSLY, realizing the backlash he would have to suffer from the ideological camps.

He listened and delivered for the 'forgotten' people. He didn't listen and cater to the 'bigots' and 'racists'. He stood for those whom are left out!!!

As for the unrest, I suggest it is directly related to the point I raised in my previous post: 'the old protestant paper pope against Nation governance' mentality.

When a handful of delusional fanatics figure that they are legitimate, and that their ideological and confused 'paper pope like' agenda, fueled by media clowns, is above the rule of law, it is time for voices of reason to kick in and decisively turn the demagoguery tap off!!!

... not fuel it on further, as you have done with the comment in your above post.




Tyranny comes in many forms.

Referencing the Catholic Church in Martin Luther's time or the Revolution as a basis of comparison to the modern outrage of intrusive, over reaching government is hardly accurate.

I find it interesting that religion is always at the top of someones list as being wholly responsible for all the ill's of the world. Billions of people are members of one faith or another and you are going to be hard pressed in eradicating religious beliefs.

Religious suppression or outright eradication is a fascist mentality.





If you refer to addressing factions of fanatics, fundamentalists, radicals and ideological one track zealots as a form of 'RELIGIOUS SUPPRESSION OR OUTRIGHT ERADICATION' and accusing me of '... FASCIST MENTALITY', I suggest you need a serious 'RE-GROUP' or 'RELOAD', depending on the side to which you owe your loyalty.

You have so grossly mistranslated and misinterpreted my point, one would think it can only be an intentional act of juvenile 'spin', and a most dishonest one at that.

... or maybe you just didn't understand the jist of it!!!

Tyranny!!! Good one!!!

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Wed 03/31/10 05:50 PM
Edited by cashu on Wed 03/31/10 05:54 PM
there way of growing balls is to kill a lot of people who can't protect there selfs from the government .and then sit back and let there lackys spin the facts . those guys did no illegal things out in the woods . crying fire to people who know there is no fire is not a crime . they were the only people there except for the sit up guy working for the government .

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Wed 03/31/10 05:52 PM



Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


All through Obamas campaign for president, he talked a lot about healthcare. And look what he did FOR the people that voted for him. He gave it to them. THAT IS what America wanted, obviously. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean the rest of America doesn't.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Wed 03/31/10 05:54 PM
Obama was voted in on healthcare and ending the illegal Iraqi war. He is still in his timeline for ending the war and he is right on point with the healthcare reform.

The healthcare reform is not all it should be but it is a starting point and that is a lot.

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Wed 03/31/10 05:55 PM


Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


wishful thinking, me thinks.

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Wed 03/31/10 06:42 PM


Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


Those who don't like what the Democrats are doing are using that as an excuse to do the things you mentioned. It's just an excuse to behave in a way that's not acceptable.

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Wed 03/31/10 07:02 PM





Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


That is not correct. Pure bad faith and demagoguery.

This President has had the courage to do what 20+ Presidents have failed to carry out in the past century. HE NOT ONLY LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE, HE LISTENED SELFLESSLY, realizing the backlash he would have to suffer from the ideological camps.

He listened and delivered for the 'forgotten' people. He didn't listen and cater to the 'bigots' and 'racists'. He stood for those whom are left out!!!

As for the unrest, I suggest it is directly related to the point I raised in my previous post: 'the old protestant paper pope against Nation governance' mentality.

When a handful of delusional fanatics figure that they are legitimate, and that their ideological and confused 'paper pope like' agenda, fueled by media clowns, is above the rule of law, it is time for voices of reason to kick in and decisively turn the demagoguery tap off!!!

... not fuel it on further, as you have done with the comment in your above post.




Tyranny comes in many forms.

Referencing the Catholic Church in Martin Luther's time or the Revolution as a basis of comparison to the modern outrage of intrusive, over reaching government is hardly accurate.

I find it interesting that religion is always at the top of someones list as being wholly responsible for all the ill's of the world. Billions of people are members of one faith or another and you are going to be hard pressed in eradicating religious beliefs.

Religious suppression or outright eradication is a fascist mentality.





If you refer to addressing factions of fanatics, fundamentalists, radicals and ideological one track zealots as a form of 'RELIGIOUS SUPPRESSION OR OUTRIGHT ERADICATION' and accusing me of '... FASCIST MENTALITY', I suggest you need a serious 'RE-GROUP' or 'RELOAD', depending on the side to which you owe your loyalty.

You have so grossly mistranslated and misinterpreted my point, one would think it can only be an intentional act of juvenile 'spin', and a most dishonest one at that.

... or maybe you just didn't understand the jist of it!!!

Tyranny!!! Good one!!!


Your body of work speaks for itself...

There is no mistranslation or misinterpretation.


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Wed 03/31/10 07:13 PM






Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


That is not correct. Pure bad faith and demagoguery.

This President has had the courage to do what 20+ Presidents have failed to carry out in the past century. HE NOT ONLY LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE, HE LISTENED SELFLESSLY, realizing the backlash he would have to suffer from the ideological camps.

He listened and delivered for the 'forgotten' people. He didn't listen and cater to the 'bigots' and 'racists'. He stood for those whom are left out!!!

As for the unrest, I suggest it is directly related to the point I raised in my previous post: 'the old protestant paper pope against Nation governance' mentality.

When a handful of delusional fanatics figure that they are legitimate, and that their ideological and confused 'paper pope like' agenda, fueled by media clowns, is above the rule of law, it is time for voices of reason to kick in and decisively turn the demagoguery tap off!!!

... not fuel it on further, as you have done with the comment in your above post.




Tyranny comes in many forms.

Referencing the Catholic Church in Martin Luther's time or the Revolution as a basis of comparison to the modern outrage of intrusive, over reaching government is hardly accurate.

I find it interesting that religion is always at the top of someones list as being wholly responsible for all the ill's of the world. Billions of people are members of one faith or another and you are going to be hard pressed in eradicating religious beliefs.

Religious suppression or outright eradication is a fascist mentality.





If you refer to addressing factions of fanatics, fundamentalists, radicals and ideological one track zealots as a form of 'RELIGIOUS SUPPRESSION OR OUTRIGHT ERADICATION' and accusing me of '... FASCIST MENTALITY', I suggest you need a serious 'RE-GROUP' or 'RELOAD', depending on the side to which you owe your loyalty.

You have so grossly mistranslated and misinterpreted my point, one would think it can only be an intentional act of juvenile 'spin', and a most dishonest one at that.

... or maybe you just didn't understand the jist of it!!!

Tyranny!!! Good one!!!


Your body of work speaks for itself...

There is no mistranslation or misinterpretation.




Juvenile 'spin' it is!

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Wed 03/31/10 08:12 PM



Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


All through Obamas campaign for president, he talked a lot about healthcare. And look what he did FOR the people that voted for him. He gave it to them. THAT IS what America wanted, obviously. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean the rest of America doesn't.


I'm not saying health care isn't what people wanted, this bill isn't what people wanted and the elections in 2009 Proved that.

Obama also talked about transperency which he hasn't shown any, and don't even get me started on the recess appointments to backdoor the Senate and Congress.

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Wed 03/31/10 08:13 PM

there way of growing balls is to kill a lot of people who can't protect there selfs from the government .and then sit back and let there lackys spin the facts . those guys did no illegal things out in the woods . crying fire to people who know there is no fire is not a crime . they were the only people there except for the sit up guy working for the government .


Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime as well as plotting to over throw the Government.

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Wed 03/31/10 08:15 PM

Obama was voted in on healthcare and ending the illegal Iraqi war. He is still in his timeline for ending the war and he is right on point with the healthcare reform.

The healthcare reform is not all it should be but it is a starting point and that is a lot.


Ummm no, he was voted in on change and transperancy (and because people thought it would be neat to have an African American President).......... He has accomplished neither.

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Wed 03/31/10 10:46 PM


Obama was voted in on healthcare and ending the illegal Iraqi war. He is still in his timeline for ending the war and he is right on point with the healthcare reform.

The healthcare reform is not all it should be but it is a starting point and that is a lot.


Ummm no, he was voted in on change and transperancy (and because people thought it would be neat to have an African American President).......... He has accomplished neither.


many people voted, and Im sure not all for the same reasons. Many did vote because of healthcare and OBama delivered what he said he would. Others voted on transparency, and though OBAma has been transparent in some areas he has failed in others. Others voted on Change,, and Id say a president who is diplomatic and intelligent is quite a change from what we had...

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Thu 04/01/10 04:16 AM


Obama was voted in on healthcare and ending the illegal Iraqi war. He is still in his timeline for ending the war and he is right on point with the healthcare reform.

The healthcare reform is not all it should be but it is a starting point and that is a lot.


Ummm no, he was voted in on change and transperancy (and because people thought it would be neat to have an African American President).......... He has accomplished neither.


I didn't know you was a mind reader...seems you know why every single person voted for Obama and not the fossil. Interesting. You should have your own late nite cable show.

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Thu 04/01/10 04:17 AM
why aren't christians like these people being taken to GTMO? if these same people were brown and prayed five times a day in arabic, they'd be in Cuba right now.

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Fri 04/02/10 05:46 PM
Edited by cashu on Fri 04/02/10 05:56 PM


Considering the good the Dems are doing FINALLY I wouldn't count on a great over turn in November anyway.

The Dems are finally showing some balls. And even the unaffiliated like me have to admire their effort.


Yea they're doing a great job, completely ignoring the will of the American people. That is why we are having shootings at offices, gas lines being cut, offices vandalized, possible Anthrax letters (again), spitting, mass protesting etc. Never have I seen it get this bad.

Dems are going to get spanked in November PERIOD.


everything you say that has happened as signs of anger are things a bunch of girlly boys would do . shooting at an empty buliding , breaking a gas line with out an timer , vandalizeing an office , wow the really put the old fear out there , fake anthrax letters I almost sh it there , wow you guys sure fight a tough war .
In the mean time they just got another 20,000,000 bucks for the home team . get serious or shut up .
THERE releaeing 6 of the 7 christain soldiers .. wow I thing someone ratted out them for the frame job .... aw politics don't you just despise them .

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